Mar 2, 2016, 12:16 pm
Last edit by: sokolov
No YQ airlines/routes/countries
NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET
UA:
All flights except from U.S to: ICN
AC:
Within North America
TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)
For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)
All TATL flights
List of YQ-free cities/countries:
Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)
For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH
Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK
Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)
NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination
Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ
Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)
20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)
Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)
Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.
YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.
TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET
UA:
All flights except from U.S to: ICN
AC:
Within North America
TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)
For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)
All TATL flights
List of YQ-free cities/countries:
Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)
For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH
Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK
Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)
NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination
Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ
Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)
20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)
Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)
Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.
YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.
TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences
Jun 16, 2020, 9:06 pm
#2312
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Alaska
Posts: 2,188
Some routes, e.g. North America-Australia has higher limit than North America-Europe.
Jun 19, 2020, 3:42 pm
#2313
Join Date: Nov 2016
Programs: Nectar Card
Posts: 1,093
My bet is that MPM is based on routes. My own experience on US-Europe is SFO-SIN-IST, that was only possible because TK was offline for a period. Right after TK is online, this route is no longer allowed.
Some routes, e.g. North America-Australia has higher limit than North America-Europe.
Some routes, e.g. North America-Australia has higher limit than North America-Europe.
Jun 19, 2020, 9:21 pm
#2314
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: ±38,000 feet
Programs: LH HON, BA GGL, AF Plat, EK Plat
Posts: 6,428
My bet is that MPM is based on routes. My own experience on US-Europe is SFO-SIN-IST, that was only possible because TK was offline for a period. Right after TK is online, this route is no longer allowed.
Some routes, e.g. North America-Australia has higher limit than North America-Europe.
Some routes, e.g. North America-Australia has higher limit than North America-Europe.
Jun 19, 2020, 9:47 pm
#2315
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Alaska
Posts: 2,188
I guess it was temporarily allowed because not enough choices presented.
Jun 20, 2020, 1:20 am
#2316
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: DK
Programs: A3 Gold, BA Silver
Posts: 869
About your question. These a flight that are excessively hard to find award space with any star alliance program. As they don't have economy and SIA is stingy when it come to releasing business place (No PE redemption with A3). Now you want to find 2 back to back long haul SIA flights with business availability. I would love to have your optimism.
Jun 20, 2020, 2:27 am
#2317
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Alaska
Posts: 2,188
In this it has been discussed that they have some funky programming. It will show everything it has and then just cut of the list a some point not showing any other options to anyone.
About your question. These a flight that are excessively hard to find award space with any star alliance program. As they don't have economy and SIA is stingy when it come to releasing business place (No PE redemption with A3). Now you want to find 2 back to back long haul SIA flights with business availability. I would love to have your optimism.
About your question. These a flight that are excessively hard to find award space with any star alliance program. As they don't have economy and SIA is stingy when it come to releasing business place (No PE redemption with A3). Now you want to find 2 back to back long haul SIA flights with business availability. I would love to have your optimism.
SQ's premium class were fully available in the last one or two months. e.g. you could book EWR-SIN-AKL/CHC, which is more than 14K miles, the longest I find which is bookable.
Now it is no longer available as SQ has pullled availability, but it was there and was available.
Jun 20, 2020, 7:19 am
#2318
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: DK
Programs: A3 Gold, BA Silver
Posts: 869
Funky or not, it has some predictability. e.g. no east coast US to Europe over Pacific.
SQ's premium class were fully available in the last one or two months. e.g. you could book EWR-SIN-AKL/CHC, which is more than 14K miles, the longest I find which is bookable.
Now it is no longer available as SQ has pullled availability, but it was there and was available.
SQ's premium class were fully available in the last one or two months. e.g. you could book EWR-SIN-AKL/CHC, which is more than 14K miles, the longest I find which is bookable.
Now it is no longer available as SQ has pullled availability, but it was there and was available.
For the NZ-US route there isn't like there would be huge amount of other one stop options so the engine most likely was more willing just to show it. While EU-US there isn't a shortage.
It would be nice if the engine would show all the options and give some more information but what can you do. It not like there going to fix it any time soon. Good I hate that you have to go out to the account screen if you want to change destination.
Playing with the dates. What I have seen is that it more willing to show via Asia business routings. I have a feeling it because first class is only from/to top markets and they have way more one stop options on these routes and the engine just pushes it off the list.
Jun 21, 2020, 8:28 am
#2319
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Central Europe
Programs: AY Gold, A3 Gold, UA Gold, Hyatt Globalist, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 482
My award tickets booked with A3 miles cancelled by the airline (TK) for August 12. 48 hours later no miles refunded yet, and taxes (appx 500 usd) will take up to 3 months... yikes!!
