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Old Oct 3, 2016, 9:53 pm
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Note: please keep this thread to information on the refurbishment program and its progress; for discussion of which seats are best and other details about the interiors, please visit the seating information thread.

A330-300 Fleet Overview

AC currently has two configurations of 333:
  • Dream Cabin (16 aircraft): Latest 3-class configuration in line with the 787 and 777 fleets (seat map)
  • The "Merlions" (2 aircraft): ex-Singapore Airlines 2-class configuration (seat map), which are expected to be reconfigured to the Dream Cabin.
    • Important note: the front cabin on these aircraft is an angle-flat product in a 2-2-2 layout that was SQ's "regional" business class. On flights within North America, AC sells it as J; on international flights, they sell it as PY. These aircraft do not have the standard AC PY cabin
    • Since October 2023, these aircraft primarily operate YYZ>BOG>YUL triangle, and YUL<>LAX.
Status of Dream Cabin Refurbishment

Code:
32J 24O 241Y: 297 pax
C-GFAF (931) Completed @HKG, Oct 01/23 - Dec 09/23 [69 days]
C-GFAH (932) Completed @QPG, Aug 10/21 - Oct 05/21 [56 days]
C-GFAJ (933) Completed @QPG, Nov 24/21 - Jan 12/22 [49 days]
C-GFUR (934) Completed @QPG, Oct 08/19 - Feb 28/20 [143 days]
C-GHKR (935) Completed @QPG, Oct 04/21 - Nov 25/21 [52 days]
C-GHKW (936) Completed @HKG, Nov 27/21 - Feb 21/22 [86 days]
C-GHKX (937) Completed @RFD, Sep 02/20 - May 30/21 [271 days]
C-GHLM (938) Completed @HKG, Sep 30/22 - Dec 11/22 [72 days]
C-GEFA (939) Completed @RFD, Dec 31/20 - Mar 29/21 [89 days]
C-GEGC (940) Completed @QPG, May 17/22 - Jul 21/22 [67 days]
C-GEGI (941) Completed @QPG, Jan 10/22 - Mar 11/22 [60 days]
C-GEGP (942) Completed @QPG, Nov 06/19 - Jul 01/20 [238 days]
C-GHKC (943) Completed @HKG, Feb 21/22 - May 05/22 [73 days]
C-GKUG (944) Completed @QPG, Mar 02/20 - Feb 10/21 [345 days]
C-GKUH (945) Completed @RFD, Oct 08/20 - Jan 12/21 [99 days]
C-GOFV (946) SQ configuration
C-GOFW (947) Completed @QPG, Feb 03/22 - May 20/22 [107 days]
C-GXZD (948) SQ configuration
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Old Feb 22, 2022, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by yvr76
Is this a feature of all refurbed 330s?
AFAIK, yes.

Originally Posted by doc4science
I've got a flight on an AC A330 later this year (DEC 2022) and the seat map appears to show the old config. If I'm reading this thread correctly odds are that it will end up being a retrofitted aircraft, correct?


It’s safe to bet that all will be done by the end of the year.
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Old Feb 22, 2022, 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by doc4science
I've got a flight on an AC A330 later this year (DEC 2022) and the seat map appears to show the old config. If I'm reading this thread correctly odds are that it will end up being a retrofitted aircraft, correct?
Yeah... even if there's still 2 in the old config by that time (unlikely) then you'd still be most likely to get an updated ride. And even that presumes that it's still in an A330 by then, which isn't certain given how far off it is.

All the seat maps (AFAIK) out at the end of the year are showing the old config, so they have no bearing on what you'll end up on.

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Old Feb 23, 2022, 7:57 am
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Well, I flew the reconfigured A330 to and from Florida this weekend in J and PY. First impressions... pretty good!

For J, it's basically an improved version of the 777/787 seat, just with a bit less space. Overall I wouldn't say it's any better or worse than those seats, unless traveling in a pair and selecting D/G seats, where the flexible divider is great.

