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Wiki for Mileage/XP Runs
Indicate below your itinerary, availability dates, price and XP. Please only log runs with confirmed fares availability. Feel free to tag yourself if you want to meet fellow FTers.
Eg:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-MXP in J, 2021-01-01/02, 570 €, 180 XP
HEL-AMS-LAX-AMS-HEL in J, 2022-08-16/18, 1059 €, 204 XP (@XXXFlyer arriving at 11:50 AM, leaving at 06:00 AM)
Upcoming runs:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK in J on 2022/07/21-22, 380€ - 45XP (8,44€/XP) : one way
Past runs:
For future reference, log below your most interesting XP runs:
KRK-AMS-CDG-BCN-AMS-CDG-KRK, 2021-07-22/24, 576 €, 180 XP
ATH-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-ATH in J, 2021-09-18/19, 561€
KRK-AMS-CDG-LIS-CDG-AMS-KRK, 2021-07-22/28, 492 € 180 XP
NTE-CDG-AMS-LIS-CDG-LYS-NTE, 2021-09-25/26, 157 €/42XP
Indicate below your itinerary, availability dates, price and XP. Please only log runs with confirmed fares availability. Feel free to tag yourself if you want to meet fellow FTers.
Eg:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-MXP in J, 2021-01-01/02, 570 €, 180 XP
HEL-AMS-LAX-AMS-HEL in J, 2022-08-16/18, 1059 €, 204 XP (@XXXFlyer arriving at 11:50 AM, leaving at 06:00 AM)
Upcoming runs:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK in J on 2022/07/21-22, 380€ - 45XP (8,44€/XP) : one way
Past runs:
For future reference, log below your most interesting XP runs:
KRK-AMS-CDG-BCN-AMS-CDG-KRK, 2021-07-22/24, 576 €, 180 XP
ATH-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-ATH in J, 2021-09-18/19, 561€
KRK-AMS-CDG-LIS-CDG-AMS-KRK, 2021-07-22/28, 492 € 180 XP
NTE-CDG-AMS-LIS-CDG-LYS-NTE, 2021-09-25/26, 157 €/42XP
Mileage runs for Flying Blue - best routes?
#166
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About time, too. But rather cynical of Flying Blue. Only when UX decides to leave, does FB decide to reward all flight classes.
If they had shown such "generosity by nature" before, perhaps UX may not have felt the need to leave.
#167
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I guess F must be a relatively new AZ fare class, but here is another example of a fare class which is not one of the very cheapest - and which sits higher than other FB-earning classes - which earns nothing.
If you're going to have non-earning classes, make sure that they are the cheapest economy classes...don't spread them randomly throughout the full family, or rather, don't wait months after a partner changes their fare structure before changing the FB earning table to reflect the changes!
#168
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Location: Montreux CH
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Oh that's interesting, suddenly the whole segment thing becomes plausible again. Although I think someone should pay me to sit on UX planes, such a day of torture it would turn out to be! We need to make sure there's not something like the Air France MiNi fare nonsense, where no miles are earned (is this still the case, for I haven't flown AF for practically the whole time since MiNi was introduced?)
#169
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Location: Netherlands
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AF has its mini/miles-free fares; Alitalia has some (illogical) exclusions - and there is always the "danger" that any domestic flights won't count so the segments may not rack up as planned; KL tends (at least from the Dutch market) not to be as cheap as other options.
#170
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Paris/Milan
Programs: Flying Blue Platinium; All Gold, A3 Gold, Safar Flyer Gold (OW Sapphire)
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Which kinda makes sense - it is not in the table of eligible earning fares on Alitalia page of FB partners.
Be also carefull with R - it only earns something on domestic Italian routes, otherwise 0. In general, always consult ITA for a booking class, or even better - book on KL/AF web-site if you don't mind paying extra 10-15 euros. Learned it the hard way on my own.
Be also carefull with R - it only earns something on domestic Italian routes, otherwise 0. In general, always consult ITA for a booking class, or even better - book on KL/AF web-site if you don't mind paying extra 10-15 euros. Learned it the hard way on my own.