Jul 8, 2020, 4:52 pm
#2320
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: PEK
Programs: A3*G, UA Gold EY Silver
Posts: 8,958
May 19: I booked SOF-IST-SFO on TK in Y for 28 JUN - 92.5€ in taxes
June 08: flight canceled. No alternatives offered. Still waiting on a refund of taxes.
June 08: I booked SOF-MUC-SFO on LH in J for 03 JUL - 298.01€ in taxes
June 18: LH retimes flight and screws my connection. A3 refuses to allow an overnight in FRA and only offers to refund. Still waiting for the refund in taxes.
June 22: I booked SOF-IST-LAX on TK in Y for 05 JUL - 109.69€ in taxes (incl 20€ call centre fee which I will try to dispute)
July 3: TK cancels IST-LAX (2 days before the flight?!). After some pushing, A3 offers SOF-VIE-FRA-LAX on OS+OS+LH with no add-collect in taxes.
Lessons learned:
1. A3 gold line answers almost immediately, unlike TK and OS (unreachable) & LH (1 hr wait)
2. A3 can book a 2-connection flight when the circumstances are right.
3. A3 seems to be refunding taxes to others, but it is taking a while. Still waiting for around 400€ in taxes to be refunded.
4. A3 is ridiculously inflexible if flight cancellations occur outside the 48-hour window prior to the flight. Even within 48 hours, they have lazy agents who don't want to do anything and you have to HUCA.
5. Miles are not always immediately re-deposited and you have to push them to redeposit them to have a new ticket issued immediately.
Overall - really poor experience A3's lack of flexibility, high YQ charges, and lack of alternatives when things go bust with other airlines.
The flights turned out to be fine in the end. FRA-LAX was at most 20% full.
June 08: flight canceled. No alternatives offered. Still waiting on a refund of taxes.
June 08: I booked SOF-MUC-SFO on LH in J for 03 JUL - 298.01€ in taxes
June 18: LH retimes flight and screws my connection. A3 refuses to allow an overnight in FRA and only offers to refund. Still waiting for the refund in taxes.
June 22: I booked SOF-IST-LAX on TK in Y for 05 JUL - 109.69€ in taxes (incl 20€ call centre fee which I will try to dispute)
July 3: TK cancels IST-LAX (2 days before the flight?!). After some pushing, A3 offers SOF-VIE-FRA-LAX on OS+OS+LH with no add-collect in taxes.
Lessons learned:
1. A3 gold line answers almost immediately, unlike TK and OS (unreachable) & LH (1 hr wait)
2. A3 can book a 2-connection flight when the circumstances are right.
3. A3 seems to be refunding taxes to others, but it is taking a while. Still waiting for around 400€ in taxes to be refunded.
4. A3 is ridiculously inflexible if flight cancellations occur outside the 48-hour window prior to the flight. Even within 48 hours, they have lazy agents who don't want to do anything and you have to HUCA.
5. Miles are not always immediately re-deposited and you have to push them to redeposit them to have a new ticket issued immediately.
Overall - really poor experience A3's lack of flexibility, high YQ charges, and lack of alternatives when things go bust with other airlines.
The flights turned out to be fine in the end. FRA-LAX was at most 20% full.
Jul 13, 2020, 1:18 am
#2321
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: FRA, JFK
Programs: BAEC GGL, A3*S, Bonvoy Gold, HH Gold
Posts: 1,007
Ther VIE-BKK-TPE legs of my VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO journey in September just got cancelled.
Proposed alternative (from EVA) is leaving a week earlier in August.
Will try to get the entire itinarary moved to next year, wish me luck :P
Proposed alternative (from EVA) is leaving a week earlier in August.
Will try to get the entire itinarary moved to next year, wish me luck :P
Jul 23, 2020, 5:48 pm
#2322
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: DK
Programs: A3 Gold, BA Silver
Posts: 869
Well Aegean has made there search engine worse.
If previously you could see economy next to business next to first class, now it hidden under a tab. So it now harder to find date that have business availability as you have to scroll down the list to find a combination that says from xx miles or something that is more then economy redemption priced.
In short they have taken away the ability to have a glancing view of a date to see if it has something that isn't just economy. Everything else by the look of it is the same.
If previously you could see economy next to business next to first class, now it hidden under a tab. So it now harder to find date that have business availability as you have to scroll down the list to find a combination that says from xx miles or something that is more then economy redemption priced.
In short they have taken away the ability to have a glancing view of a date to see if it has something that isn't just economy. Everything else by the look of it is the same.
