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You must call in for stopovers, multi-city, or complicated routings, until the new booking system launches in 2021.

I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!

There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.

Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.

Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.

YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.

Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.

A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.

There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.

Information that is harder to find:
  • SE IKK redemption from the old program can be changed ("within reason") without repricing. Dates, routings, no problem. Origin/destination should be fine. But nothing that would have required a repricing under the old program. This is from Mark Nasr in https://www.facebook.com/pointsmiles...44878252851420
  • The "Activity" page only shows you the most recent ~48 transactions. See this post for information on how to get older data.
  • A partial refund may not be possible (e.g. if you book RT and outbound flight is cancelled by you or AC, to delete the first flight segment, you have to cancel the entire ticket and rebook the inbound at a potentially higher fare. It seems supervisor can grant exceptions.)
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Old Nov 26, 2020, 4:59 pm
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How will credit card points convert to SQMs? It says that if you earn 100K points you get 25K status - does this mean 1 SQM for every 4 points you earn? I.e. if one were to purchase an AC ticket for $3500 on a VIP card, would they earn 7000 Aeroplan points and 1750 SQM?
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Old Nov 26, 2020, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by yyztozag
How will credit card points convert to SQMs? It says that if you earn 100K points you get 25K status - does this mean 1 SQM for every 4 points you earn? I.e. if one were to purchase an AC ticket for $3500 on a VIP card, would they earn 7000 Aeroplan points and 1750 SQM?
Depending on which credit card you have, every $5000/10000 spend on the card equals 1000SQM and 1 SQS.

If you earn 100K points a year, you'll get 25K status. They aren't giving you 25K SQM, all you're getting is simply 25K status.

In other words, if you want higher than 25K status, you'll also need to make it there the normal way. You don't get a "head start".
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Old Nov 26, 2020, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by yyztozag
How will credit card points convert to SQMs? It says that if you earn 100K points you get 25K status - does this mean 1 SQM for every 4 points you earn? I.e. if one were to purchase an AC ticket for $3500 on a VIP card, would they earn 7000 Aeroplan points and 1750 SQM?
Visa IP card is 1000 SQM and one SQS at every $5,000 spent.
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by YOWgary
Visa IP card is 1000 SQM and one SQS at every $5,000 spent.
Do these go towards MM too?
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
Do these go towards MM too?
No
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 9:25 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
No
Oh well.
Probably better to not water down the MM program anyway.
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 8:32 pm
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When booking awards at the old website, I would often get an error about difficulty converting taxes to USD or something like that. Is that issue still there in the new website?
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 9:07 pm
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I have no idea what USD error you're referring to.

Aeroplan redemptions have been CAD-only for years. Not 8 years, but many years.
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Old Nov 28, 2020, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by YOWgary
Visa IP card is 1000 SQM and one SQS at every $5,000 spent.
This applied based on a monthly amount or is cumulative for the year (do you have to make $5K each month to the the SQM for the month)?
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Old Nov 28, 2020, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
This applied based on a monthly amount or is cumulative for the year (do you have to make $5K each month to the the SQM for the month)?
AFAIK it's cumulative. Not sure if the $5K counter resets at the card anniversary or the end of the qualification year - that is, I'm not sure what happens if you've spent $4800 at the end of new years eve.
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Old Nov 28, 2020, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by YOWgary
AFAIK it's cumulative. Not sure if the $5K counter resets at the card anniversary or the end of the qualification year - that is, I'm not sure what happens if you've spent $4800 at the end of new years eve.
This may end up being pretty useful for 2022 qualification, as long as one can accumulate the SQD spend required. If AC lowers the SQM/SQS and SQD requirement for 2022 qualification, as AA has done, even better.
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Old Nov 28, 2020, 8:56 am
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Sorry if this has been asked before, but when booking flights and you see a mixed cabin itinerary I can't see which legs are in what class. I'm able to see the class if I click through the booking process, but not when I start the search and see all the options.

Thanks.
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Old Nov 28, 2020, 9:12 am
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Oddly just got a global error message when trying to book on points. Tried a cash fare and got the the payment page without much difficulty however. Looks like I’ll have to call in.
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Old Nov 28, 2020, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by Twickenham
Any reason you have to route via MUC? I'm seeing a nice YYZ-ZRH-PMO itinerary on LX for your date.
Thanks for flagging, must have missed that one. Ended up booking through ZRH and got it all on the same award ticket and in J
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Old Nov 28, 2020, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by mikeycanuk
Oddly just got a global error message when trying to book on points. Tried a cash fare and got the the payment page without much difficulty however. Looks like I’ll have to call in.

If you are talking about the error message right before the RBC insurance quote, ignore it and keep scrolling, you will see booking options.

I just made two new bookings no problem.
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