Mar 2, 2016, 12:16 pm
Last edit by: sokolov
No YQ airlines/routes/countries
NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET
UA:
All flights except from U.S to: ICN
AC:
Within North America
TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)
For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)
All TATL flights
List of YQ-free cities/countries:
Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)
For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH
Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK
Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)
NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination
Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ
Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)
20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)
Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)
Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.
YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.
TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET
UA:
All flights except from U.S to: ICN
AC:
Within North America
TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)
For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)
All TATL flights
List of YQ-free cities/countries:
Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)
For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH
Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK
Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)
NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination
Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ
Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)
20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)
Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)
Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.
YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.
TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences
Dec 6, 2021, 5:08 am
#2431
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,326
Sure they are (minus the 20 euro fee per ticket of course).
If flights get cancelled you certainly have a few options regardless.
But if it's you who decide not to travel, then splitting this into a one-way full award tickets and the other way full revenue tickets doesn't make much difference than having 2 returns as awards and 1 return as revenue. It probably gives you some flexibility in the scenario that the airline changes only your revenue flight, so you can be more flexible with the separate award one-way booking. But, again, if you have that single return revenue ticket in one booking and one flight gets changed/cancelled, you should still be able to change the other flight too (at least that's what I believe, since your whole booking gets screwed and you would have the other leg in the same booking as well). Also, by booking the award flights as two pairs of return flights, you would save 2x that 20 euro fee if you need to cancel everything.
If you're too worried about current or future conditions, I'd look into possible "fail-safes" for that revenue ticket first, perhaps try to see if there's any "insurance" option that doesn't cost much, in case the revenue ticket (which would be a return ticket) needs to get refunded and then if possible book as many tickets with miles (also as returns).
If flights get cancelled you certainly have a few options regardless.
But if it's you who decide not to travel, then splitting this into a one-way full award tickets and the other way full revenue tickets doesn't make much difference than having 2 returns as awards and 1 return as revenue. It probably gives you some flexibility in the scenario that the airline changes only your revenue flight, so you can be more flexible with the separate award one-way booking. But, again, if you have that single return revenue ticket in one booking and one flight gets changed/cancelled, you should still be able to change the other flight too (at least that's what I believe, since your whole booking gets screwed and you would have the other leg in the same booking as well). Also, by booking the award flights as two pairs of return flights, you would save 2x that 20 euro fee if you need to cancel everything.
If you're too worried about current or future conditions, I'd look into possible "fail-safes" for that revenue ticket first, perhaps try to see if there's any "insurance" option that doesn't cost much, in case the revenue ticket (which would be a return ticket) needs to get refunded and then if possible book as many tickets with miles (also as returns).
Dec 6, 2021, 10:44 am
#2432
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: CHA
Posts: 151
I ran into it myself several years ago trying to book from Longyearbyen to Athens, we could only get to Zurich. LYR-OSL counted as one flight despite the stop in Tromso (same flight # all the way), OSL was the connection, and OSL-ZRH was the second leg. (We overnighted there & took paid flights ZRH-ATH. Economy upgraded to Biz with coupons, of course.)
Dec 6, 2021, 11:07 am
#2433
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,326
Archon1995 sorry, what you wrote is not correct! 3-segment itineraries can be booked with Aegean miles and they do show up when the search engine is working properly and there aren't enough direct or one-stop connections for an itinerary. Of course the booking system will probably not let you book any 3-segment connection you want between any and all possible airports worldwide, but the catalog is certainly quite long.
I don't know how it was about 5 years ago or earlier, but I have booked a 3-segment ticket myself in 2019!
The only catch is, that Aegean makes you "pay" the miles for a two-segment and a single-segment itineraries combined, because of a correlated restriction in the miles&bonus program. But they are bookable! I even got it to book a three-segment itinerary and charge me for all 3 segments that time, because of the mixed cabin restriction/rule (it was a combination of business class, then first, then business class flights). But, even in hindsight, those were some extremely well-invested 121.000 miles! (actually 242k, since my wife came along
)
I don't know how it was about 5 years ago or earlier, but I have booked a 3-segment ticket myself in 2019!
