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Note: please keep this thread to information on the refurbishment program and its progress; for discussion of which seats are best and other details about the interiors, please visit the seating information thread.

A330-300 Fleet Overview

AC currently has two configurations of 333:
  • Dream Cabin (16 aircraft): Latest 3-class configuration in line with the 787 and 777 fleets (seat map)
  • The "Merlions" (2 aircraft): ex-Singapore Airlines 2-class configuration (seat map), which are expected to be reconfigured to the Dream Cabin.
    • Important note: the front cabin on these aircraft is an angle-flat product in a 2-2-2 layout that was SQ's "regional" business class. On flights within North America, AC sells it as J; on international flights, they sell it as PY. These aircraft do not have the standard AC PY cabin
    • Since October 2023, these aircraft primarily operate YYZ>BOG>YUL triangle, and YUL<>LAX.
Status of Dream Cabin Refurbishment

Code:
32J 24O 241Y: 297 pax
C-GFAF (931) Completed @HKG, Oct 01/23 - Dec 09/23 [69 days]
C-GFAH (932) Completed @QPG, Aug 10/21 - Oct 05/21 [56 days]
C-GFAJ (933) Completed @QPG, Nov 24/21 - Jan 12/22 [49 days]
C-GFUR (934) Completed @QPG, Oct 08/19 - Feb 28/20 [143 days]
C-GHKR (935) Completed @QPG, Oct 04/21 - Nov 25/21 [52 days]
C-GHKW (936) Completed @HKG, Nov 27/21 - Feb 21/22 [86 days]
C-GHKX (937) Completed @RFD, Sep 02/20 - May 30/21 [271 days]
C-GHLM (938) Completed @HKG, Sep 30/22 - Dec 11/22 [72 days]
C-GEFA (939) Completed @RFD, Dec 31/20 - Mar 29/21 [89 days]
C-GEGC (940) Completed @QPG, May 17/22 - Jul 21/22 [67 days]
C-GEGI (941) Completed @QPG, Jan 10/22 - Mar 11/22 [60 days]
C-GEGP (942) Completed @QPG, Nov 06/19 - Jul 01/20 [238 days]
C-GHKC (943) Completed @HKG, Feb 21/22 - May 05/22 [73 days]
C-GKUG (944) Completed @QPG, Mar 02/20 - Feb 10/21 [345 days]
C-GKUH (945) Completed @RFD, Oct 08/20 - Jan 12/21 [99 days]
C-GOFV (946) SQ configuration
C-GOFW (947) Completed @QPG, Feb 03/22 - May 20/22 [107 days]
C-GXZD (948) SQ configuration
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Old May 5, 2022, 1:10 pm
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Had my first ride in refurb'd A330 J on Apr 18 YVR-YYZ. Originally was a 787 I believe but got swapped to A330 a month out.

Definitely smaller than the 787/777 pods. Notable in the feet room and the shoulders. I don't think they're a big issue to the point of avoiding them for shorter flights. The humidity regulation was a bigger issue for me. Maybe it's an issue with all A330 (experienced it on the TK cabin as well) but the air was very dry! It'll suck for transatlantic routes (I'll be on this both ways for a trip to Lisbon in Oct) but could be worse.

Also not sure if this was an one off case but the middle seat divider did not latch shut/open for us. It'd slam close during take off, and slam open during landing.
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Old May 5, 2022, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by mapleg
Any thoughts on the best J seat for solo traveler? Right now I have seat 1A reserved on YYZ-VCE and same on the return.

Any issues with the front seats or should I move further back (I think I read row 8 has no windows but not sure if any other seats have issues). ?

Thanks
And our crew closets would be right in front of you, and they are near impossible to open without making some noise. Trying to let you sleep...
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Old May 5, 2022, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by mynameisdmoon
Definitely smaller than the 787/777 pods. Notable in the feet room and the shoulders. I don't think they're a big issue to the point of avoiding them for shorter flights. The humidity regulation was a bigger issue for me. Maybe it's an issue with all A330 (experienced it on the TK cabin as well) but the air was very dry! It'll suck for transatlantic routes (I'll be on this both ways for a trip to Lisbon in Oct) but could be worse.
The A330's cabin is not particularly dry relative to other previous-gen aircraft. If it's really an issue, you'll have to seek out a 787 when flying AC.
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Old May 5, 2022, 5:44 pm
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Booking a last min biz trip. What are my chances of getting stuck on an old non-refurb A330 on the CPH-YYZ route in two weeks from now?
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Old May 5, 2022, 7:36 pm
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Sitting on AC184 right now

