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Wiki for Mileage/XP Runs
Indicate below your itinerary, availability dates, price and XP. Please only log runs with confirmed fares availability. Feel free to tag yourself if you want to meet fellow FTers.
Eg:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-MXP in J, 2021-01-01/02, 570 €, 180 XP
HEL-AMS-LAX-AMS-HEL in J, 2022-08-16/18, 1059 €, 204 XP (@XXXFlyer arriving at 11:50 AM, leaving at 06:00 AM)
Upcoming runs:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK in J on 2022/07/21-22, 380€ - 45XP (8,44€/XP) : one way
Past runs:
For future reference, log below your most interesting XP runs:
KRK-AMS-CDG-BCN-AMS-CDG-KRK, 2021-07-22/24, 576 €, 180 XP
ATH-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-ATH in J, 2021-09-18/19, 561€
KRK-AMS-CDG-LIS-CDG-AMS-KRK, 2021-07-22/28, 492 € 180 XP
NTE-CDG-AMS-LIS-CDG-LYS-NTE, 2021-09-25/26, 157 €/42XP
Indicate below your itinerary, availability dates, price and XP. Please only log runs with confirmed fares availability. Feel free to tag yourself if you want to meet fellow FTers.
Eg:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-MXP in J, 2021-01-01/02, 570 €, 180 XP
HEL-AMS-LAX-AMS-HEL in J, 2022-08-16/18, 1059 €, 204 XP (@XXXFlyer arriving at 11:50 AM, leaving at 06:00 AM)
Upcoming runs:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK in J on 2022/07/21-22, 380€ - 45XP (8,44€/XP) : one way
Past runs:
For future reference, log below your most interesting XP runs:
KRK-AMS-CDG-BCN-AMS-CDG-KRK, 2021-07-22/24, 576 €, 180 XP
ATH-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-ATH in J, 2021-09-18/19, 561€
KRK-AMS-CDG-LIS-CDG-AMS-KRK, 2021-07-22/28, 492 € 180 XP
NTE-CDG-AMS-LIS-CDG-LYS-NTE, 2021-09-25/26, 157 €/42XP
Mileage runs for Flying Blue - best routes?
Jul 19, 2018, 6:38 am
#226
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NUE
Programs: *G (TK elite+), OW sapphire (QR), ST elite plus (AF). LA black
Posts: 3,684
BTW, Alitaila CAI-NRT is also a quite cheap route in business class. And the mileage output is even higher with 200% miles for business class on AZ.
or Alitalia LON-ICN in premium eco. LON-FCO will be in business - 150% mileage on AZ premium economy (plus cheap opportunities to upgrade into biz)
or Alitalia LON-ICN in premium eco. LON-FCO will be in business - 150% mileage on AZ premium economy (plus cheap opportunities to upgrade into biz)
Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 am
#227
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: 🇸🇬 🇭🇰 🇫🇷
Programs: Many
Posts: 4,749
Shouldn't you get 104XP for that routing? - 24XP MXP-JED, 30XP JED-CGK, 30XP CGK-JED, 24XP JED-MXP
And the mileage should be for a platinum:
MXP-JED - 2382 flown miles x 1,5 (biz bonus) = 3573 + elite bonus 2382 = 5955 miles
JED-CGK - 4955 flown miles x 1,5 (biz bonus) = 7493 + elite bonus 4955 = 12448 miles
CGK-JED - 4955 flown miles x 1,5 (biz bonus) = 7493 + elite bonus 4955 = 12448 miles
JED-MXP - 2382 flown miles x 1,5 (biz bonus) = 3573 + elite bonus 2382 = 5955 miles
Total = 36806 miles.
And the mileage should be for a platinum:
MXP-JED - 2382 flown miles x 1,5 (biz bonus) = 3573 + elite bonus 2382 = 5955 miles
JED-CGK - 4955 flown miles x 1,5 (biz bonus) = 7493 + elite bonus 4955 = 12448 miles
CGK-JED - 4955 flown miles x 1,5 (biz bonus) = 7493 + elite bonus 4955 = 12448 miles
JED-MXP - 2382 flown miles x 1,5 (biz bonus) = 3573 + elite bonus 2382 = 5955 miles
Total = 36806 miles.
Sep 16, 2018, 3:43 pm
#228
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Montreux CH
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M FTL, BA Blue
Posts: 11,623
I'm trying to work out a strategy for the rest of the year, because if all goes well I will be 8XP short of Platinum by mid October. I don't want to hit Platinum too quickly, but ideally by the end of the year, as my Gold status goes up to the end of the year. I think with the antics I got up to earlier this year (30 segments for Gold before the end of March) that would mean that my requalification year would normally start on 1st of January. I figure if I cross the 300XP threshold sometime in December, following advice received here on this forum, my requalification year will still start on 1st January.