The only catch is, that Aegean makes you "pay" the miles for a two-segment and a single-segment itineraries combined, because of a correlated restriction in the miles&bonus program. But they are bookable! I even got it to book a three-segment itinerary and charge me for all 3 segments that time, because of the mixed cabin restriction/rule (it was a combination of business class, then first, then business class flights). But, even in hindsight, those were some extremely well-invested 121.000 miles! (actually 242k, since my wife came along
)
Dec 6, 2021, 2:45 pm
#2434
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: CHA
Posts: 151
Very good, thank you. Yes, it was in 2013, though I've never found one through searching since. I do recall the one connection/two segment limit was in place (and that it was discussed here more recently than 2013), and assumed it wasn't available so never considered calling up to see about booking a three segment award.
Now I'm re-thinking possibilities for future travel...
Now I'm re-thinking possibilities for future travel...
Dec 6, 2021, 9:52 pm
#2435
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,326
Just for clarification, you can book such connections online as well. Here's an example from later this month, where despite having both the 3-segment and the mixed cabin issues (the long-haul is in business class) it actually only charges the lowest possible amount of miles, combining the first two economy flights together for 15k and then the business class for 55k.
Three-segment itinerary bookable online.
Also for full disclosure, the ticket I mentioned before, with the 242k miles, were actually 2 tickets booked separately as a 2-seg and 1-seg (I thought it was a single booking, because Thai Airways took care of that "connection" back then, but as you see, such connections can be booked, at least sometimes, and perhaps the call center will be able to see and book even more of them, in fact, I'll spare you the screenshot, but there currently about 25 (!!!) different 3-segment combinations that appear online for an Athens-Dusseldorf itinerary on January 17th, most of which are bookable in one or both classes).
Three-segment itinerary bookable online.
Also for full disclosure, the ticket I mentioned before, with the 242k miles, were actually 2 tickets booked separately as a 2-seg and 1-seg (I thought it was a single booking, because Thai Airways took care of that "connection" back then, but as you see, such connections can be booked, at least sometimes, and perhaps the call center will be able to see and book even more of them, in fact, I'll spare you the screenshot, but there currently about 25 (!!!) different 3-segment combinations that appear online for an Athens-Dusseldorf itinerary on January 17th, most of which are bookable in one or both classes).
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Dec 7, 2021, 9:35 pm
#2436
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 706
I was able to get an AC I class ticket reserved, but there is no ticket numbers. In the confirmation email, there is a warning:
Your reservation has been confirmed, but there was an error when trying to issue the ticket(s). In order to get your ticket number(s), please contact our Reservations Department at +30 210 6261000.
I called and they said that they will ticket next day. Seems not like the norm previously. Do I need to worry?
Thanks
Your reservation has been confirmed, but there was an error when trying to issue the ticket(s). In order to get your ticket number(s), please contact our Reservations Department at +30 210 6261000.
I called and they said that they will ticket next day. Seems not like the norm previously. Do I need to worry?
Thanks
Dec 9, 2021, 7:01 am
#2437
Join Date: Dec 2021
Programs: Aegean Miles & Bonus
Posts: 5
Hello everyone!
Quick question, anybody else notice the change on award tickets from A3's website?
I am based in Milano, and I've flown in the past from MXP to various destinations in North America using either direct flights using UA or LH & UA.
Looking into future dates, i see that flights that were previously there have disappeared and the options you are given almost always include some A3 flight from MXP to ATH and then to another European hub , BEFORE connecting to flights bound to NA.
For instance, flights previously from MXP to FRA and then ORD, now either have vanished or are routed from MXP to ATH to ZRH to ORD, with much fewer options & a penalty in miles! What was once a 35K mile ticket, is now easily almost double that!
I called them, they said maybe seating is limited, but i suspect BS. Even if there were NO seats available you could at least see the whole schedule.
Penny for your thoughts?
Thanks!
/George
Quick question, anybody else notice the change on award tickets from A3's website?
I am based in Milano, and I've flown in the past from MXP to various destinations in North America using either direct flights using UA or LH & UA.
Looking into future dates, i see that flights that were previously there have disappeared and the options you are given almost always include some A3 flight from MXP to ATH and then to another European hub , BEFORE connecting to flights bound to NA.
For instance, flights previously from MXP to FRA and then ORD, now either have vanished or are routed from MXP to ATH to ZRH to ORD, with much fewer options & a penalty in miles! What was once a 35K mile ticket, is now easily almost double that!
