May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Nov 4, 2014, 9:52 pm
#3931
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West Jet to reduce fares
“We think that by unbundling and charging for bags separately we have an opportunity to lower our econo fares,” said Gregg Saretsky, the Calgary-based carrier’s chief executive.
Nov 5, 2014, 7:45 am
#3932
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WestJet said Tuesday it plans to lower airfares on select economy-class tickets as its redirects a portion of the money being collected from new baggage fees toward more competitive prices.
“We think that by unbundling and charging for bags separately we have an opportunity to lower our econo fares,” said Gregg Saretsky, the Calgary-based carrier’s chief executive.
“We think that by unbundling and charging for bags separately we have an opportunity to lower our econo fares,” said Gregg Saretsky, the Calgary-based carrier’s chief executive.
Either way, its the final price that counts, so all the ad-speak and market-reasons doesn't really matter in the end.
Nov 5, 2014, 7:03 pm
#3933
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And LIM just got Rogued, the disease spreads.
Nov 5, 2014, 7:19 pm
#3934
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On a different note my last Premier Rouge flight was worse than the previous one. I don't intend to post my comments as IMHO AC is not interested in doing anything. Remember they introduced Rouge as the costs are significantly less than regular flights.
Nov 5, 2014, 7:45 pm
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Air Canada rouge Expands Vancouver – Los Angeles Service
In case you all missed the latest:
Air Canada rouge Expands Vancouver – Los Angeles Service
Update at 0210GMT 06NOV14
Air Canada rouge in Summer 2015 expands Vancouver – Los Angeles operation, as it continues Boeing 767-300ER service on/after 01MAY15. In addition, the airline restores 4th daily from 01MAY15, followed by the addition of 5th daily flight from 01JUL15 to 03SEP15 (AC1983/1982).
AC1983 YVR0620 – 0923LAX 319 D
AC1878 YVR0845 – 1138LAX 763 D
AC1880 YVR1300 – 1600LAX 319 D
AC1882 YVR1610 – 1912LAX 319 D
AC1884 YVR2030 – 2332LAX 319 D
AC1879 LAX0700 – 0944YVR 319 D
AC1982 LAX1005 – 1249YVR 319 D
AC1881 LAX1300 – 1544YVR 763 D
AC1883 LAX1640 – 1924YVR 319 D
AC1885 LAX1955 – 2239YVR 319 D
http://airlineroute.net/2014/11/06/zx-yvrlax-s15/
Air Canada rouge Expands Vancouver – Los Angeles Service
Update at 0210GMT 06NOV14
Air Canada rouge in Summer 2015 expands Vancouver – Los Angeles operation, as it continues Boeing 767-300ER service on/after 01MAY15. In addition, the airline restores 4th daily from 01MAY15, followed by the addition of 5th daily flight from 01JUL15 to 03SEP15 (AC1983/1982).
AC1983 YVR0620 – 0923LAX 319 D
AC1878 YVR0845 – 1138LAX 763 D
AC1880 YVR1300 – 1600LAX 319 D
AC1882 YVR1610 – 1912LAX 319 D
AC1884 YVR2030 – 2332LAX 319 D
AC1879 LAX0700 – 0944YVR 319 D
AC1982 LAX1005 – 1249YVR 319 D
AC1881 LAX1300 – 1544YVR 763 D
AC1883 LAX1640 – 1924YVR 319 D
AC1885 LAX1955 – 2239YVR 319 D
http://airlineroute.net/2014/11/06/zx-yvrlax-s15/
Nov 5, 2014, 7:47 pm
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As for LIM
Air Canada rouge to Start Peru Service from May 2015
Update at 0155GMT 06NOV14
Air Canada rouge is expanding operations to South America, as it takes over Mainline service on Toronto – Lima route, from 01MAY15. Operational frequency remains unchanged at 3 weekly level.