So what I would be looking for is a business class run on Alitalia, somewhere in Europe, or any other carrier that offers the most reasonable price possible in business. I could do the outbound before the end of the year, and the inbound sometime in January. Starting point is not too much of a worry, although I spend much of my time in Germany and Switzerland, and I recall reading that there were some good fares out of Germany (to MAD for example, but I couldn't find any evidence of them). Are there any updates on the good European business fares front?
Obviously, I don't need a business fare in reality (any trip to DUS on AF or KL with a transfer in CDG or AMS would yield the 8XPs necessary in the form of 10XPs), but a cheap business run would give me a head start on keeping Platinum next year, as the XPs will be carried over. Oh, and I haven't written about my adventures in Jeju, South Korea, yet ... which is all part of my Plat run (although I was very much there for work!!).
So what I would be looking for is a business class run on Alitalia, somewhere in Europe, or any other carrier that offers the most reasonable price possible in business. I could do the outbound before the end of the year, and the inbound sometime in January. Starting point is not too much of a worry, although I spend much of my time in Germany and Switzerland, and I recall reading that there were some good fares out of Germany (to MAD for example, but I couldn't find any evidence of them). Are there any updates on the good European business fares front?
Obviously, I don't need a business fare in reality (any trip to DUS on AF or KL with a transfer in CDG or AMS would yield the 8XPs necessary in the form of 10XPs), but a cheap business run would give me a head start on keeping Platinum next year, as the XPs will be carried over. Oh, and I haven't written about my adventures in Jeju, South Korea, yet ... which is all part of my Plat run (although I was very much there for work!!).
Sep 16, 2018, 11:39 pm
#229
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: FB Plat
Posts: 195
I'm trying to work out a strategy for the rest of the year, because if all goes well I will be 8XP short of Platinum by mid October. I don't want to hit Platinum too quickly, but ideally by the end of the year, as my Gold status goes up to the end of the year. I think with the antics I got up to earlier this year (30 segments for Gold before the end of March) that would mean that my requalification year would normally start on 1st of January. I figure if I cross the 300XP threshold sometime in December, following advice received here on this forum, my requalification year will still start on 1st January.
So what I would be looking for is a business class run on Alitalia, somewhere in Europe, or any other carrier that offers the most reasonable price possible in business. I could do the outbound before the end of the year, and the inbound sometime in January. Starting point is not too much of a worry, although I spend much of my time in Germany and Switzerland, and I recall reading that there were some good fares out of Germany (to MAD for example, but I couldn't find any evidence of them). Are there any updates on the good European business fares front?
Obviously, I don't need a business fare in reality (any trip to DUS on AF or KL with a transfer in CDG or AMS would yield the 8XPs necessary in the form of 10XPs), but a cheap business run would give me a head start on keeping Platinum next year, as the XPs will be carried over. Oh, and I haven't written about my adventures in Jeju, South Korea, yet ... which is all part of my Plat run (although I was very much there for work!!).
So what I would be looking for is a business class run on Alitalia, somewhere in Europe, or any other carrier that offers the most reasonable price possible in business. I could do the outbound before the end of the year, and the inbound sometime in January. Starting point is not too much of a worry, although I spend much of my time in Germany and Switzerland, and I recall reading that there were some good fares out of Germany (to MAD for example, but I couldn't find any evidence of them). Are there any updates on the good European business fares front?
Obviously, I don't need a business fare in reality (any trip to DUS on AF or KL with a transfer in CDG or AMS would yield the 8XPs necessary in the form of 10XPs), but a cheap business run would give me a head start on keeping Platinum next year, as the XPs will be carried over. Oh, and I haven't written about my adventures in Jeju, South Korea, yet ... which is all part of my Plat run (although I was very much there for work!!).
Sep 17, 2018, 1:06 am
#230
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum | Flying Blue Petroleum | Hilton Gold | Marriott Gold | Shangri-La Jade
Posts: 306
I'm trying to work out a strategy for the rest of the year, because if all goes well I will be 8XP short of Platinum by mid October. I don't want to hit Platinum too quickly, but ideally by the end of the year, as my Gold status goes up to the end of the year. I think with the antics I got up to earlier this year (30 segments for Gold before the end of March) that would mean that my requalification year would normally start on 1st of January. I figure if I cross the 300XP threshold sometime in December, following advice received here on this forum, my requalification year will still start on 1st January.