If you can read French i can send to you their answer
#171
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Paris/Milan
Programs: Flying Blue Platinium; All Gold, A3 Gold, Safar Flyer Gold (OW Sapphire)
Posts: 311
Be careful with Alitalia!
I recently travelled on what turned out to be an "F" fare, which on the Paris routes maps to a "Light" fare, but on all other European flights is a "Classic" fare that earns at the same level in MillieMiglia as O and L (minimum 350 miles per sector), i.e. above the lowest earning rates of R and G (minimum 250 miles).
However, in Flying Blue, F earns nothing! This, despite its "equivalents" O and L earning 50%, and even the lower G fare earns 50% in Flying Blue.
I recently travelled on what turned out to be an "F" fare, which on the Paris routes maps to a "Light" fare, but on all other European flights is a "Classic" fare that earns at the same level in MillieMiglia as O and L (minimum 350 miles per sector), i.e. above the lowest earning rates of R and G (minimum 250 miles).
However, in Flying Blue, F earns nothing! This, despite its "equivalents" O and L earning 50%, and even the lower G fare earns 50% in Flying Blue.
#172
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NUE
Programs: *G (TK elite+), OW sapphire (QR), ST elite plus (AF). LA black
Posts: 3,687
check the mileage run forum - CPH-AMS-LIS-PDL-LIS-AMS-CPH in business class from 150€ (!!!)
or CPH/ARN-AGP/ALG for 250€ in AF business class (wide open next year)
or CPH/ARN-AGP/ALG for 250€ in AF business class (wide open next year)
#173
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That's more like it! Of course, I am jammed with concerts, rehearsals etc. for the first half of next year, so I will have to sit it out and see if something comes up closer to Spring. It seems to be a good period for offers and deals.
#174
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#175
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Paris, France
Programs: Flying Blue (LTPE) All (Gold)
Posts: 1,519
Only on Alitalia flights.
F is an economic booking class on AZ flights that earns miles in "Millemiglia" FF program.
Nothing to do with F first class on Flying Blue
F is an economic booking class on AZ flights that earns miles in "Millemiglia" FF program.
Nothing to do with F first class on Flying Blue
Last edited by delanotre; Dec 20, 2015 at 12:09 am Reason: precision
#176
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#177
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Location: Montreux CH
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M FTL, BA Blue
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You might want to take a look at these deals from Germany posted in the Mileage Runs forum, offering RT tickets from €45 to CDG:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...l#post26187212
Kayak forwards you onto fluege.de and my first fear was that there will be a huge CC fee, which is indeed the case with AMEX (pushes it up to €70, still a brilliant price). However, it would appear that if you pay with VISA there is no fee.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...l#post26187212
Kayak forwards you onto fluege.de and my first fear was that there will be a huge CC fee, which is indeed the case with AMEX (pushes it up to €70, still a brilliant price). However, it would appear that if you pay with VISA there is no fee.
#179
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: WORLD
Programs: Bonvoy Titanium, Flying Blue (KLM) Platinum, Oneworld (BA) Sapphire, *A (Aegean) Gold, IHG Spire RA,
Posts: 555
#180
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NUE
Programs: *G (TK elite+), OW sapphire (QR), ST elite plus (AF). LA black
Posts: 3,687
I keep on watching cheapish AZ business class fares.
Just booked CAI-FCO-LAX-JFK-FCO-CAI for 1050€ - gains about 30.000 status miles - o.k. CAI is not the best airport to start a MR - but the Promo Award Europe-CAI in business class on the new AF 787 makes it much more sweet
One of the few real mileage runs I do (for the sake of status miles) - however I have one afternoon/evening in LAX and one day in NYC - no hotel needed on this extended weekend trip
Just booked CAI-FCO-LAX-JFK-FCO-CAI for 1050€ - gains about 30.000 status miles - o.k. CAI is not the best airport to start a MR - but the Promo Award Europe-CAI in business class on the new AF 787 makes it much more sweet
One of the few real mileage runs I do (for the sake of status miles) - however I have one afternoon/evening in LAX and one day in NYC - no hotel needed on this extended weekend trip