It was a 777 and swapped to a 330. I guess I always assumed trolleys were the same across the widebodies. Currently at a 60 minute delay due to equipment swap and they needed new trolleys and had to reload the plane
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Old May 5, 2022, 10:25 pm
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Looks like FIN 938 (C-GHLM) has been flown to Hong Kong, which leaves FIN 931 as the only active 330 operating passenger flights with the non-refurbished cabin.
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Old May 5, 2022, 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by czmuac
Looks like FIN 938 (C-GHLM) has been flown to Hong Kong, which leaves FIN 931 as the only active 330 operating passenger flights with the non-refurbished cabin.
I have a flight in July with the old cabin shown in the seat selection. Is the FIN number known/visible this far in advance? I don't/didn't end up in J all that often, but I haven't seen the old cabin in years. Would be slightly nostalgic.
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Old May 5, 2022, 10:48 pm
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Originally Posted by vancouver25k
Is the FIN number known/visible this far in advance?
No. Even if AC showed any FINs this far out (which they don't - you can see it in the app ~3 days before your flight), those aren't reliable more than a few hours in advance.
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Old May 6, 2022, 8:50 am
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Fin 943 is back.
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Old May 6, 2022, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by czmuac
Looks like FIN 938 (C-GHLM) has been flown to Hong Kong, which leaves FIN 931 as the only active 330 operating passenger flights with the non-refurbished cabin.
Wiki updated.
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Old May 6, 2022, 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by MSP_Monopoly
Booking a last min biz trip. What are my chances of getting stuck on an old non-refurb A330 on the CPH-YYZ route in two weeks from now?

​​​​​​​Almost non existent. They only have one in the fleet.

Check the seat map when booking and ensure J is the new one (ie 1-2-1 seating)
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Old May 6, 2022, 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by MSP_Monopoly
Booking a last min biz trip. What are my chances of getting stuck on an old non-refurb A330 on the CPH-YYZ route in two weeks from now?
931 is the only FIN left in the old configuration. It has mostly done transcons the last little while. It did YUL-GVA-YUL on Apr 30/May 1 and YYZ-BOG-YUL on May 2/3 (actually only the 3 as it left YYZ almost 2 hours late). It is scheduled to Punta Cana on May 8. It is a bit unusual that it did a trip across the pond as 931 (and 938 before it went for refurb) were doing most transcons, Florida, Mexico, and the Caribbean. I suspect 931 will go for refurb as soon as 947 comes back from QPG which I reckon should be shortly as she's been there a while. Apart from that there is 940 which is still hauling cargo. She's likely to go for refurb once there are is another 767F in the fleet. AC is almost done the A330's and hopefully the A321's start their turn.
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Old May 10, 2022, 10:19 pm
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BCN -> YUL June 13

Looking at the seatmap, it looks like the plane will be using the old Pod configuration. What are there chances there's an equipment change to one of the refurbed A330s?
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Old May 11, 2022, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by 145f
Looking at the seatmap, it looks like the plane will be using the old Pod configuration. What are there chances there's an equipment change to one of the refurbed A330s?
Well, at this moment, looking at AC823 for June 13 BCNYUL on EF, it's showing the new DreamCabin/refurbed config 1-2-1.

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Old May 11, 2022, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by mynameisdmoon
Had my first ride in refurb'd A330 J on Apr 18 YVR-YYZ. Originally was a 787 I believe but got swapped to A330 a month out.

Definitely smaller than the 787/777 pods. Notable in the feet room and the shoulders. I don't think they're a big issue to the point of avoiding them for shorter flights. The humidity regulation was a bigger issue for me. Maybe it's an issue with all A330 (experienced it on the TK cabin as well) but the air was very dry! It'll suck for transatlantic routes (I'll be on this both ways for a trip to Lisbon in Oct) but could be worse.

Also not sure if this was an one off case but the middle seat divider did not latch shut/open for us. It'd slam close during take off, and slam open during landing.
They don’t stay in place. I usually just fold up a napkin and shove it at the bottom of the divider. That keeps it in place really well.

The A330 is my preferred plane when travelling with a companion - because of the movable divider.
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