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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible

NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)

ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25

Code:

F-GSPA – NEV4
 F-GSPE – NEV4
 F-GSPM – NEV4
 F-GSPZ – NEV4

Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25

Code:

F-GSPD
 F-GSPP

Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:

F-GSPB – BEST
 F-GSPC – BEST
 F-GSPF – BEST
 F-GSPG – BEST
 F-GSPH – BEST
 F-GSPI – BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK – BEST
 F-GSPQ – BEST
 F-GSPR – BEST
 F-GSPS – BEST
 F-GSPT – BEST
 F-GSPU – BEST
 F-GSPV – BEST
 F-GSPX – BEST
 F-GSPY – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25

Code:

F-GSPL – BEST
 F-GSPO – BEST
 F-GSPN – BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:

All Converted to BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:

F-GSQD – NEV4
 F-GSQE – NEV4
 F-GZNH – NEV4
 F-GZNI – NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43

Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:

F-GSQA – BEST
 F-GSQB – BEST
 F-GSQC – BEST
 F-GSQF – BEST
 F-GSQG – BEST
 F-GSQH – BEST
 F-GSQI – BEST
 F-GSQJ – BEST
 F-GSQK – BEST
 F-GSQL – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GSQM – BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GZNA – BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC – BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:

F-GSQN – NEV4
 F-GSQO – NEV4
 F-GSQP – NEV4
 F-GSQR – NEV4
 F-GSQS – NEV4
 F-GSQT – NEV4
 F-GSQX – NEV4
 F-GZNF – NEV4
 F-GZNG – NEV4
 F-GZNL – NEV4
 F-GZNN – NEV4
 F-GZNO – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:

F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)

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Nov 28, 2015, 10:19 am

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Originally Posted by miles_navigator

I believe you are going to get this configuration (last one on the Wiki at the top/above).

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y

Just put in a date of travel for the flight and look at the seat map and try to match it to one of the ones listed at the top of the Wiki.

I don't know what picture that translates into.

Thanks

Nov 28, 2015, 7:35 pm

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Originally Posted by miles_navigator

77Ws with only business class (42 old J, and Y starting in row 18) have either old Y seats or new Y seats (newly delivered planes).
On the wiki, the seat maps appear as either the second seat map of 77W (now 6 ac) or the last seat map of 77W (now 3 ac).
The older Y seats tend to have more padding and the new one are lighter and less padded, hence might get a tiny little gain in space. Also the commands are now purely touchscreen, no more had control (weight gain). Not much difference otherwise.
Impossible to predict which plane you will get. And ac type could easily change when summer comes.

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Nov 29, 2015, 6:44 am

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Originally Posted by brunos

77Ws with only business class (42 old J, and Y starting in row 18) have either old Y seats or new Y seats (newly delivered planes).

By old seats, do you mean the ones with Panasonic IFE introduced in 2011?

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-F...baa3ebb342507d

or the even older:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-F...baa3ebb342507d

?

Nov 29, 2015, 4:19 pm

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Originally Posted by LY777

I think you need to understand that nobody can tell you which version of IFE you will have in a flight in 7 or 8 months from now.

Nov 29, 2015, 5:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Goldorak

I think you need to understand that nobody can tell you which version of IFE you will have in a flight in 7 or 8 months from now.

Basically, you will only know when you enter the plane. All these 77W without F are used interchangeably.

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Nov 30, 2015, 5:49 am

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Originally Posted by Goldorak

I think you need to understand that nobody can tell you which version of IFE you will have in a flight in 7 or 8 months from now.

I know that!!!

My question is to know if some Leisure 77Ws still have the oldest Y seats!

Nov 30, 2015, 1:07 pm

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Originally Posted by LY777

I know that!!!

My question is to know if some Leisure 77Ws still have the oldest Y seats!

Sorry, but that wasn't your question originally (I'm quoting you below)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LY777

Hi, which 77W will fly CDG-ICN next summer?
The first Y row is 18 according to the seat map reservation.
I fly in Y.

Will I get this seat:
http://www.jetphotos.net/photo/7236885

Or this one:
http://www.jetphotos.net/photo/7196918

Or this one:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-F...36b053693bf801

Nov 30, 2015, 1:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Goldorak

Sorry, but that wasn't your question originally (I'm quoting you below)

I agree, my question was poorly worded.

I am going to edit it

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Nov 30, 2015, 2:54 pm

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Originally Posted by LY777

I agree, my question was poorly worded.

I am going to edit it

no problem

Nov 30, 2015, 8:42 pm

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I know that!!!

My question is to know if some Leisure 77Ws still have the oldest Y seats!

Your question is now totally different. AF does not fly the "leisure" 77W to ICN.

Nov 30, 2015, 11:50 pm

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Your question is now totally different. AF does not fly the "leisure" 77W to ICN.

I thought the 77Ws whose first Y row was number 18 were "Leisure" 77Ws.
So, what "kind" of 77Ws do they send to ICN?

Dec 1, 2015, 12:11 am

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So, what "kind" of 77Ws do they send to ICN?

Last time I was there (in august), I had :
- CDG-ICN : version with 381 seats (no P, J in NEV4, "old" seats in W and Y).
- ICN-CDG : it was one of the brand new delivered B77W but still with NEV4 in J and new seats in W and Y. Still 381 seats total

Dec 1, 2015, 4:30 am

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ok, thanks. So, these are the "Leisure 381-seats 77W"

These old Y seats look realy bad

Dec 1, 2015, 6:19 am

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ok, thanks. So, these are the "Leisure 381-seats 77W"

These old Y seats look realy bad

All I can do now do is repeat myself.
The leisure config, aka Carribean or COI, does not fly to ICN. It has 468 seats and only 12 of those are J (2 rows). The first Y row is number 10.

On the non-leisure destinations like ICN, you can get two types of 77W.
The 77W with no F has 381 seats (42 J, either old NEV or new BEST). the 77W with F has 322 seats (new BEST) or 303 seats (old NEV). AF is reducing its F offering, so 77W and 772 without F are becoming the norm; these are not leisure configs.

What you call old Y are preferred by some pax because they are padded and maybe a bit more comfortable than the latest version where AF (like other airlines) engaged in a cost-cutting exercise to reduce the seat weight. The avod on the new seats have a new touchscreen system compared to the hand-controlled system on the old seat, which also means a weight reduction. Whether this leads to an improvement in screen quality is open to debate.
But a long trip in Y is going to be a pain on any of these seats

Dec 1, 2015, 7:04 am

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Originally Posted by brunos

All I can do now do is repeat myself.
The leisure config, aka Carribean or COI, does not fly to ICN. It has 468 seats and only 12 of those are J (2 rows). The first Y row is number 10.

I heard that the 381-seat 77Ws are called "77W LOISIRS", and the 468-seats 77W are called "77W COI", hence the misunderstanding