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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Old Mar 2, 2021, 1:48 am
  #2371  
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
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Originally Posted by Chiller3333
That's a nice one! Wasn't aware of it since I naturally think ex-FRA :P
293 EUR is steep but could be worse (for 19 hours in business class).
I remember paying >300 for LH F FRA-JFK (back when it was only 60k). Good old days...
F is different story, 300E on LH were no brainer for me because I'd hardly ever pay full fare. Obviously, 17E for NH ex LAX sounds better. You can also get mix of OS/UA to GRU
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Old Mar 2, 2021, 7:07 am
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Join Date: Oct 2017
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Originally Posted by 747jetter
F is different story, 300E on LH were no brainer for me because I'd hardly ever pay full fare. Obviously, 17E for NH ex LAX sounds better. You can also get mix of OS/UA to GRU
So many things to book, but too little miles in my account
2020 and 2021 really trashed my usual earnings rate (on FRA-NYC pretty much only fly UA P, instead of taking TP/AC/SK and getting 200%).
Oh, and of course I burned 150k for 2 seats on FRA-HND-LAX in Jan as I mentioned earlier :P

Let's hope 2022 will be better. Now that I can finally afford flying C (out of my own pocket), I want those 200%
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Old Jun 11, 2021, 12:03 pm
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: MUC
Programs: LH HON | UA 1K
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Is there any fun F route that can be booked at the moment? Cant find anything
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Old Jun 12, 2021, 2:31 am
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Originally Posted by Alisamix
Is there any fun F route that can be booked at the moment? Cant find anything
Got a hit on my first attempt with Lufthansa first and the beautiful redemption to Sao Paolo. There's availability for 5 days straight, starting tonight .
I'm sure there should be other routes available as well.

Edit: on a different note, I will probably be posting more cancelation experiences next month, since the beautiful itinerary I booked late last summer for early July this year isn't happening (1-2 flights already got canceled from the operating airline, other have ha schedule changes but will also most likely be canceled, since there's a travel ban where I was going to fly to..​​​​​​.

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Old Jun 12, 2021, 5:13 am
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: MUC
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Well I was thinking stuff like FRA-HND-LAX High-value bookings, so to say.
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Old Jun 12, 2021, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by Alisamix
Well I was thinking stuff like FRA-HND-LAX High-value bookings, so to say.
June 1st 2022 - LHR-(HND)-LAX, you're welcome
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 12:10 am
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Refund data point

I was going to cancel these tickets myself anyway, but I waited a bit and the flights got canceled from the airlines (since nobody is allowed to enter Indonesia), so I was spared the cancelation fees and asked for a refund on June 28th via the refund firm online. I think the miles got refunded yesterday, so on the 14th day, still waiting on the €€€ 😏.

Edit: Turns out the €€€ got refunded just 1-2 days later (transactions shows up as July 13th), so basically just over 2 weeks. Nice.

Edit2: The e-mails stating that the refunds were processed and that the money was refunded just came in, 6 days after the money had already shown up . Wth... others wait like 30 days after getting those e-mails (might have something to do with my payment method, a greek credit card).

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Old Jul 29, 2021, 6:33 am
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Central Europe
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Posts: 482
Cancelled my tickets to the US because of travel ban on 1 July, 4 weeks later still waiting for miles and EUR to be refunded...
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Old Jul 30, 2021, 1:51 am
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: South Yorkshire, UK
Programs: A3*G, LH FTL, VS Red, Avis Preferred, Hertz President's Circle, (RIP Diamond Club)
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Originally Posted by mirror74
Cancelled my tickets to the US because of travel ban on 1 July, 4 weeks later still waiting for miles and EUR to be refunded...
That’s normal right now.
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Old Jul 30, 2021, 6:07 am
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Originally Posted by roberino
That’s normal right now.
I have no problem waiting for $$$, but not refunding miles is just... shady.
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Old Jul 30, 2021, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by mirror74
I have no problem waiting for $$$, but not refunding miles is just... shady.
Normally these things would get processed quickly because there's not a long queue of cancellations. It's different now and they have, if anything, fewer staff to deal with it. Frustrating for you, but not surprising or shady.
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Old Aug 2, 2021, 6:06 am
  #2382  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: BRU
Programs: A3 *G & FB G
Posts: 640
Hi there.

I am familiar with the sweet spot FRA-HND-LAX flights in F you can book with Aegean. However, is there something similar which does not land in the US? I can't seem to find something to a Canadian city or a South American city.

The reason I want to avoid the US is because of their entry restrictions if you have visited some of their "blacklisted" countries (eg Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Iran,..)
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Old Aug 2, 2021, 6:07 am
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: MUC
Programs: LH HON | UA 1K
Posts: 181
Originally Posted by unusualtravelblog
Hi there.

I am familiar with the sweet spot FRA-HND-LAX flights in F you can book with Aegean. However, is there something similar which does not land in the US? I can't seem to find something to a Canadian city or a South American city.

The reason I want to avoid the US is because of their entry restrictions if you have visited some of their "blacklisted" countries (eg Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Iran,..)
I am also interested in this.
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Old Aug 2, 2021, 8:23 am
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Join Date: Mar 2019
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Originally Posted by unusualtravelblog
Hi there.

I am familiar with the sweet spot FRA-HND-LAX flights in F you can book with Aegean. However, is there something similar which does not land in the US? I can't seem to find something to a Canadian city or a South American city.

The reason I want to avoid the US is because of their entry restrictions if you have visited some of their "blacklisted" countries (eg Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Iran,..)
If you want F you don't have any other option. As there are very few Airlines with F cabins these days. What is left only goes to the biggest markets. That's to Europe and USA if your not flying LH group.
If your fine with C then there are some flights that go to YVR (Vancouver). I think both Ana and EVA air operate the route. You just have to get creative with finding a departure point from Europe. There is limited availability on the Asia-YVR legs so it harder to get a connection that work (less service with more paid traffic).
South America is just a no go as nobody flies those route as there isn't enough traffic. It would be similar in length to US-Australia flights but there just isn't enough trade links between the continents to sustain premium demand on direct routes.
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Old Aug 21, 2021, 6:14 am
  #2385  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: BRU
Programs: A3 *G & FB G
Posts: 640
Anyone else struggling to find any availibility in 2022?
I'm looking for tickets from BRU to TPE or ICN in C and I only see TK and LO availibility...
For BRU-HND I can't even find C class availibility, only in Y!
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