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Air Canada Airbus A330-300 refurbishments

Old Oct 3, 2016, 10:53 pm
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Note: please keep this thread to information on the refurbishment program and its progress; for discussion of which seats are best and other details about the interiors, please visit the seating information thread.

A330-300 Fleet Overview

AC currently has three two configurations of 333:
  • Dream Cabin (16 aircraft): new configuration more in line with the product on AC's 787 and 777 fleets (seat map)
  • XM: AC's old configuration dating from the mid-2000s, which is being phased out (seat map)
  • SQ (2 aircraft): Singapore Airlines configuration, which is being phased out (seat map)
    • Important note: the front cabin on these aircraft is an angle-flat product in a 2-2-2 layout that was SQ's "regional" business class. On flights within North America, AC sells it as J; on international flights, they sell it as PY. These aircraft do not have a normal PY cabin
    • As of October 2023, these aircraft appear to be mostly used on YYZ/YUL-BOG, YUL-ALG, and domestic/TB TCONs (e.g. YUL-YVR/LAX)

The aircraft are gradually being refurbished to the Dream Cabin standard.


Status of Dream Cabin Refurbishment

Code:
32J 24O 241Y: 297 pax
C-GFAF (931) Completed @HKG, Oct 01/23 - Dec 09/23 [69 days]
C-GFAH (932) Completed @QPG, Aug 10/21 - Oct 05/21 [56 days]
C-GFAJ (933) Completed @QPG, Nov 24/21 - Jan 12/22 [49 days]
C-GFUR (934) Completed @QPG, Oct 08/19 - Feb 28/20 [143 days]
C-GHKR (935) Completed @QPG, Oct 04/21 - Nov 25/21 [52 days]
C-GHKW (936) Completed @HKG, Nov 27/21 - Feb 21/22 [86 days]
C-GHKX (937) Completed @RFD, Sep 02/20 - May 30/21 [271 days]
C-GHLM (938) Completed @HKG, Sep 30/22 - Dec 11/22 [72 days]
C-GEFA (939) Completed @RFD, Dec 31/20 - Mar 29/21 [89 days]
C-GEGC (940) Completed @QPG, May 17/22 - Jul 21/22 [67 days]
C-GEGI (941) Completed @QPG, Jan 10/22 - Mar 11/22 [60 days]
C-GEGP (942) Completed @QPG, Nov 06/19 - Jul 01/20 [238 days]
C-GHKC (943) Completed @HKG, Feb 21/22 - May 05/22 [73 days]
C-GKUG (944) Completed @QPG, Mar 02/20 - Feb 10/21 [345 days]
C-GKUH (945) Completed @RFD, Oct 08/20 - Jan 12/21 [99 days]
C-GOFV (946) SQ configuration
C-GOFW (947) Completed @QPG, Feb 03/22 - May 20/22 [107 days]
C-GXZD (948) Was SQ configuration; TBD [Either maintenance or refurb @MZJ, Nov 08/23 - Jan 20/24 [73 days]]
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Air Canada Airbus A330-300 refurbishments

Old Jun 8, 2016, 9:33 pm
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This makes me sad because the middle J seat in the back mini cabin is the best classic J pod on the AC fleet.

I've sat in it a few hundred times, it's got extra room.
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Old Jun 8, 2016, 11:09 pm
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Originally Posted by yulred
Source?

JL is operating 787s with 2-4-2 and 34" pitch. Long way away from the 3-3-3 31" AC 787 and the 30-31" we're going to see on these AC 330s.

AC's 789's are 30-31" pitch (mostly 30"). The few 788's in use remain at 31" (all new deliveries are the stretched 789 variant now).
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Old Jun 9, 2016, 11:53 am
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It is a great airplane to work and had always hoped that the Company would have acquired more.
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Old Jun 9, 2016, 12:02 pm
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hey ACYYZ/SD what makes you say that the A330 is a great plane to work with?
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Old Jun 9, 2016, 12:05 pm
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From a working point of view - well laid out spacious galleys, supplies always within reach, pax:lav ratio is decent, have experienced few mechanicals on this aircraft and love the solid ride. Only drawback is the lack of centre bins in the "A" cabin, but the decision was made early on to keep the cabin more airy and avoid the feeling of being boxed in. That was before the days of cabin bag mania. Having said that -- we always work it out.
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Old Jun 9, 2016, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Sean Peever
This makes me sad because the middle J seat in the back mini cabin is the best classic J pod on the AC fleet.

