Air Canada moving to Amadeus; Communication issues with AP/AC post-migration result
#1156
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto, Ont., Canada
Programs: Aeroplan; Marriott Platinum; IHG Platinum; Best Western Diamond
Posts: 2,165
checked the 3 of us into YYZ Intl MLL this morning before our flight to Mexico.
Agent asked what about the 4th passenger on your PNR?
Umm, no. There are 3 of us split on 2 PNRs (2-aeroplan, 1-paid).
Agent insists the 3 of us plus another member with a totally different name are on the same PNR. Proceeds to half-show me the screen. The 4th passenger is from Germany, with a very different last name. They are originated from Munich, connecting to our same destination in Mexico.
Agent asked what about the 4th passenger on your PNR?
Umm, no. There are 3 of us split on 2 PNRs (2-aeroplan, 1-paid).
Agent insists the 3 of us plus another member with a totally different name are on the same PNR. Proceeds to half-show me the screen. The 4th passenger is from Germany, with a very different last name. They are originated from Munich, connecting to our same destination in Mexico.
#1157
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,255
checked the 3 of us into YYZ Intl MLL this morning before our flight to Mexico.
Agent asked what about the 4th passenger on your PNR?
Umm, no. There are 3 of us split on 2 PNRs (2-aeroplan, 1-paid).
Agent insists the 3 of us plus another member with a totally different name are on the same PNR. Proceeds to half-show me the screen. The 4th passenger is from Germany, with a very different last name. They are originated from Munich, connecting to our same destination in Mexico.
Agent asked what about the 4th passenger on your PNR?
Umm, no. There are 3 of us split on 2 PNRs (2-aeroplan, 1-paid).
Agent insists the 3 of us plus another member with a totally different name are on the same PNR. Proceeds to half-show me the screen. The 4th passenger is from Germany, with a very different last name. They are originated from Munich, connecting to our same destination in Mexico.
They work at the airport; you're wrong.
#1158
Join Date: May 2014
Location: YYJ/YYT
Programs: AC 75K (*G), NEXUS
Posts: 652
Did you dummy book it on the website? I got as far as payment on a 7 segment itinerary via the AC website but then it errored out (code BRD_ORD_001). An AC phone agent reconstructed the same itinerary and apparently the system could not assign the fare to the booking.
#1159
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYT/YYC/TPE
Programs: AC SE, UA, National Exec Elite, Nexus, GE
Posts: 1,810
Even if you can't book it consistently on the website, there are still other ways around it.
#1160
Join Date: May 2014
Location: YYJ/YYT
Programs: AC 75K (*G), NEXUS
Posts: 652
I have to give credit where credit is due; the (NB-based?) agent was very patient, competent and determined and was able to save everything under a booking ref. The system issue arose when he tried to assign the fare to the booking.
#1161
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYT/YYC/TPE
Programs: AC SE, UA, National Exec Elite, Nexus, GE
Posts: 1,810
Thanks, I'm using Matrix ITA and feeding it to the AC website. The only other way that I know of is to phone in which didn't work this time. Are there any other ways
I have to give credit where credit is due; the (NB-based?) agent was very patient, competent and determined and was able to save everything under a booking ref. The system issue arose when he tried to assign the fare to the booking.
I have to give credit where credit is due; the (NB-based?) agent was very patient, competent and determined and was able to save everything under a booking ref. The system issue arose when he tried to assign the fare to the booking.
#1162
Join Date: May 2014
Location: YYJ/YYT
Programs: AC 75K (*G), NEXUS
Posts: 652
I have found the YQM based reservations agents are the ones who have been able to book my complex itineraries within 10 minutes in the past during the RES III days. I'm also not surprised they would try to do everything they can to get your itineraries booked even with all the Amadeus issues. Once they learn to master the new system, they will be the best ones in the AC network.
