Community
Wiki Posts
Search

One Stop Security

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 21, 2017, 4:47 pm
  #166  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: *G^2, Bonvoyed, NEXUS
Posts: 3,516
I just flew Europe-YYZ-USA the other day, and my YYZ-USA BP had OSS on it. I compared this to my Canada-YYZ-USA boarding passes which do not.

Is this an error on AC's part? Or will this eventually be implemented for connections to the US?
D582 is offline  
Old May 21, 2017, 9:31 pm
  #167  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
Originally Posted by D582
Or will this eventually be implemented for connections to the US?
Not for a long time I expect. As long as the US demands extra checks (i.e. no shoes), OSS is meaningless to them.
rehoult is offline  
Old May 21, 2017, 10:41 pm
  #168  
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Vancouver
Programs: Aeroplan, Mileage Plus, WestJet Gold, AMEX Plat
Posts: 2,026
Originally Posted by ridefar
There is no OSS signage or identification at all. In fact the only sign I recall faces the wrong way for 80% of the connecting traffic. Unless you know where to look, it would be very difficult to find unassisted. Additionally, there are 4-5 GTAA employees asking to see your boarding pass (unnecessarily) every 30m or so. I still think the process needs a couple improvements like Nexus machines, reduced boarding pass checks, and a hallway for walking to D gates rather than being forced to take the bus. But just adding clearer signage with an "OSS" logo or lettering would help. For non FF who have no idea what OSS is (and even many FF) there is no way to know that the OSS clearance area is an OSS clearance area. It is one of many things TSA pre-check does right--the logo and the identifiers are everywhere and are used as visual cues without the need for reading the sign in almost every airport.
Going through it two days ago, the signage needs to be fixed. It is simply wrong. There is a big banner that says "Canadian connections" However the overhead sign says "International Connection".

The bus ride was interesting, I think there are the same buses they used for the infield terminal in years past. The airport must be the habit of just storing these and pulling them out from time to time as needed.
Fiordland is offline  
Old May 22, 2017, 12:47 am
  #169  
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Canada
Programs: BA Gold (OWE), Star Alliance Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,194
Originally Posted by rehoult
Not for a long time I expect. As long as the US demands extra checks (i.e. no shoes), OSS is meaningless to them.
They could what Ireland does at preclearance and just have people remove their shoes and laptops for connecting pax.
reclusive46 is offline  
Old May 22, 2017, 7:10 am
  #170  
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
Originally Posted by reclusive46
They could what Ireland does at preclearance and just have people remove their shoes and laptops for connecting pax.
Laptops? Don't you have to remove a laptop at every security point worldwide?
jc94 is offline  
Old May 22, 2017, 8:17 am
  #171  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 2,494
Originally Posted by jc94
Laptops? Don't you have to remove a laptop at every security point worldwide?

Not from select middle eastern locations
quantumofforce is offline  
Old May 22, 2017, 8:17 am
  #172  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
Programs: AC 50k 1MM, Marriott LT Titanium Elite
Posts: 3,402
Originally Posted by jc94
Laptops? Don't you have to remove a laptop at every security point worldwide?
TSA Pre Check means no laptop removal for security.
ridefar is offline  
Old May 22, 2017, 1:06 pm
  #173  
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Programs: 1 thousand
Posts: 2,112
Originally Posted by jc94
Laptops? Don't you have to remove a laptop at every security point worldwide?
Not in NZ, unless flying international.

Not in the US if you win the precheck lottery.

Maybe more.
televisor is offline  
Old May 22, 2017, 5:36 pm
  #174  
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Vancouver
Programs: Aeroplan, Mileage Plus, WestJet Gold, AMEX Plat
Posts: 2,026
Originally Posted by ridefar
TSA Pre Check means no laptop removal for security.
In the land obsessed with not permitting laptops on flights into the US one can get on an aircraft going the other way with out having to remove a laptop at security.
Fiordland is offline  
Old May 22, 2017, 6:27 pm
  #175  
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
Originally Posted by quantumofforce
Not from select middle eastern locations
Right right. Except the airlines that gate check them

Didn't know about pre-check. Or NZ actually. Not travelled with a laptop there! I do seem to recall them (or Australia?) allowing water thru in some cases.

Tbh it reminds me of China that had me open my backpack with camera stuff so the X-ray could see it all better. I decided a long argument (in China) was a bad idea but I may have muttered something

Last edited by jc94; May 22, 2017 at 6:35 pm
jc94 is offline  
Old Jul 20, 2017, 3:39 am
  #176  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYZ, YTZ, YHM
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Platinum Elite
Posts: 77
OSS at YOW?

Does anyone know if there's OSS when transiting from the US through YOW onward to another Canadian destination?
svirac is offline  
Old Jul 20, 2017, 5:13 am
  #177  
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Ideally YOW, but probably not
Programs: AC SE*MM
Posts: 1,827
Originally Posted by svirac
Does anyone know if there's OSS when transiting from the US through YOW onward to another Canadian destination?
There is not. You're going upstairs and back through security.

The good news is that the YOW security lineups are usually very short
RatherBeInYOW is offline  
Old Jul 20, 2017, 4:04 pm
  #178  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYZ, YTZ, YHM
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Platinum Elite
Posts: 77
Thanks for the info! I asked because I had OSS on my BP, but didn't think that YOW had a corridor for that. Glad I wasn't on a wild goose hunt looking for an alternate path.
svirac is offline  
Old Jul 20, 2017, 8:42 pm
  #179  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
Programs: AC 50k 1MM, Marriott LT Titanium Elite
Posts: 3,402
I would say that CATSA definitely needs to work on either signage or education for OSS. Couple recent experiences: Montreal, asked CATSA employee about OSS. Neither he nor his work colleague spoke english. (Or pretended not to.) So AC has to provide services in both official languages but CATSA doesn't? Fast forward to this week. Asked CATSA employee in Toronto about OSS. She had less than no idea what I was talking about. And resented me interrupting her personal phone call. (She was sitting at a work desk supposedly directing incoming pax traffic at YYZ.)
ridefar is offline  
Old Jul 21, 2017, 12:31 pm
  #180  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,232
Originally Posted by ridefar
Asked CATSA employee in Toronto about OSS. She had less than no idea what I was talking about.
Same issue for me on a recent trip through YYZ. It's great that this 'program' exists, but it would be better if there was better information and training.

It's pretty sad when FT becomes the authoritative source for a government program. Not that you all aren't fine upstanding members of the realm, of course.
Bohemian1 is online now  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.