Oct 3, 2016, 9:53 pm
Last edit by: YVR72
Note: please keep this thread to information on the refurbishment program and its progress; for discussion of which seats are best and other details about the interiors, please visit the seating information thread.
A330-300 Fleet Overview
AC currently has two configurations of 333:
A330-300 Fleet Overview
AC currently has two configurations of 333:
- Dream Cabin (16 aircraft): Latest 3-class configuration in line with the 787 and 777 fleets (seat map)
- The "Merlions" (2 aircraft): ex-Singapore Airlines 2-class configuration (seat map), which are expected to be reconfigured to the Dream Cabin.
- Important note: the front cabin on these aircraft is an angle-flat product in a 2-2-2 layout that was SQ's "regional" business class. On flights within North America, AC sells it as J; on international flights, they sell it as PY. These aircraft do not have the standard AC PY cabin
- Since October 2023, these aircraft primarily operate YYZ>BOG>YUL triangle, and YUL<>LAX.
Code:
32J 24O 241Y: 297 pax C-GFAF (931) Completed @HKG, Oct 01/23 - Dec 09/23 [69 days] C-GFAH (932) Completed @QPG, Aug 10/21 - Oct 05/21 [56 days] C-GFAJ (933) Completed @QPG, Nov 24/21 - Jan 12/22 [49 days] C-GFUR (934) Completed @QPG, Oct 08/19 - Feb 28/20 [143 days] C-GHKR (935) Completed @QPG, Oct 04/21 - Nov 25/21 [52 days] C-GHKW (936) Completed @HKG, Nov 27/21 - Feb 21/22 [86 days] C-GHKX (937) Completed @RFD, Sep 02/20 - May 30/21 [271 days] C-GHLM (938) Completed @HKG, Sep 30/22 - Dec 11/22 [72 days] C-GEFA (939) Completed @RFD, Dec 31/20 - Mar 29/21 [89 days] C-GEGC (940) Completed @QPG, May 17/22 - Jul 21/22 [67 days] C-GEGI (941) Completed @QPG, Jan 10/22 - Mar 11/22 [60 days] C-GEGP (942) Completed @QPG, Nov 06/19 - Jul 01/20 [238 days] C-GHKC (943) Completed @HKG, Feb 21/22 - May 05/22 [73 days] C-GKUG (944) Completed @QPG, Mar 02/20 - Feb 10/21 [345 days] C-GKUH (945) Completed @RFD, Oct 08/20 - Jan 12/21 [99 days] C-GOFV (946) SQ configuration C-GOFW (947) Completed @QPG, Feb 03/22 - May 20/22 [107 days] C-GXZD (948) SQ configuration
Air Canada Airbus A330-300 refurbishments
Dec 30, 2016, 2:54 pm
#151
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: St. John's NL
Programs: WestJet Gold; E35K/*Silver
Posts: 561
I just flew 936 from Brussels to Montreal.
Some observations. Firstly, the 330 is no longer the odd one out or the comfortable plane to fly. It's as bad as anything.
PY is just domestic A320 J. Unlike the rest of AC fleets PY, which is a comparable similar product to domestic J, the PY is exactly the same seat and material (with the same entertainment system. I suspect that decision was made to save costs on an expensive entertainment system overhaul, the A320 seat provided an easy and available option at minimal cost).
By the way, the flight was running very late (1h40). Before we boarded the agents said something like this "Because of the late running of the service, we're going to board from the back forwards, we now invite passengers in zones 4 and 5 to come forward for pre-boarding".
I laughed pretty hard and wondered what the flyertalk crowd would make of that. I'm assuming it's not company policy
Some observations. Firstly, the 330 is no longer the odd one out or the comfortable plane to fly. It's as bad as anything.
PY is just domestic A320 J. Unlike the rest of AC fleets PY, which is a comparable similar product to domestic J, the PY is exactly the same seat and material (with the same entertainment system. I suspect that decision was made to save costs on an expensive entertainment system overhaul, the A320 seat provided an easy and available option at minimal cost).
By the way, the flight was running very late (1h40). Before we boarded the agents said something like this "Because of the late running of the service, we're going to board from the back forwards, we now invite passengers in zones 4 and 5 to come forward for pre-boarding".
I laughed pretty hard and wondered what the flyertalk crowd would make of that. I'm assuming it's not company policy
Dec 30, 2016, 4:02 pm
#152
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,829
PY is just domestic A320 J. Unlike the rest of AC fleets PY, which is a comparable similar product to domestic J, the PY is exactly the same seat and material (with the same entertainment system. I suspect that decision was made to save costs on an expensive entertainment system overhaul, the A320 seat provided an easy and available option at minimal cost).