So what I would be looking for is a business class run on Alitalia, somewhere in Europe, or any other carrier that offers the most reasonable price possible in business. I could do the outbound before the end of the year, and the inbound sometime in January. Starting point is not too much of a worry, although I spend much of my time in Germany and Switzerland, and I recall reading that there were some good fares out of Germany (to MAD for example, but I couldn't find any evidence of them). Are there any updates on the good European business fares front?
Obviously, I don't need a business fare in reality (any trip to DUS on AF or KL with a transfer in CDG or AMS would yield the 8XPs necessary in the form of 10XPs), but a cheap business run would give me a head start on keeping Platinum next year, as the XPs will be carried over. Oh, and I haven't written about my adventures in Jeju, South Korea, yet ... which is all part of my Plat run (although I was very much there for work!!).
So what I would be looking for is a business class run on Alitalia, somewhere in Europe, or any other carrier that offers the most reasonable price possible in business. I could do the outbound before the end of the year, and the inbound sometime in January. Starting point is not too much of a worry, although I spend much of my time in Germany and Switzerland, and I recall reading that there were some good fares out of Germany (to MAD for example, but I couldn't find any evidence of them). Are there any updates on the good European business fares front?
Obviously, I don't need a business fare in reality (any trip to DUS on AF or KL with a transfer in CDG or AMS would yield the 8XPs necessary in the form of 10XPs), but a cheap business run would give me a head start on keeping Platinum next year, as the XPs will be carried over. Oh, and I haven't written about my adventures in Jeju, South Korea, yet ... which is all part of my Plat run (although I was very much there for work!!).
Still wide open the coming months, well into the new year. Miles are better on AZ though.
Sep 17, 2018, 1:45 am
#231
Moderator: Aegean Miles+Bonus
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 7,342
I'm trying to work out a strategy for the rest of the year, because if all goes well I will be 8XP short of Platinum by mid October. I don't want to hit Platinum too quickly, but ideally by the end of the year, as my Gold status goes up to the end of the year. I think with the antics I got up to earlier this year (30 segments for Gold before the end of March) that would mean that my requalification year would normally start on 1st of January. I figure if I cross the 300XP threshold sometime in December, following advice received here on this forum, my requalification year will still start on 1st January.
So what I would be looking for is a business class run on Alitalia, somewhere in Europe, or any other carrier that offers the most reasonable price possible in business. I could do the outbound before the end of the year, and the inbound sometime in January. Starting point is not too much of a worry, although I spend much of my time in Germany and Switzerland, and I recall reading that there were some good fares out of Germany (to MAD for example, but I couldn't find any evidence of them). Are there any updates on the good European business fares front?
Obviously, I don't need a business fare in reality (any trip to DUS on AF or KL with a transfer in CDG or AMS would yield the 8XPs necessary in the form of 10XPs), but a cheap business run would give me a head start on keeping Platinum next year, as the XPs will be carried over. Oh, and I haven't written about my adventures in Jeju, South Korea, yet ... which is all part of my Plat run (although I was very much there for work!!).
So what I would be looking for is a business class run on Alitalia, somewhere in Europe, or any other carrier that offers the most reasonable price possible in business. I could do the outbound before the end of the year, and the inbound sometime in January. Starting point is not too much of a worry, although I spend much of my time in Germany and Switzerland, and I recall reading that there were some good fares out of Germany (to MAD for example, but I couldn't find any evidence of them). Are there any updates on the good European business fares front?
Obviously, I don't need a business fare in reality (any trip to DUS on AF or KL with a transfer in CDG or AMS would yield the 8XPs necessary in the form of 10XPs), but a cheap business run would give me a head start on keeping Platinum next year, as the XPs will be carried over. Oh, and I haven't written about my adventures in Jeju, South Korea, yet ... which is all part of my Plat run (although I was very much there for work!!).
Personally I appreciate these AZ deals. I can use them for my regular flying so its not all 'wasted' as a mileage run. I actually use these for my commute. Of course, Alitalia business class is not great (far from it)...but it surely beats sitting in Economy. The price is about 150 euro more than the economy fare, earning 40XP extra...so < 4 euro per 'extra' XP in my case. If you only fly for the sake of earning XP's its about 5 euro per XP.
My only concern is..Alitalia's well being. Rumors have been doing the rounds about having to pay back loans at the end of the year. I'm not very up-to-date with Italy's politics, but chances are that -at some point- Alitalia will face issues. What is the concensus regarding (Credit card) travel insurance in such case? When Malev went bust I got everything back from Amex...but this is different. Alitalia is technically already bankrupt.
