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Wiki for Mileage/XP Runs
Indicate below your itinerary, availability dates, price and XP. Please only log runs with confirmed fares availability. Feel free to tag yourself if you want to meet fellow FTers.
Eg:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-MXP in J, 2021-01-01/02, 570 €, 180 XP
HEL-AMS-LAX-AMS-HEL in J, 2022-08-16/18, 1059 €, 204 XP (@XXXFlyer arriving at 11:50 AM, leaving at 06:00 AM)
Upcoming runs:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK in J on 2022/07/21-22, 380€ - 45XP (8,44€/XP) : one way
Past runs:
For future reference, log below your most interesting XP runs:
KRK-AMS-CDG-BCN-AMS-CDG-KRK, 2021-07-22/24, 576 €, 180 XP
ATH-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-ATH in J, 2021-09-18/19, 561€
KRK-AMS-CDG-LIS-CDG-AMS-KRK, 2021-07-22/28, 492 € 180 XP
NTE-CDG-AMS-LIS-CDG-LYS-NTE, 2021-09-25/26, 157 €/42XP
Indicate below your itinerary, availability dates, price and XP. Please only log runs with confirmed fares availability. Feel free to tag yourself if you want to meet fellow FTers.
Eg:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-MXP in J, 2021-01-01/02, 570 €, 180 XP
HEL-AMS-LAX-AMS-HEL in J, 2022-08-16/18, 1059 €, 204 XP (@XXXFlyer arriving at 11:50 AM, leaving at 06:00 AM)
Upcoming runs:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK in J on 2022/07/21-22, 380€ - 45XP (8,44€/XP) : one way
Past runs:
For future reference, log below your most interesting XP runs:
KRK-AMS-CDG-BCN-AMS-CDG-KRK, 2021-07-22/24, 576 €, 180 XP
ATH-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-ATH in J, 2021-09-18/19, 561€
KRK-AMS-CDG-LIS-CDG-AMS-KRK, 2021-07-22/28, 492 € 180 XP
NTE-CDG-AMS-LIS-CDG-LYS-NTE, 2021-09-25/26, 157 €/42XP
Mileage runs for Flying Blue - best routes?
Mar 14, 2015, 6:03 am
#61
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Montreux CH
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M FTL, BA Blue
Posts: 11,624
My China/Hong Kong trip this Summer should earn me about 25,000 qualifying miles, if all goes well. All that for 6 segments, which is pretty good. Are there any reasonably affordable European runs which would help me close the gap to get Gold status without having to segment run? I could also look at a Delta run in the US later in August.
Mar 14, 2015, 7:44 am
#62
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NUE
Programs: *G (TK elite+), OW sapphire (QR), ST elite plus (AF). LA black
Posts: 3,687
My China/Hong Kong trip this Summer should earn me about 25,000 qualifying miles, if all goes well. All that for 6 segments, which is pretty good. Are there any reasonably affordable European runs which would help me close the gap to get Gold status without having to segment run? I could also look at a Delta run in the US later in August.
there are no cheap mileage-earning routes on AF/KL in europe. cheapish fares give you no miles or 25%.
"cheaply" earned FB miles on longhaul are currently
IST-HKG, IST-CGK are about 1860€ roundtrip in business class. (KL)
HEL-LAX in summer is also about 1850€ in business class. (KL)
Mar 14, 2015, 1:31 pm
#63
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Location: Montreux CH
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Well, I just found FRA-MAD on Air Europa for €384 in Business, so there must be some other opportunities like this. I always thought Air Europa might have possibilities as yet unexplored by us.
I also read about a Kenya Airways fare between BKK and HKG that was supposed to be quite cheap in business, but that's not much use to me here.
I also read about a Kenya Airways fare between BKK and HKG that was supposed to be quite cheap in business, but that's not much use to me here.
Mar 14, 2015, 1:33 pm
#64
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Location: London
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Well, I just found FRA-MAD on Air Europa for €384 in Business, so there must be some other opportunities like this. I always thought Air Europa might have possibilities as yet unexplored by us.
I also read about a Kenya Airways fare between BKK and HKG that was supposed to be quite cheap in business, but that's not much use to me here.
I also read about a Kenya Airways fare between BKK and HKG that was supposed to be quite cheap in business, but that's not much use to me here.
Mar 14, 2015, 2:57 pm
#65
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NUE
Programs: *G (TK elite+), OW sapphire (QR), ST elite plus (AF). LA black
Posts: 3,687
Well, I just found FRA-MAD on Air Europa for €384 in Business, so there must be some other opportunities like this. I always thought Air Europa might have possibilities as yet unexplored by us.
I also read about a Kenya Airways fare between BKK and HKG that was supposed to be quite cheap in business, but that's not much use to me here.
I also read about a Kenya Airways fare between BKK and HKG that was supposed to be quite cheap in business, but that's not much use to me here.
but UX only gives 100% for business class tickets
Last edited by f0zzyNUE; Mar 14, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Mar 15, 2015, 8:46 am
#67
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 183
Because then this would earn 11250 miles for €993.