#1164
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC 35K, SPG GOLD
Posts: 264
The agent at the international business class checkin found my disappeared second leg on Swiss in 1 minute. Check me in for both and off to the lounge. She said she's getting way better at fixing the problems. So that's good.
#1165
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYT/YYC/TPE
Programs: AC SE, UA, National Exec Elite, Nexus, GE
Posts: 1,810
At the airport, when the check-in agents print your boarding passes, they'll re-establish the links.
There are so many things that broke during the migration process. It makes the entire migration appear as if they were performed without any consultation with AC's resident RES III experts on what needed to happen or what information is critical to be transferred over.
#1166
Join Date: Apr 2013
Programs: Yes, I belong.
Posts: 361
Booked a min-RTW recently and learning new things:
- PNRs were changed: new PNR matches up with other airlines now. Yay!
- Can't access reward seats: currently on hold now for 2.5h to change a segment form Y to J. It's available on expertflyer and AP website.
- 1st call: "I am sorry, but sometimes it shows available but it isn't" "Can you provide me a more technical reason?" "Well, sometimes you see it's available, but then when you go to book it, it isn't" Definitely an agent to HUCA
- Interim: use AP app to go all the way to the payment page. Looks like it's available.
- 2nd call: Same as above, but agent more knowledgable. Says that she's sending it off to ticketing, but it'll be 90 mins. She puts me on to another agent, since her shift is ending in 20 mins.
- 3rd (current) call: Seemingly knowledgeable agent. I attempt to purchase again on the app -- he doubts it'll work -- and I actually proceed though to payment and receive an e-ticket and PNR! However, he's unable to take those seats and use them for my original booking, which he informed me of before I completed the purchase. He puts me on hold and returns to tell me the reason he's unable to is because I am only attempting to change one segment, but the system is trying to look for availability for the entire leg (i.e. 3 segments) in J. Placed on hold again. After refunding that new purchase, he comes back and says that he'll try again but now he can't access those seats, despite me being able to initiate yet another checkout. He uses language from first call, which gets me a little stern: "It's not that the seats aren't there and can't be booked. We just tested if they are available and were successful in making a purchase -- you saw this yourself. And I'm able to initiate another purchase. It's not magic, we empirically tested if they are actually available and they are." Now on hold for supervisor, since we have other flights in our itinerary that we might change for the same reason. Uggh!
#1167
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYT/YYC/TPE
Programs: AC SE, UA, National Exec Elite, Nexus, GE
Posts: 1,810
Thanks, I'm using Matrix ITA and feeding it to the AC website. The only other way that I know of is to phone in which didn't work this time. Are there any other ways
I have to give credit where credit is due; the (NB-based?) agent was very patient, competent and determined and was able to save everything under a booking ref. The system issue arose when he tried to assign the fare to the booking.
I have to give credit where credit is due; the (NB-based?) agent was very patient, competent and determined and was able to save everything under a booking ref. The system issue arose when he tried to assign the fare to the booking.
I used Matrix PowerTools to do this. I did it on a Latitude fare, so I don't know if that made a difference.
If you are getting an error at the payment stage, it is possible that the inventory you were going for was gone. With married segments, you can only really verify three segments at once, so you have no way of knowing whether you really have the inventory all the way through.
But the main point is that you can still book more than six segments on one fare, as long as the fare rule allows it.
#1168
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,255
"Travel Document" email from "YTO Contact Center"
Another "feature", in addition to having a PDF of your booking emailed to you via the call centre agent or for your account, is that the call centre agent can send you a travel agency "Travel Document" style email (think of those courier font text printouts of your booking) of your booking with the header name and address showing "YTO Contact Center" (American spelling). The email also has a link to CheckMyTrip. Although insignificant, I thought that was kind of neat.
#1169
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,777
So, who exactly decided to do the migration just before winter weather gets really bad?
#1170
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYT/YYC/TPE
Programs: AC SE, UA, National Exec Elite, Nexus, GE
Posts: 1,810