Mini RTW Questions
May 29, 2020 | 4:15 pm
#7351
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 73
Hmm good options to know for sure. Do the other airports in NZ have good options for going internationally? Should I be considering CHC/WLG/ZQN or do they not really open more J options?
May 29, 2020 | 6:06 pm
#7352
Join Date: May 2018
Location: YYZ
Programs: AA Plat, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Golden Circle Jade
Posts: 128
ORD-TPE-SIN-AKL is 14,740 miles and it exceeds the MPM of 13,124 (per website javascript, only bookable online now).
I have always tried to look for a way through SIN for AKL/WLG but never succeeded.
Last edited by cennis; May 29, 2020 at 7:41 pm
May 29, 2020 | 7:07 pm
#7353
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Gold
Posts: 18,900
SQ and NZ have some SIN-CHC service. SQ does WLG as a tag on to one of their MEL flights.
Whether that opens up much more availability than AKL, I don't know, but it's something.
May 29, 2020 | 8:09 pm
#7354
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Programs: AC SE, *Gold, Bonvoy Titanium (Lifetime Platinum), National Emerald Club Executive
Posts: 66
I booked both itineraries over the phone. I knew I was over mpm as well but the agent didnt mention it!
May 29, 2020 | 10:14 pm
#7355
Join Date: May 2018
Location: YYZ
Programs: AA Plat, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Golden Circle Jade
Posts: 128
I succeeded too! Thanks for the tip. Their systems are definitely in a transition phase and it is unclear what can or cannot be booked. Stark difference than the complaints about reduced MPM5 a couple days ago.
May 30, 2020 | 7:57 pm
#7357
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YVR
Programs: Air Canada-Aeroplan, NEXUS, E75K, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 401
RIP Just cancelled June J 3 stopper 
Ywg-yul-zrh-cph LX, cph-pek-sin-per SK first leg, per-sin-tpe, tpe-ord-yyz-ywg, eva J ugh so choked. Now I have 320k points and nowhere or firm dates to go with a new job starting up (if we are even able to).
Ywg-yul-zrh-cph LX, cph-pek-sin-per SK first leg, per-sin-tpe, tpe-ord-yyz-ywg, eva J ugh so choked. Now I have 320k points and nowhere or firm dates to go with a new job starting up (if we are even able to).
Jun 20, 2020 | 8:03 pm
#7358
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: YYZ
Posts: 670
I finally booked this itinerary for family of 5 in business for next year:
yyz-lis (stopover)
lis-zrh-bkk-han (dest)
han-bkk-icn-lax-yyz
I got all segments in biz except bkk-icn. Aeroplan phone agent said there were only 3 seats even though the Aeroplan website/app indicated 5. So, I booked 3 in biz and 2 in Y. Today, I see that there are still 2 biz seats in Aeroplan app as well as in the United MileagePlus app (here it says 2 tickets left at this price). Called in to ask the agent to upgrade but was told that even though she sees the availability on the website, she gets an error when trying to book... Does anyone have any suggestions?
yyz-lis (stopover)
lis-zrh-bkk-han (dest)
han-bkk-icn-lax-yyz
I got all segments in biz except bkk-icn. Aeroplan phone agent said there were only 3 seats even though the Aeroplan website/app indicated 5. So, I booked 3 in biz and 2 in Y. Today, I see that there are still 2 biz seats in Aeroplan app as well as in the United MileagePlus app (here it says 2 tickets left at this price). Called in to ask the agent to upgrade but was told that even though she sees the availability on the website, she gets an error when trying to book... Does anyone have any suggestions?
Jun 20, 2020 | 9:47 pm
#7359
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: Aeroplan Elite 35K
Posts: 201
I finally booked this itinerary for family of 5 in business for next year:
yyz-lis (stopover)
lis-zrh-bkk-han (dest)
han-bkk-icn-lax-yyz
I got all segments in biz except bkk-icn. Aeroplan phone agent said there were only 3 seats even though the Aeroplan website/app indicated 5. So, I booked 3 in biz and 2 in Y. Today, I see that there are still 2 biz seats in Aeroplan app as well as in the United MileagePlus app (here it says 2 tickets left at this price). Called in to ask the agent to upgrade but was told that even though she sees the availability on the website, she gets an error when trying to book... Does anyone have any suggestions?
yyz-lis (stopover)
lis-zrh-bkk-han (dest)
han-bkk-icn-lax-yyz
I got all segments in biz except bkk-icn. Aeroplan phone agent said there were only 3 seats even though the Aeroplan website/app indicated 5. So, I booked 3 in biz and 2 in Y. Today, I see that there are still 2 biz seats in Aeroplan app as well as in the United MileagePlus app (here it says 2 tickets left at this price). Called in to ask the agent to upgrade but was told that even though she sees the availability on the website, she gets an error when trying to book... Does anyone have any suggestions?
Jul 6, 2020 | 9:51 am
#7360
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE, WJ Gold, Bonvoy Titanium Ambassador
Posts: 135
Does anyone know the MPM for YYZ-IST (cant find in thread), looking into if the following would be valid YYZ-CAI-AMM-IST
Thanks
Thanks
Jul 16, 2020 | 11:38 am
#7361
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: aeroplan
Posts: 23
GCM shows YYZ-CAI-AMM-IST as 6,812.
I checked YYZ-CAI-IST-YYZ in the multi-city reward and it was valid. So that route should be fine.
Jul 16, 2020 | 11:48 am
#7362
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: aeroplan
Posts: 23
mRTW routing rules?
I want to book this itinerary: YHZ-YUL-IST-FRA-BKK-SYD (dest) SYD-AUH-CDG(stop)-ZRH-YUL-YHZ
My outbound is just under the MPM but I wonder if I am allowed to go through IST to get to FRA. I can obviously go via Europe but I want to fly TK.
I have been trying to find the nitty-gritty routing rules, but I have had some problems with routing in the past where I made changes to my booking and the new agent said there were certain directions I couldn't go and I can't remember what they were. Any help/advice would be great. Thanks!
My outbound is just under the MPM but I wonder if I am allowed to go through IST to get to FRA. I can obviously go via Europe but I want to fly TK.
I have been trying to find the nitty-gritty routing rules, but I have had some problems with routing in the past where I made changes to my booking and the new agent said there were certain directions I couldn't go and I can't remember what they were. Any help/advice would be great. Thanks!
Jul 16, 2020 | 3:23 pm
#7363
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: YVR
Programs: SE 100K
Posts: 1,116
If it's under MPM you can.
Jul 16, 2020 | 3:33 pm
#7364
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: aeroplan
Posts: 23
Thanks so much for the clarification. I just have one more question. I am trying to search for CGD-ZRH and it will only show me Lufthansa flights. If I choose CDG-LIS or CDG-BRU it shows availability for other partners. Is there some rule that I don't know about? I checked Expert Flyer for 2 weeks and it shows no availability.
Jul 16, 2020 | 4:39 pm
#7365
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 18,113
Thanks so much for the clarification. I just have one more question. I am trying to search for CGD-ZRH and it will only show me Lufthansa flights. If I choose CDG-LIS or CDG-BRU it shows availability for other partners. Is there some rule that I don't know about? I checked Expert Flyer for 2 weeks and it shows no availability.
I kid, but there's no rule, it might just not be available for those days. Did you check far out? a good idea would be e.g. UA's calendar search because it allows non-stop calendar searches, then search for the days with availability on AP.