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Old Jun 13, 2014, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by Clipper801
A CIBC Aerogold Visa Infinite Privilege or TD Aeroplan Visa Infinite Privilege will also get you priority boarding regardless of class/fare of travel on AC.
I didn't know that. I don't care all that much about priority boarding (seemed to matter more when I had status!) but on the HD I'd like my carry on to stay carry on so boarding ahead of most of Y would be useful.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 7:11 pm
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Pe hkg ->yvr

Had my first HD PE experience today and was pleasantly surprised. Seats okay for comfort, lots of leg room and good seat width. Food and service was good. As my company travel policy allows PE but not business, this for me is a great option on long hauls.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 8:44 pm
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Originally Posted by yyj9
Had my first HD PE experience today and was pleasantly surprised. Seats okay for comfort, lots of leg room and good seat width. Food and service was good. As my company travel policy allows PE but not business, this for me is a great option on long hauls.
Basically you received the pre-HD regular Y bulkhead seat experience....now at triple the price.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Basically you received the pre-HD regular Y bulkhead seat experience....now at triple the price.
Pre-HD 777s Y has 20" seats with 38" pitch? Wow, I must have missed that somehow...
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by rehoult
Pre-HD 777s Y has 20" seats with 38" pitch? Wow, I must have missed that somehow...
About 19" give or take...and if you were in row 16, the pitch was better than 38"...so yes, close enough.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Basically you received the pre-HD regular Y bulkhead seat experience....now at triple the price.
Actually PE is frequently cheaper than Flex. In terms of legroom you are correct - otherwise not so much...
  • J main course served in PE
  • wider seat
  • better IFE system (available in all seats)
  • greater recline
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by Ben Smith
....... Only 5 are in this special market 458 seat configuration. ......
This special market is YVR-HKG which I fly J. The B77P J no longer worth the extra cost. I am trying to avoid the B77P. Next YVR-HKG flight is AC B767 pod to ICN, connect to Asiana to HKG in J.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by Gus2013
There is nothing to allay, it has been announced that they are going to 10 across seating on all the 777... just not quite as dense as the HD.
Actually, yes, quite as dense as the HD in Y. The reduced density will come from a much less dense J, and from a few rows of preferred seats in Y. For everyone else, it will be 10 across 31" pitch, just like in the HD.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 12:16 pm
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i recently flew on a JAL 777-200 - 3 class - between ITM-HND...

i would shoot myself in the head if i had to fly that more than the time this flight took....it's 31 and 17.3 and boy was it tight for this gaijin.

thankfully i had a child next to me and was on the aisle...
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 1:46 pm
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I'm flying YVR - LHR tomorrow. In order to avoid the 77HD, I'm flying through YYZ, there and back. On the way there, both segments are on 77L, already upgraded. On the way back, the aircraft are 77W and 77L. It makes the trip longer, but it's worth it to avoid the 77HD.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 2:55 pm
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Accidentally flew this sardine can today. 33A, YYZ - YVR (flew DCA - YYZ - YVR) and didn't realize I was on the 777HD until it was too late.

Plane was completely full in economy. Not a single empty seat. Interestingly, I boarded with my fellow 'elites' and we either all went to the back, or to J. I didn't see anyone head to PE, and I forgot to walk up and check it out in-flight.

I'm 6'2 and I was surprised to find I could live with the leg room for five hours, mostly because the person in front of me didn't recline. Would not want to do it across the pond though, and the E175 out of DCA was a limo compared to its big brother.

As to the seat width, I was saved by the fact there was a petite woman next to me. If there had been another me next to me it would have been intolerable.

As I said, I was also saved by the fact that the person in front of me didn't recline, and I didn't recline either. Hopefully I've started a trend

IFE was nice, though.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 6:19 pm
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Originally Posted by rehoult
Pre-HD 777s Y has 20" seats with 38" pitch? Wow, I must have missed that somehow...
did you miss the bulkhead part?
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by AA_EXP09
did you miss the bulkhead part?
Regardless of that, 20" width is laughable. 3-3-3 777s are 18.5 and probably closer to 17.5-18" with the armrest traytable in the bulkheads.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 6:38 pm
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Originally Posted by winnipegrev
Regardless of that, 20" width is laughable. 3-3-3 777s are 18.5 and probably closer to 17.5-18" with the armrest traytable in the bulkheads.
Yup!

AA, don't get me wrong, the new Y is a terrible product (even if it is becoming the norm). But suggesting that the new PE is essentially the same as the old Y is just disingenuous, they are decided different. PE is pretty much domestic J, and most people differentiate between domestic Y and J.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 7:40 pm
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Comments on 777HD HKG-YVR - EPIC FAIL

Anyone sat in row 12? I want to see if there's extra legroom in this row or not.
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