I called them, they said maybe seating is limited, but i suspect BS. Even if there were NO seats available you could at least see the whole schedule.
Penny for your thoughts?
Thanks!
/George
Dec 9, 2021, 2:17 pm
#2438
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,326
@ George: If you read the last 10 posts or so, you'll see quite a few mentions of this issue (which exists since black Friday). I contacted Aegean again this week and the agent that received and replied to my previous message wrote me back, that they still have no update from the appropriate department regarding fixing the website/app award search. I then responded to that reply, that they need to remind the people in that department about the issue again, because since (like in George's case) many call center agents do give us the complete BS of "reduced award availability", the fact that for some routes the search does return results with connecting flights (like, or almost like before the issues began) could have someone in that "department" performing a check believing, that there isn't any issue at all (and consequently not apply any fixes and perhaps not even inform anyone, that they didn't do anything). The fact that the search was working like before temporarily on December 1st makes it in my opinion simply ridiculous, that they haven't fixed it yet, after nearly 2 weeks of problems. Even if they had to re-program the entire award engine it wouldn't take that long.
Dec 10, 2021, 3:19 am
#2439
Join Date: Dec 2021
Programs: Aegean Miles & Bonus
Posts: 5
Thank you for the info Giorginho, i also suspected an IT issue, and hopefully, it's just that.
What I fear though is them pulling a new "policy change" BS rule on us and making the award flights program pretty much useless for the A3 members.
I also opened a case through my account, as soon as I get some feedback I'll report back!
/George
What I fear though is them pulling a new "policy change" BS rule on us and making the award flights program pretty much useless for the A3 members.
I also opened a case through my account, as soon as I get some feedback I'll report back!
/George
Dec 10, 2021, 6:28 am
#2440
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,326
I got another reply-confirmation today that they are fixing this... I think the only concerning thing is, that they devaluated the program precisely on black friday 2 years ago, but other than that, I don't think any major change is coming (like them not offering *A awards any more, which would only mean that Aegean would have to exit the alliance).
Dec 13, 2021, 6:03 am
#2441
Join Date: Dec 2021
Programs: Aegean Miles & Bonus
Posts: 5
I got another reply-confirmation today that they are fixing this... I think the only concerning thing is, that they devaluated the program precisely on black friday 2 years ago, but other than that, I don't think any major change is coming (like them not offering *A awards any more, which would only mean that Aegean would have to exit the alliance).
I received a response today to the ticket i raised through their portal with the same BS about flights availability etc etc. The A3 awards program is completely useless in this state, and i want to understand if they are going to do something to fix it, or i should move my business over to another carrier via status match.
Regards,
George
Dec 13, 2021, 6:11 am
#2442
Join Date: Dec 2021
Programs: Aegean Miles&Bonus
Posts: 84
Giorginho, can you please verify that someone from Aegean reached out to you and acknowledged the issue in hand?
I received a response today to the ticket i raised through their portal with the same BS about flights availability etc etc. The A3 awards program is completely useless in this state, and i want to understand if they are going to do something to fix it, or i should move my business over to another carrier via status match.
Regards,
George
I received a response today to the ticket i raised through their portal with the same BS about flights availability etc etc. The A3 awards program is completely useless in this state, and i want to understand if they are going to do something to fix it, or i should move my business over to another carrier via status match.
Regards,
George
they said that they are working hard to fix it
Dec 13, 2021, 2:18 pm
#2444
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,326
Giorginho, can you please verify that someone from Aegean reached out to you and acknowledged the issue in hand?
I received a response today to the ticket i raised through their portal with the same BS about flights availability etc etc. The A3 awards program is completely useless in this state, and i want to understand if they are going to do something to fix it, or i should move my business over to another carrier via status match.
Regards,
George
I received a response today to the ticket i raised through their portal with the same BS about flights availability etc etc. The A3 awards program is completely useless in this state, and i want to understand if they are going to do something to fix it, or i should move my business over to another carrier via status match.
Regards,
George
.If you know what you want to book, you can call and book without the service fee.
Dec 13, 2021, 7:12 pm
#2445
Join Date: Dec 2021
Programs: Aegean Miles&Bonus
Posts: 84