PY is just better than that of the 787/777 all around. More storage, better screen, more comfortable seat (and especially headrest)... not a whole different league, but definitely a step up. I'm 6'1 and had no problem getting comfortable and sleeping, even without a pillow or blanket.

Obviously, Y is a lot better than on the Boeing widebodies, especially for those travelling in pairs.
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Old Mar 17, 2022, 6:56 am
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FIN 941 came back from QPG on March 11 (Wiki updated). There is only one frame left in all cargo configuration and 5 of 8 of the former SQ birds and 6 of 8 of AC's original birds have now been refurbished.
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Old Mar 20, 2022, 5:41 pm
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For flights between LA-YYZ on the A330, which door does AC usually use to board the plane? Also is one of the lavatories in J larger? Seems like the one upfront by the cockpit will be larger than the two rear lavatories.
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Old Mar 20, 2022, 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Jimgotkp
For flights between LA-YYZ on the A330, which door does AC usually use to board the plane? Also is one of the lavatories in J larger? Seems like the one upfront by the cockpit will be larger than the two rear lavatories.
Pretty sure they always use the second door. Those in J turn left on entry and those in Y don't even pass through the J cabin. This is the case at all airports AC flies the A330 to AFAIK.
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Old Mar 20, 2022, 6:21 pm
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Originally Posted by codfather
Pretty sure they always use the second door. Those in J turn left on entry and those in Y don't even pass through the J cabin. This is the case at all airports AC flies the A330 to AFAIK.
Believe that all of the wide bodies have the ability to connect to a dual jetway where both L1 and L2 are used - L1 for J and L2 for everyone else. Airports that have single jetways would most commonly use L2.
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Old Mar 20, 2022, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
Believe that all of the wide bodies have the ability to connect to a dual jetway where both L1 and L2 are used - L1 for J and L2 for everyone else. Airports that have single jetways would most commonly use L2.
Yup, you're right. I haven't seen them connect both jetways very often, though I don't doubt that they would do it where it can happen. I can't imagine it speeds up the boarding process much like it does on the A380...
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Old Mar 20, 2022, 6:56 pm
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I've been on several wide-body flights to YYZ where we deplaned using L1 only (meaning everyone passed through the J cabin on their way out).

I believe the gates were D43, D44 or D45.
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Old Mar 20, 2022, 9:32 pm
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L1, L2, or both. It depends.
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Old Mar 22, 2022, 11:09 am
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What happened to the Wiki?
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Old Mar 22, 2022, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
What happened to the Wiki?
It was massively out of date, with a bunch of irrelevant information about the SQ layout and the old refurb that added PY. It carried a notice that @yyznomad would update it by mid-2020. So I nuked it. If there was anything that wasn't old and totally useless in there, feel free to restore those portions.
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Old Mar 22, 2022, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
It was massively out of date, with a bunch of irrelevant information about the SQ layout and the old refurb that added PY. It carried a notice that @yyznomad would update it by mid-2020. So I nuked it. If there was anything that wasn't old and totally useless in there, feel free to restore those portions.
How about restoring just the refurbishment portion - liked having that available.
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Old Mar 22, 2022, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
How about restoring just the refurbishment portion - liked having that available.
What refurbishment portion? When I skim read it, everything I saw was the refurb to add PY (completed years ago) and a zillion details on the ex-SQ cabins, which are all gone. If I missed something that was current and useful, you have far more than the requisite 90 days and 90 posts on FT to edit the wiki...
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Old Mar 22, 2022, 1:07 pm
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
How about restoring just the refurbishment portion - liked having that available.
Originally Posted by Adam Smith
What refurbishment portion? When I skim read it, everything I saw was the refurb to add PY (completed years ago) and a zillion details on the ex-SQ cabins, which are all gone. If I missed something that was current and useful, you have far more than the requisite 90 days and 90 posts on FT to edit the wiki...
Adam Smith, I think EdmFlyBoi is saying the tracker for Dream Cabin refurbishment.

I thought there are still 2 birds out there in the Classic Pod config (FIN 931 and another one???)
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