But the real difference is in Y. It's the only long haul plane in the fleet that has not gone to a slaveship/sardine can configuration.
By the way, the flight was running very late (1h40). Before we boarded the agents said something like this "Because of the late running of the service, we're going to board from the back forwards, we now invite passengers in zones 4 and 5 to come forward for pre-boarding".
I laughed pretty hard and wondered what the flyertalk crowd would make of that. I'm assuming it's not company policy
I laughed pretty hard and wondered what the flyertalk crowd would make of that. I'm assuming it's not company policy
Dec 30, 2016, 5:34 pm
#153
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: *G^2, Bonvoyed, NEXUS
Posts: 3,525
I just flew 936 from Brussels to Montreal.
Some observations. Firstly, the 330 is no longer the odd one out or the comfortable plane to fly. It's as bad as anything.
PY is just domestic A320 J. Unlike the rest of AC fleets PY, which is a comparable similar product to domestic J, the PY is exactly the same seat and material (with the same entertainment system. I suspect that decision was made to save costs on an expensive entertainment system overhaul, the A320 seat provided an easy and available option at minimal cost).
Some observations. Firstly, the 330 is no longer the odd one out or the comfortable plane to fly. It's as bad as anything.
PY is just domestic A320 J. Unlike the rest of AC fleets PY, which is a comparable similar product to domestic J, the PY is exactly the same seat and material (with the same entertainment system. I suspect that decision was made to save costs on an expensive entertainment system overhaul, the A320 seat provided an easy and available option at minimal cost).
Dec 30, 2016, 9:09 pm
#154
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: St. John's NL
Programs: WestJet Gold; E35K/*Silver
Posts: 561
That's my bad then. I only saw them walking on the plane and off, and my thoughts were "wow, they've just taken seats from the 320". If that's not what they've done then oops.
As for density, pitch is poor now and no different to any other aircraft AC flies. Yes you get a little extra width over something else, but I'm not celebrating 1 inch extra wide as proof this plane is not HD.
As for density, pitch is poor now and no different to any other aircraft AC flies. Yes you get a little extra width over something else, but I'm not celebrating 1 inch extra wide as proof this plane is not HD.
Dec 30, 2016, 10:34 pm
#155
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SE (*A Gold), Bonvoy Platinum Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum / AP Reserve, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,695
What do you mean by this? AC tightened the pitch in Y? My understanding from this thread is that Y was entirely untouched and that the J pods didn't even receive a deep clean. How did the pitch change to match "any other aircraft AC flies"?
Dec 31, 2016, 6:30 am
#156
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: yyz/ord
Programs: AC E50 UA1k 2MM AA EXP Royal Ambassador SPG Platinum
Posts: 1,516
interesting all over the news today is SHOCK at CX for now deep cleaning the cabin once ever 14 days.
It would be amazing if AC cleaned a cabin once every month.
It would be amazing if AC cleaned a cabin once every month.
Dec 31, 2016, 10:12 am
#157
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Never home.
Posts: 2,971
Dec 31, 2016, 11:57 am
#158
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,829
Dec 31, 2016, 12:43 pm
#159
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: Air Canada Aeroplan
Posts: 1,748
Y was not untouched. They added two rows, thereby reducing pitch.
Dec 31, 2016, 1:17 pm
#161
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SE (*A Gold), Bonvoy Platinum Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum / AP Reserve, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,695
I used a poor choice of words in my previous post... by "untouched" I meant the existing Y seats, not the Y cabin as a whole.
Thanks ^
Thanks ^
Dec 31, 2016, 1:51 pm
#163
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,829
I seem to recall that when introducing PY in what used to be the back J cabin, there was space left for some Y rows.
Jan 1, 2017, 11:20 am
#164
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto - YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan/Hilton Gold/Marriott Bonvoy Titanium/Accor/Hyatt Gold Passport
Posts: 5,899
Having worked the reconfigured aircraft twice, that was my impression. The former "B" Cabin was occupied by 4 rows of J (10-13), add to that the removal of cupboards, a lavatory and the rear facing galley complex at L2/R2 - seems reasonable that the former space now occupies 3 rows of PY plus the added 2 rows of Y. The current Y cabin does not appear or feel to have been tightened up.
Jan 4, 2017, 2:40 pm
#165
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,171
How much longer is AC planning on keeping the 333s around?
I guess not too long since the J seats are not getting updated to the new ones and the Y cabin is not changing into a HD config, but I'm just curious if AC ever released a rough time frame.
I guess not too long since the J seats are not getting updated to the new ones and the Y cabin is not changing into a HD config, but I'm just curious if AC ever released a rough time frame.