AC1946 YYZ1740 – 0030+1LIM 763 146
AC1947 LIM0200 – 1100YYZ 763 257
http://airlineroute.net/2014/11/06/zx-lim-may15/
Update at 0155GMT 06NOV14
Air Canada rouge is expanding operations to South America, as it takes over Mainline service on Toronto – Lima route, from 01MAY15. Operational frequency remains unchanged at 3 weekly level.
AC1946 YYZ1740 – 0030+1LIM 763 146
AC1947 LIM0200 – 1100YYZ 763 257
http://airlineroute.net/2014/11/06/zx-lim-may15/
Nov 5, 2014, 7:59 pm
#3938
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Air Canada rouge to Start Peru Service from May 2015
Update at 0155GMT 06NOV14
Air Canada rouge is expanding operations to South America, as it takes over Mainline service on Toronto – Lima route, from 01MAY15. Operational frequency remains unchanged at 3 weekly level.
AC1946 YYZ1740 – 0030+1LIM 763 146
AC1947 LIM0200 – 1100YYZ 763 257
http://airlineroute.net/2014/11/06/zx-lim-may15/
Update at 0155GMT 06NOV14
Air Canada rouge is expanding operations to South America, as it takes over Mainline service on Toronto – Lima route, from 01MAY15. Operational frequency remains unchanged at 3 weekly level.
AC1946 YYZ1740 – 0030+1LIM 763 146
AC1947 LIM0200 – 1100YYZ 763 257
http://airlineroute.net/2014/11/06/zx-lim-may15/
Nov 6, 2014, 12:02 pm
#3939
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Rouge tidbits from Calin's call w/ analysts this morning.
- The Montreal-based company said it expects capacity, or available seat miles, to rise between 9 and 10 percent in 2015, with 55 percent of the growth coming from Rouge.
- "Rouge has been more successful than we expected," said Chief Executive Calin Rovinescu (Nov 6, 2014)
- Benjamin Smith, Air Canada's president of passenger airlines, said the company could react quickly and slow down capacity growth if demand softens.
- "We view the expansion of our international and leisure businesses as building blocks for making Air Canada sustainably profitable," CEO Calin Rovinescu
- The Montreal-based company said it expects capacity, or available seat miles, to rise between 9 and 10 percent in 2015, with 55 percent of the growth coming from Rouge.
- "Rouge has been more successful than we expected," said Chief Executive Calin Rovinescu (Nov 6, 2014)
- Benjamin Smith, Air Canada's president of passenger airlines, said the company could react quickly and slow down capacity growth if demand softens.
- "We view the expansion of our international and leisure businesses as building blocks for making Air Canada sustainably profitable," CEO Calin Rovinescu
Nov 6, 2014, 12:25 pm
#3940
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There's the kicker for AC; the planes are probably paid for and parking them for a few days a week, or even months at a time has little or no cost associated with it.
Nov 6, 2014, 12:35 pm
#3941
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Either way, I found comfort in it as an investor b/c I can't get my head around how fast AC's system ASMs are rising ...
Nov 6, 2014, 1:03 pm
#3942
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Not sure that's a viable option for them ... I took Ben's comments to mean they have a very flexible arrangement w/ Boeing and can defer deliveries without much (any) penalty. You might be right, though.
Either way, I found comfort in it as an investor b/c I can't get my head around how fast AC's system ASMs are rising ...
Either way, I found comfort in it as an investor b/c I can't get my head around how fast AC's system ASMs are rising ...
Since 16 319s and 8 767s have been converted to Rouge, that means mainline will be down about 12 narrow body planes when the 321/320/777 arrive.
One must logically assume that the lowest margin routes were 'Rouged' and if the economy tanks, the leisure-type routes (read low margin/more price sensitive) are the first to fall. I read a background article on Allegiant and their CEO said that they park their planes for 2-3 days a week to avoid flying them at low loads.
Sounds to me AC took a page out of the Allegiant book on that side, and it makes sense. I'm just wondering where one can park 10 A319s and 4 767s on the cheap?
Nov 6, 2014, 4:04 pm
#3943
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Nov 6, 2014, 4:23 pm
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