Last edited by Xandrios; Sep 17, 2018 at 2:20 am
Sep 17, 2018, 3:30 pm
#232
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Montreux CH
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M FTL, BA Blue
Posts: 11,623
Some good ideas above. I like the Greek itinerary, although it would take a bit more time to do it. I was hoping that MAD would be a good destination (for reasonable Business class fares) but it's still north of 400 Euros. When I started looking at leaving from FRA, instead of DUS, prices came down a bit. If we can find a couple of itineraries at a reasonable price, then it would be worth doing two or three of these.
A bit outside what I need just now, so not really relevant, but I believe that it is possible to find multi-segment Delta flights in domestic First, but it's hardly worth it as each segment would yield only 6XP (and First segments are clocked as Business class flights).
I too wonder what will become of Alitalia. If they were anywhere other than Italy I think they would have been snuffed out of existence a long time ago.
A bit outside what I need just now, so not really relevant, but I believe that it is possible to find multi-segment Delta flights in domestic First, but it's hardly worth it as each segment would yield only 6XP (and First segments are clocked as Business class flights).
I too wonder what will become of Alitalia. If they were anywhere other than Italy I think they would have been snuffed out of existence a long time ago.
Sep 18, 2018, 8:51 am
#233
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: MUC
Programs: TK Elite, FB Gold
Posts: 315
How exactly did you get that? I tried to recreate a similar route from MUC with stopovers in CDG and AMS but it didn't yield anything. I'm getting Gold in a couple of months and want to try keeping it if it proves easy.
Sep 18, 2018, 9:36 am
#234
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I think when it starts hitting the 400-500 Euros range, you might as well start looking at some of the Saudia deals, which would in themselves yield a lot more XPs for less outlay overall. Are there any of those at the moment? And what about TAROM? I would expect them to have something interesting floating around.
Sep 18, 2018, 11:28 am
#235
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: MUC
Programs: TK Elite, FB Gold
Posts: 315
I'm actually flying to OTP every few months and TAROM has some of the most inflated J fares I've seen, not to mention the product is sub-par.
You do get very good Y deals (90-130 EUR) but that's only in/out of OTP. I guess these can be combined to go to some more far out places like Lebanon or Georgia but not on the same ticket.
You do get very good Y deals (90-130 EUR) but that's only in/out of OTP. I guess these can be combined to go to some more far out places like Lebanon or Georgia but not on the same ticket.
Sep 18, 2018, 11:44 am
#236
Join Date: Jul 2010
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, BAEC Silver, Hilton Honors Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Tit, Accor Plat
Posts: 246
Saudia still has plenty of options, including ROM-CGK-ROM for around GBP780 and 108XP, and IST to CGK, KUL, MNL etc for about GBP710 (slightly fewer XP but you could experience the new IST airport). You can also book open-jaws. I recently did MXP to CGK and KUL-MXP on Saudia, joining them up with KL's fifth freedom CGK-KUL earning an additional 15XP. I'm also in for another one over Christmas ex-ROM.
Last edited by Andrew_G; Sep 18, 2018 at 11:52 am
Sep 18, 2018, 12:02 pm
#237
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: GOT
Programs: KL Plat
Posts: 484
I've only seen those fares to destinations served by KL and not AF - otherwise it's unlikely to get the extra AMS stop in.
Sep 18, 2018, 1:59 pm
#238
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: MUC
Programs: TK Elite, FB Gold
Posts: 315
I managed to find something to SVG with 2 stopovers but around 600 EUR so not really a great price.
Last edited by B0gdan; Sep 18, 2018 at 2:04 pm Reason: Found something
Sep 18, 2018, 3:06 pm
#239
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum | Flying Blue Petroleum | Hilton Gold | Marriott Gold | Shangri-La Jade
Posts: 306
I just tried recreating the route our colleague @glennhaak here suggested with ITA Matrix. So MUC to BLL with stopovers in CDG and AMS, alliance Skyteam. But nothing comes up.
I managed to find something to SVG with 2 stopovers but around 600 EUR so not really a great price.
I managed to find something to SVG with 2 stopovers but around 600 EUR so not really a great price.
Or MUC - AAL with stops in CDG & AMS https://goo.gl/flights/hTkfq
MUC - TRD https://goo.gl/flights/uqvoh
Your suggestion to SVG is also a good find, even at €600 for 90XP.
Sep 18, 2018, 7:33 pm
#240
Join Date: May 2015
Location: RBA / TBS
Programs: AF Gold / Accor Gold / Hilton Diamond / TP Silver / A3 Gold
Posts: 2,750
You could also do AMS - KSC with stops in CDG and PRG https://goo.gl/flights/pecXZ