Code:
Hamburg (HAM) to Rome (FCO) — Mon, Jun 1 Hamburg (HAM) to Amsterdam (AMS) — Mon, Jun 1 KLM 1776 Dep: 6:10 am Arr: 7:15 am 1h 5m Boeing 737 Business (Z) Meal Layover in AMS 2h 0m Amsterdam (AMS) to Turin (TRN) — Mon, Jun 1 KLM 1555 Dep: 9:15 am Arr: 11:00 am 1h 45m Fokker 70 Business (Z) Meal OPERATED BY KLM CITYHOPPER Layover in TRN 1h 15m Turin (TRN) to Rome (FCO) — Mon, Jun 1 KLM 3473 Dep: 12:15 pm Arr: 1:30 pm 1h 15m Airbus A319 Business (Z) OPERATED BY ALITALIA Rome (FCO) to Hamburg (HAM) — Mon, Jun 8 Rome (FCO) to Florence (FLR) — Mon, Jun 8 KLM 2786 Dep: 10:05 am Arr: 11:00 am 0h 55m Embraer RJ-175 Business (Z) OPERATED BY ALITALIA Layover in FLR 1h 35m Florence (FLR) to Amsterdam (AMS) — Mon, Jun 8 KLM 1642 Dep: 12:35 pm Arr: 2:45 pm 2h 10m Embraer RJ-190 Business (Z) Meal OPERATED BY KLM CITYHOPPER Layover in AMS 2h 0m Amsterdam (AMS) to Hamburg (HAM) — Mon, Jun 8 KLM 1783 Dep: 4:45 pm Arr: 5:50 pm 1h 5m Boeing 737 Business (Z)
Mar 15, 2015, 9:15 am
#68
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Paris, France
Programs: Flying Blue (LTPE) All (Gold)
Posts: 1,519
If your flight number starts with an airline code from one of the Flying Blue partner airlines (e.g. KL 0123) the accrual scheme of that specific partner (in this case KLM) will apply, even if the flight is operated by another Flying Blue airline.
Last edited by delanotre; Mar 15, 2015 at 9:32 am
Mar 17, 2015, 8:43 am
#69
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Mar 21, 2015, 1:30 pm
#70
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Netherlands
Programs: FB Plat
Posts: 111
Am I right in believing that AZ flights under KL code also earn 250% the min amount? The KLM/Flying Blue site only speaks of 'European flights'.
Because then this would earn 11250 miles for €993.
[code
Amsterdam (AMS) to Turin (TRN) — Mon, Jun 1
KLM 1555
Dep: 9:15 am
Arr: 11:00 am
1h 45m
Fokker 70
Business (Z)
Meal
OPERATED BY KLM CITYHOPPER
Layover in TRN
1h 15m
[/code]
Because then this would earn 11250 miles for €993.
[code
Amsterdam (AMS) to Turin (TRN) — Mon, Jun 1
KLM 1555
Dep: 9:15 am
Arr: 11:00 am
1h 45m
Fokker 70
Business (Z)
Meal
OPERATED BY KLM CITYHOPPER
Layover in TRN
1h 15m
[/code]
Mar 21, 2015, 2:41 pm
#71
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,750
- how did you calculate that mileage total? It looks incredibly high
- for the number of award miles listed, you could just buy them direct from FB for about a third of that price
- the level miles you would earn on this trip would still leave you a long ways off earning even Silver. Better to focus on qualifying by segments, rather than by level miles. The 6 segments of this trip actually probably are more valuable than the level miles earned!
- People who qualify on level miles usually do so because of LONGHAUL (better still: Business) flying. Otherwise, your segment count gets you to the threshold long, long before your level miles balance does
- that price looks very high!
Mar 22, 2015, 5:24 am
#72
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Paris, France
Programs: Flying Blue (LTPE) All (Gold)
Posts: 1,519
Although I am nor a MR specialist, around €6000 for 70000 EQM is not a so bad ratio to reach Platinum status: it is near the ratio when you fly LH in First class on specific destinations.
Flying business in Europe lets you earn 250% EQM, near 300% in First LH.
Unfortunately, to reach status with segments in Europe is not so easier and cheaper than in US.
Flying business in Europe lets you earn 250% EQM, near 300% in First LH.
Unfortunately, to reach status with segments in Europe is not so easier and cheaper than in US.
Mar 22, 2015, 7:51 am
#74
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
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If someone is determined to achieve status based on level miles - then fine! However, they would need 6 of those 6-sector itineraries, so they are already engaged, to an extent, in segment running (the route can more easily be done in 4 segments, rather than 6. When flying business and intending to qualify on miles, you would also need to grind out these extra segments)
So I don't understand the motivation to get there on level miles, alone. When it is easier, and much cheapest, to do so purely by segments.
So you think it's easier to do in the States?
I disagree. Flying around in the US is more expensive than flying within Europe. And the twin-hub AFKL means no-one is deprived of routing through at least one of these hubs! 2 segments can be had for €99, 4 segments for a little more. Just going on simple 2-segment €99 fares, you'd get to platinum for half the mentioned spend. Throw in a more sophisticated mix of multistop itineraries, and €2000 would be your new target.
So I don't understand the motivation to get there on level miles, alone. When it is easier, and much cheapest, to do so purely by segments.
I disagree. Flying around in the US is more expensive than flying within Europe. And the twin-hub AFKL means no-one is deprived of routing through at least one of these hubs! 2 segments can be had for €99, 4 segments for a little more. Just going on simple 2-segment €99 fares, you'd get to platinum for half the mentioned spend. Throw in a more sophisticated mix of multistop itineraries, and €2000 would be your new target.
Mar 22, 2015, 8:00 am
#75
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
If someone is determined to achieve status based on level miles - then fine! However, they would need 6 of those 6-sector itineraries, so they are already engaged, to an extent, in segment running (the route can more easily be done in 4 segments, rather than 6. When flying business and intending to qualify on miles, you would also need to grind out these extra segments)
So I don't understand the motivation to get there on level miles, alone. When it is easier, and much cheapest, to do so purely by segments.
So I don't understand the motivation to get there on level miles, alone. When it is easier, and much cheapest, to do so purely by segments.