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Old Oct 3, 2016, 9:53 pm
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Note: please keep this thread to information on the refurbishment program and its progress; for discussion of which seats are best and other details about the interiors, please visit the seating information thread.

A330-300 Fleet Overview

AC currently has two configurations of 333:
  • Dream Cabin (16 aircraft): Latest 3-class configuration in line with the 787 and 777 fleets (seat map)
  • The "Merlions" (2 aircraft): ex-Singapore Airlines 2-class configuration (seat map), which are expected to be reconfigured to the Dream Cabin.
    • Important note: the front cabin on these aircraft is an angle-flat product in a 2-2-2 layout that was SQ's "regional" business class. On flights within North America, AC sells it as J; on international flights, they sell it as PY. These aircraft do not have the standard AC PY cabin
    • Since October 2023, these aircraft primarily operate YYZ>BOG>YUL triangle, and YUL<>LAX.
Status of Dream Cabin Refurbishment

Code:
32J 24O 241Y: 297 pax
C-GFAF (931) Completed @HKG, Oct 01/23 - Dec 09/23 [69 days]
C-GFAH (932) Completed @QPG, Aug 10/21 - Oct 05/21 [56 days]
C-GFAJ (933) Completed @QPG, Nov 24/21 - Jan 12/22 [49 days]
C-GFUR (934) Completed @QPG, Oct 08/19 - Feb 28/20 [143 days]
C-GHKR (935) Completed @QPG, Oct 04/21 - Nov 25/21 [52 days]
C-GHKW (936) Completed @HKG, Nov 27/21 - Feb 21/22 [86 days]
C-GHKX (937) Completed @RFD, Sep 02/20 - May 30/21 [271 days]
C-GHLM (938) Completed @HKG, Sep 30/22 - Dec 11/22 [72 days]
C-GEFA (939) Completed @RFD, Dec 31/20 - Mar 29/21 [89 days]
C-GEGC (940) Completed @QPG, May 17/22 - Jul 21/22 [67 days]
C-GEGI (941) Completed @QPG, Jan 10/22 - Mar 11/22 [60 days]
C-GEGP (942) Completed @QPG, Nov 06/19 - Jul 01/20 [238 days]
C-GHKC (943) Completed @HKG, Feb 21/22 - May 05/22 [73 days]
C-GKUG (944) Completed @QPG, Mar 02/20 - Feb 10/21 [345 days]
C-GKUH (945) Completed @RFD, Oct 08/20 - Jan 12/21 [99 days]
C-GOFV (946) SQ configuration
C-GOFW (947) Completed @QPG, Feb 03/22 - May 20/22 [107 days]
C-GXZD (948) SQ configuration
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Old Jul 29, 2022, 7:51 pm
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YYZ - BCN change to FIN 931

I'm flying on July 31 from YYZ to BCN and I booked my seats (1 K, D, G) months in advance. Logged on today to see if AC has been playing suspicious, and to my surprise, they switched the plane to the only old config (FIN 931) for a European flight. I read earlier that FIN 931 was mostly flying within NA and the Caribbean. What are the changes of the aircraft changing at boarding/closer to check in/last minute? If the seat that changed from 1D > 1A goes back to the new config, would it automatically go back to 1D or a random assignment? We are flying as a family with a child if that makes any difference.
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Old Jul 30, 2022, 12:16 am
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Update on my FIN 931 flight from VCE-YYZ:

- the app shows me several spots lower and the handful of people ahead of me are presumably the 5-6 people who were squeezed out of J due to the aircraft swap.

- Glad I switched back to row 13 as there is no row 15 in the old configuration. I am curious as to what would have happened to all the passengers who selected row 15. Bump those according to status, time of check-in?

- had I more time, I would have offered up my seat and asked for a reroute through FRA, ZRH, MUC, etc., but when I checked EF, many of those flights going to YYZ were zeroed out as well.
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Old Jul 30, 2022, 1:03 am
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I'm flying FIN 931 on Sunday from YYZ to BCN and the new config is the old one. Any chance you think they'll do a last minute change on these old layouts and switch back to the newer J class?
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Old Aug 4, 2022, 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer_sam
I'm flying FIN 931 on Sunday from YYZ to BCN and the new config is the old one. Any chance you think they'll do a last minute change on these old layouts and switch back to the newer J class?
I think you were lucky in the end! How was your trip in new config?
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Old Aug 9, 2022, 11:21 am
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Having just taken my first flight on a refurb where I actually wanted to sleep, I think I'd rather the cushions as roughly in line with a deflated pod.
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Old Aug 14, 2022, 3:45 pm
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Ac738 Aug 16 shows fn 931 with new config seat map, has this plane finally refurbished?
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Old Aug 14, 2022, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by hourglass
Ac738 Aug 16 shows fn 931 with new config seat map, has this plane finally refurbished?
Probably a glitch - FIN931 is still in the old config.
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Old Aug 15, 2022, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by czmuac
Probably a glitch - FIN931 is still in the old config.
I can confirm that 931 is still in old config of blue pods. Flew this FIN Friday 12AUG YUL-LYS AC 876.
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Old Aug 15, 2022, 9:46 am
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I had a YVR-YYZ last month that I think was going to be 931, but it got replaced by another aircraft. I know people think the old pods are getting pretty tired, but I've only ever flown them a couple of times so was really looking forward to seeing one again!
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Old Aug 15, 2022, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by hourglass
Ac738 Aug 16 shows fn 931 with new config seat map, has this plane finally refurbished?
It's now showing FIN 937. So probably seat map got updated but the ID of the plane had not yet been changed.
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Old Aug 16, 2022, 1:55 am
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Where do we see if it was refurbished or the FIn number?
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Old Aug 16, 2022, 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by Joroy70
Where do we see if it was refurbished or the FIn number?
If you look up the flight status in the app, it shows the FIN. The wiki says 931 and 938 are the old config.
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Old Aug 18, 2022, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by thereisnoaddress
oh hey, I’m on the return leg of that flight back to YYZ now! I can’t believe it; on my one week Europe trip, I flew both of the non-refurbished 333s. What are the odds! Did you get bumped in the end?

On this flight, there are three couples travelling together, and all of their husbands got bumped / volunteered to go back to Y / PY. The wives are complaining because 4A and 9A are empty (probably due to seat problems?) and asking why their husbands couldn’t sit there.
Oh hey, just revisiting this thread now, missed your reply when you posted it. Everything worked out for us luckily, we did not get bumped, possibly because we were booked directly into J on flexible Aeroplan tickets. Wife and I both had functional seats luckily. Hope your flight also went well!
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Old Sep 2, 2022, 6:09 pm
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I'm flying on AC 738/743 in a couple of weeks (These are early morning SFO-YYZ, and 5pm return) on the 330. Looks like its often, though not 100% of the time, one of the two old 330s. I suspect this is not an accident? When looking up new reservations on my date, seat maps show 9 rows in C. Am I right to think this is the standard config for this flight, and that they will block the extra row in C so not to overbook in case of a layout change, or do they just book to capacity if they can, and deal with downgrades, etc, later?

Hoping to get a new config, but I suspect I should expect the old? Anyway to tell prior which one we'll get? I know flight status (on the app) used to show the FINs scheduled, but at least right now, I can't see that info. for any flight I've checked.

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Old Sep 14, 2022, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by NordsFan
I can confirm that 931 is still in old config of blue pods. Flew this FIN Friday 12AUG YUL-LYS AC 876.
Wait, so YUL-LYS is the old angled business class seats? No flat seats?
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