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Air Canada Airbus A330-300 refurbishments

Old Oct 3, 2016, 10:53 pm
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Note: please keep this thread to information on the refurbishment program and its progress; for discussion of which seats are best and other details about the interiors, please visit the seating information thread.

A330-300 Fleet Overview

AC currently has three two configurations of 333:
  • Dream Cabin (16 aircraft): new configuration more in line with the product on AC's 787 and 777 fleets (seat map)
  • XM: AC's old configuration dating from the mid-2000s, which is being phased out (seat map)
  • SQ (2 aircraft): Singapore Airlines configuration, which is being phased out (seat map)
    • Important note: the front cabin on these aircraft is an angle-flat product in a 2-2-2 layout that was SQ's "regional" business class. On flights within North America, AC sells it as J; on international flights, they sell it as PY. These aircraft do not have a normal PY cabin
    • As of October 2023, these aircraft appear to be mostly used on YYZ/YUL-BOG, YUL-ALG, and domestic/TB TCONs (e.g. YUL-YVR/LAX)

The aircraft are gradually being refurbished to the Dream Cabin standard.


Status of Dream Cabin Refurbishment

Code:
32J 24O 241Y: 297 pax
C-GFAF (931) Completed @HKG, Oct 01/23 - Dec 09/23 [69 days]
C-GFAH (932) Completed @QPG, Aug 10/21 - Oct 05/21 [56 days]
C-GFAJ (933) Completed @QPG, Nov 24/21 - Jan 12/22 [49 days]
C-GFUR (934) Completed @QPG, Oct 08/19 - Feb 28/20 [143 days]
C-GHKR (935) Completed @QPG, Oct 04/21 - Nov 25/21 [52 days]
C-GHKW (936) Completed @HKG, Nov 27/21 - Feb 21/22 [86 days]
C-GHKX (937) Completed @RFD, Sep 02/20 - May 30/21 [271 days]
C-GHLM (938) Completed @HKG, Sep 30/22 - Dec 11/22 [72 days]
C-GEFA (939) Completed @RFD, Dec 31/20 - Mar 29/21 [89 days]
C-GEGC (940) Completed @QPG, May 17/22 - Jul 21/22 [67 days]
C-GEGI (941) Completed @QPG, Jan 10/22 - Mar 11/22 [60 days]
C-GEGP (942) Completed @QPG, Nov 06/19 - Jul 01/20 [238 days]
C-GHKC (943) Completed @HKG, Feb 21/22 - May 05/22 [73 days]
C-GKUG (944) Completed @QPG, Mar 02/20 - Feb 10/21 [345 days]
C-GKUH (945) Completed @RFD, Oct 08/20 - Jan 12/21 [99 days]
C-GOFV (946) SQ configuration
C-GOFW (947) Completed @QPG, Feb 03/22 - May 20/22 [107 days]
C-GXZD (948) Was SQ configuration; TBD [Either maintenance or refurb @MZJ, Nov 08/23 - Jan 20/24 [73 days]]
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Air Canada Airbus A330-300 refurbishments

Old Oct 26, 2016, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by smallmj
According to flightaware it is still there.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CGHLM
If I have time tomorrow I will stop by and see if I can see it.
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Old Oct 26, 2016, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by Orcair
As much as I like the current Y in the 330, they are adding rows of Y, at least according to the new seat map on AC.com. So in a way I hope they put slimline seats in, or else the legroom is going to be quite tight (or does the PY leave extra space behind it after the refurb, which is where the extra Y goes?).
Where is the new seat map on AC.com?
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Old Oct 26, 2016, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by yyz_atc_qq
Where is the new seat map on AC.com?
On the booking portal when you select a seat on any flight operated by the 333 in May 2017 or later.
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Old Oct 26, 2016, 4:09 pm
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Originally Posted by jasdou
Any news on Fin 938? It's been in refurb for over 30 days, which is typically how long it took to refurb the 777s.
Fin 933 (C-GFAJ) joined it's counterpart on October 14th, according to Flightaware.
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Old Oct 26, 2016, 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by ScGhost0
Fin 933 (C-GFAJ) joined it's counterpart on October 14th, according to Flightaware.
That would explain the heavy delays on AC194/111 lately..
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Old Oct 26, 2016, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by ScGhost0
Fin 933 (C-GFAJ) joined it's counterpart on October 14th, according to Flightaware.
wiki updated
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Old Oct 30, 2016, 9:18 pm
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Airbus 330 - New Business Class?

I am planning on flying with Air Canada via Toronto to Amsterdam next year since they have some good Business Class fares if 2 travel together.