I've sat in it a few hundred times, it's got extra room.
Agreed, I have waxed nostalgic about the AC 333 mini-J several times in this forum. Favourite seat on my favourite bird. Even Y was (is?) comfortable and you would get the extra J main courses as an elite sitting in the first Y rows, at least on 870/871 in the early 2000s. Should be long enough ago to not get anybody fired by AC for doing a good job!

They should have bottled that service and layout, was a winner and pretty consistent across flights which was unusual for AC.

Finally from the plane geek in me, that wing and the Rolls engines was something else at the time from an aesthetic standpoint, not qualified to comment on performance obviously.

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Old Jun 9, 2016, 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD
From a working point of view - well laid out spacious galleys, supplies always within reach, pax:lav ratio is decent, have experienced few mechanicals on this aircraft and love the solid ride. Only drawback is the lack of centre bins in the "A" cabin, but the decision was made early on to keep the cabin more airy and avoid the feeling of being boxed in. That was before the days of cabin bag mania. Having said that -- we always work it out.
I have to say I always enjoyed the airy feeling it gave, and rarely (if ever?) had an issue with my bags, so in my books it was a good choice. I can see from an SD's point of view it would be a worry though!
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Old Jun 9, 2016, 1:17 pm
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Have sat in Y on the 333 a number of times and it is definitely one of the most comfortable Y seats on AC Aircraft, perhaps with the exception of the Embraer's. Especially when you're lucky enough to get a "2" to yourself.
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Old Jun 9, 2016, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
I have never been on a flight where the mini cabin is closed off. Plus, I have never been moved to the front cabin if the loads are light.
On my latest YVR/YUL return, I saw a family of three moved up to the main J cabin (quite happily), and on the return a single gentleman was moved up. None of these people seemed angry.

I've seen it several times actually.
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Old Jun 9, 2016, 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by expert7700
AC's 789's are 30-31" pitch (mostly 30").
Cite?

My understanding is that most seats on the 789 have 31" pitch with 30" pitch being used for rows 18-29 HJK due to presence of the lav in front of door 3R. 36 out of 247 Y seats is hardly "mostly".

(Not implying that AC's Y on the 787 is spacious mind you.)
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Old Jun 9, 2016, 9:27 pm
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If J and PY has new seats, but Y has old seats, how would the IFE system work? Don't they have to replace the IFE in Y seats to ensure consistency? Then wouldn't they have to replace all the Y seats?


Edit: nvm just saw J is staying the same. Ignore my post.
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Old Jun 9, 2016, 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by cooleddie
If J and PY has new seats, but Y has old seats, how would the IFE system work? Don't they have to replace the IFE in Y seats to ensure consistency? Then wouldn't they have to replace all the Y seats?


Edit: nvm just saw J is staying the same. Ignore my post.
I asked the same thing up thread. The question is still valid (and unanswered)... They're not likely to use the old IFE in the new PY seats.
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Old Jun 10, 2016, 5:20 am
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Originally Posted by The Lev
Cite?

My understanding is that most seats on the 789 have 31" pitch with 30" pitch being used for rows 18-29 HJK due to presence of the lav in front of door 3R. 36 out of 247 Y seats is hardly "mostly".

(Not implying that AC's Y on the 787 is spacious mind you.)
There are many more 30" pitch seats. The last few ABC rows of seats in the front Y cabin are 30", and most of the ABC/HJK rows in the rear Y cabin are also 30". Most of the DEG Y seats seem to be 31".

The information is buried in the massive 787 thread.
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Old Jun 10, 2016, 9:41 am
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Do you think they will replace the carpets, and give the cabin a thorough cleaning ?
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Old Jun 10, 2016, 5:20 pm
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Are these aircraft expected to stay in the fleet post 2020? If they're leaving J the same, then there can't be a long term expectation.
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