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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible

NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)

ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25

Code:

F-GSPA – NEV4
 F-GSPE – NEV4
 F-GSPM – NEV4
 F-GSPZ – NEV4

Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25

Code:

F-GSPD
 F-GSPP

Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:

F-GSPB – BEST
 F-GSPC – BEST
 F-GSPF – BEST
 F-GSPG – BEST
 F-GSPH – BEST
 F-GSPI – BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK – BEST
 F-GSPQ – BEST
 F-GSPR – BEST
 F-GSPS – BEST
 F-GSPT – BEST
 F-GSPU – BEST
 F-GSPV – BEST
 F-GSPX – BEST
 F-GSPY – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25

Code:

F-GSPL – BEST
 F-GSPO – BEST
 F-GSPN – BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:

All Converted to BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:

F-GSQD – NEV4
 F-GSQE – NEV4
 F-GZNH – NEV4
 F-GZNI – NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43

Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:

F-GSQA – BEST
 F-GSQB – BEST
 F-GSQC – BEST
 F-GSQF – BEST
 F-GSQG – BEST
 F-GSQH – BEST
 F-GSQI – BEST
 F-GSQJ – BEST
 F-GSQK – BEST
 F-GSQL – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GSQM – BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GZNA – BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC – BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:

F-GSQN – NEV4
 F-GSQO – NEV4
 F-GSQP – NEV4
 F-GSQR – NEV4
 F-GSQS – NEV4
 F-GSQT – NEV4
 F-GSQX – NEV4
 F-GZNF – NEV4
 F-GZNG – NEV4
 F-GZNL – NEV4
 F-GZNN – NEV4
 F-GZNO – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:

F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)

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Oct 14, 2015, 3:06 pm

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moved to new thread

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Oct 15, 2015, 12:07 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by San Gottardo

Thanks, that's good to know. Although I assume that if something frees up before I can just as well buy through the normal channels, i.e. call centre. But still good to know that they can deal with last minute cancellations and sell them even in the lounge or at the check-in counter.

If we speak about cash upgrades, I believe it can be done only at the airport (or of course on-line if you are targeted by the offer) and not through "normal channels" (I understand this being the channel you booked your ticket with, e.g. call center, travel agency, etc). If you use the normal channel, you will pay the normal fare difference between J and P. The cash upgrade on-line or at the airport is normally at a reduced price (in cash, in miles or combination of both). At outstations, this is processed at check-in or ticketing counters where they have the price list depending on your booking class and if the flight is overbooked or not (remember the info we had some weeks ago in another thread ? And I have seen such a list myself since that in ICN).
In CDG, I have no experience and don't know if this can be done at check-in. But I have seen many times airside at 2E at customer service desks some signs about possibility of paid upgrades to J, so it might be the best place to do it (or again at the lounge - I believe they can do it as wel as I have witnessed them many times calling FB for some pax requiring miles upgrades).

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFO777

How widespread is the cash-for-upgrade option?
Is it offered on most flights with open inventory, even into La Première?

I have no idea if they are proposed on most flights with open inventory. If you read the cash upgrade thread in this forum, there are several reports about being proposed one (from J to P), but they are usually very expensive (at least 2K€ one-way)

Oct 16, 2015, 1:34 pm

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I am noticing the window seats in the 77W new Business Class cabin are no longer restricted to elites. Was there a recent change in policy? I remember only elites could assign a window seat as recent as a week ago.

Oct 16, 2015, 2:38 pm

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777 New Cabins - Deployment Schedule

Are you flying full fare maybe?

Oct 17, 2015, 1:34 am

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Are you flying full fare maybe?

To be precise : J, C, D fares

Oct 21, 2015, 6:28 am

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777-200 New Business Class?

Hello,

Apologies if this has already been answered, but I would appreciate your help.

I'm looking at booking LHR to Osaka, mainly because of the great deal on at the moment but also to try the new business class seats.

I appreciate that not all of the 777-200's have been updated yet (I've had a look at the wiki post)

On the AF website, you can chose your seats, and on a dummy booking, for the dates I’d like, it’s showing the new seating layout. Some dates in the same month show the old layout, some the new.

Do you think it’s risky booking it, on the new layout... incase there’s a plane swap? or is that highly unlikely?

Thanks for the advice.

Luke

Oct 21, 2015, 2:29 pm

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Do you think it’s risky booking it, on the new layout... incase there’s a plane swap? or is that highly unlikely?

Nobody knows that unfortunately and anything can always happen. As the price for this UK sale to KIX is very interesting, just go ahead and even if you end-up in NEV4, that will still be a very good deal for you.

Oct 22, 2015, 1:15 am

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Oct 22, 2015, 4:57 pm

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Forgive me , I can't figure out if my Nov CDG- ATL is on the new 777-300. All it says on the Delta site is 777-300 with no reference to old or new.
Does anyone know?
thanks

Oct 23, 2015, 12:25 am

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Forgive me , I can't figure out if my Nov CDG- ATL is on the new 777-300. All it says on the Delta site is 777-300 with no reference to old or new.
Does anyone know?
thanks

Only the seat map can tell you : 1-2-1 is the new seat, 2-3-2 is the old config. But ATL is not supposed to be BEST before January, so...But who knows, it is the same for IAD and I had it 2 weeks ago.

Oct 27, 2015, 10:05 am

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Thanks- I guess we shall see. It looks like the old one for now.

Oct 29, 2015, 8:20 pm

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Recently, AF posted on its corporate website an update on the new cabins, stating that by March 2016 30 aircraft will be refurnished. Read more here

This means, judging from the FT wiki on the upgrade progress, that only one aircraft will be refurbished per month, which seems slower than before.

A far larger disappointed for me is this website that they launched to promote the new cabins.
http://best.airfrance.com/
The most crucial piece of information - which particular flight have them (subject to operational changes, etc) is missing. Only destinations are listed, which may lead to disappointment for many as not every single flight on a particular route is scheduled to have the best.

Nov 1, 2015, 7:52 am

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New update posted on 30/10
https://www.agentconnect.biz/FR/fr/l...f/BEST_AGV.pdf

New BEST destinations since a few days : EZE/MVD, BOS, BLR and KIX.

Nov 2, 2015, 4:37 pm

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thanks for the update but I remain very confused. I just verified that if I purchased a ticket today for IAH>CDG for next Monday, I would be able to sit in a BEST seat on a A330...at least according to the seat layout presented when I made my mock booking. However, according to AF's information you passed along, none of the 330s are in the BEST configuration and for that matter, Houston doesn't even show up on their map or list of cities served.

Nov 2, 2015, 7:03 pm

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Not sure I follow you. IAH is indeed not listed as a BEST destination in the file I linked in this thread. And there is an obvious reason for this because, as you said, it is currently served by an A332 and none of them are BEST retro-fitted. So I doubt, doing a dummy booking, you saw a BEST seat map unless there is an equipment change for a B777 the day you checked. The A332 current J layout (NEV4) is 2-2-2 while BEST J is 1-2-1 if that may help.