Amsterdam - Toronto shows an A330-300 and I wonder if these might be getting the new Business Class seats by summer, if not there is also the option to fly with LH via FRA which might be the better option since the older herringbone seats seem to be getting quite tired.
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Old Oct 30, 2016, 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by yvrcnx
I am planning on flying with Air Canada via Toronto to Amsterdam next year since they have some good Business Class fares if 2 travel together.

Amsterdam - Toronto shows an A330-300 and I wonder if these might be getting the new Business Class seats by summer, if not there is also the option to fly with LH via FRA which might be the better option since the older herringbone seats seem to be getting quite tired.
You might find some info in this thread

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...uration-6.html
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Old Oct 30, 2016, 10:19 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
You might find some info in this thread

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...uration-6.html
Thank you 24left, that helps a lot, I was searching in the forum but missed this one.
Really appreciate it.
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Old Oct 30, 2016, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by yvrcnx
Thank you 24left, that helps a lot, I was searching in the forum but missed this one.
Really appreciate it.
Glad to help.

I find the search function on FT to be challenging sometimes. I just knew about the other thread since a FTer had recently posted a wiki so I remembered the discussion.
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Old Oct 31, 2016, 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by Orcair
On the booking portal when you select a seat on any flight operated by the 333 in May 2017 or later.
Observations when I do a dummy booking for next summer:
  • Business class configuration is old style pod 3 wide and photo is of the current (not new) pod.
  • Premium Economy is 3 x 7 as expected.
  • Economy - in the back cabin they have eliminate one center row of 4 seats (they only go to 49 vs. 50 on the current layout). Wonder if this means they are putting in a bigger wheelchair compliant lac or expanding the galley. Anyway, no extra rows back there so pitch is remaining the same. Two rows have been added to the front section of Y, which seems to start ahead of the wing vs. behind where the wing starts currently - not sure if any seat pitch change in this section.

Last edited by The Lev; Oct 31, 2016 at 10:59 am Reason: corrected mistype of 3x6 to 3x7 for PE
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Old Oct 31, 2016, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by The Lev
Observations when I do a dummy booking for next summer:
  • Business class configuration is old style pod 3 wide and photo is of the current (not new) pod.
  • Premium Economy is 3 x 6 as expected.
  • Economy - in the back cabin they have eliminate one center row of 4 seats (they only go to 49 vs. 50 on the current layout). Wonder if this means they are putting in a bigger wheelchair compliant lac or expanding the galley. Anyway, no extra rows back there so pitch is remaining the same. Two rows have been added to the front section of Y, which seems to start ahead of the wing vs. behind where the wing starts currently - not sure if any seat pitch change in this section.
Think PY should be 3x7 and I think row 12 will start right at L2 - maybe they have put more of the galley behind the centre block of 49 to fit everything in the mid-section of the plane?

I've attached the following screenshots from the booking engine directly (of a domestic flight):
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Old Oct 31, 2016, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by yvrcnx
I am planning on flying with Air Canada via Toronto to Amsterdam next year since they have some good Business Class fares if 2 travel together.

Amsterdam - Toronto shows an A330-300 and I wonder if these might be getting the new Business Class seats by summer, if not there is also the option to fly with LH via FRA which might be the better option since the older herringbone seats seem to be getting quite tired.
It's still early in the game and Summer schedules have not been finalized. YUL has been rumoured to be getting the bulk of the A330 flying for S17, and would not be at all surprised to see the 787-9 or 77L/77W on the route.
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Old Oct 31, 2016, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD
It's still early in the game and Summer schedules have not been finalized. YUL has been rumoured to be getting the bulk of the A330 flying for S17, and would not be at all surprised to see the 787-9 or 77L/77W on the route.
Thank you ACYYZ.
I does look like that currently the refurbished 330 is planned for AMS - YYZ since it shows Premium Economy but as you said it's still quite a few months away and I think whichever aircraft will be on this route, there is a very good chance that it will have the new business class which is much better than Lufthansa's.

I'll probably just book all flights with AC and see what happens in the new year.
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Old Nov 1, 2016, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by yvrcnx
Thank you ACYYZ.
I does look like that currently the refurbished 330 is planned for AMS - YYZ since it shows Premium Economy but as you said it's still quite a few months away and I think whichever aircraft will be on this route, there is a very good chance that it will have the new business class which is much better than Lufthansa's.

I'll probably just book all flights with AC and see what happens in the new year.
Your only chance to have the new business pods is if there is a equipment swap on this route. A330 gets new PY but NOT new J (as reported above). I think your chance to have a new seat on this route is quite low though not impossible.
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