Jul 24, 2020, 10:50 am
#2323
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: YYZ, HKG, MFM
Programs: AC35K, AS MVP, WS Gold, ITA EP, Marriott Plat, Hyatt-Explorist, IHG Diamond
Posts: 2,019
May 19: I booked SOF-IST-SFO on TK in Y for 28 JUN - 92.5€ in taxes
June 08: flight canceled. No alternatives offered. Still waiting on a refund of taxes.
June 08: I booked SOF-MUC-SFO on LH in J for 03 JUL - 298.01€ in taxes
June 18: LH retimes flight and screws my connection. A3 refuses to allow an overnight in FRA and only offers to refund. Still waiting for the refund in taxes.
June 22: I booked SOF-IST-LAX on TK in Y for 05 JUL - 109.69€ in taxes (incl 20€ call centre fee which I will try to dispute)
July 3: TK cancels IST-LAX (2 days before the flight?!). After some pushing, A3 offers SOF-VIE-FRA-LAX on OS+OS+LH with no add-collect in taxes.
Lessons learned:
1. A3 gold line answers almost immediately, unlike TK and OS (unreachable) & LH (1 hr wait)
2. A3 can book a 2-connection flight when the circumstances are right.
3. A3 seems to be refunding taxes to others, but it is taking a while. Still waiting for around 400€ in taxes to be refunded.
4. A3 is ridiculously inflexible if flight cancellations occur outside the 48-hour window prior to the flight. Even within 48 hours, they have lazy agents who don't want to do anything and you have to HUCA.
5. Miles are not always immediately re-deposited and you have to push them to redeposit them to have a new ticket issued immediately.
Overall - really poor experience A3's lack of flexibility, high YQ charges, and lack of alternatives when things go bust with other airlines.
The flights turned out to be fine in the end. FRA-LAX was at most 20% full.
June 08: flight canceled. No alternatives offered. Still waiting on a refund of taxes.
June 08: I booked SOF-MUC-SFO on LH in J for 03 JUL - 298.01€ in taxes
June 18: LH retimes flight and screws my connection. A3 refuses to allow an overnight in FRA and only offers to refund. Still waiting for the refund in taxes.
June 22: I booked SOF-IST-LAX on TK in Y for 05 JUL - 109.69€ in taxes (incl 20€ call centre fee which I will try to dispute)
July 3: TK cancels IST-LAX (2 days before the flight?!). After some pushing, A3 offers SOF-VIE-FRA-LAX on OS+OS+LH with no add-collect in taxes.
Lessons learned:
1. A3 gold line answers almost immediately, unlike TK and OS (unreachable) & LH (1 hr wait)
2. A3 can book a 2-connection flight when the circumstances are right.
3. A3 seems to be refunding taxes to others, but it is taking a while. Still waiting for around 400€ in taxes to be refunded.
4. A3 is ridiculously inflexible if flight cancellations occur outside the 48-hour window prior to the flight. Even within 48 hours, they have lazy agents who don't want to do anything and you have to HUCA.
5. Miles are not always immediately re-deposited and you have to push them to redeposit them to have a new ticket issued immediately.
Overall - really poor experience A3's lack of flexibility, high YQ charges, and lack of alternatives when things go bust with other airlines.
The flights turned out to be fine in the end. FRA-LAX was at most 20% full.
Jul 27, 2020, 3:48 pm
#2324
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,325
Since no trip between continents is on the horizon for the next (quite a few) months and speculating, but mostly hoping, that a vaccine will be made available until next summer, I went ahead and used my remaining miles to book next summer's holiday (in July 2021)...
Outbound: Hannover - Istanbul - Bali (Turkish Airlines)
Inbound: Bali - Taipei - Paris (EVA Air)
Business class for 2
, each passenger cost:
Outbound was 65.000 + 249,56€
Inbound 65.000 + 86,65€.
I think the only cheaper option right now would have been to fly via Tokyo and Jakarta with ANA and then take Lion Air or Batik Air for the short "hop" to Bali, this would have saved around 100€ per person.
Sadly, flights with Singapore Airlines via Singapore had already become unavailable with still a couple of weeks time, before my desired dates were added to the calendar...
Outbound: Hannover - Istanbul - Bali (Turkish Airlines)
Inbound: Bali - Taipei - Paris (EVA Air)
Business class for 2
, each passenger cost:Outbound was 65.000 + 249,56€
Inbound 65.000 + 86,65€.
I think the only cheaper option right now would have been to fly via Tokyo and Jakarta with ANA and then take Lion Air or Batik Air for the short "hop" to Bali, this would have saved around 100€ per person.
Sadly, flights with Singapore Airlines via Singapore had already become unavailable with still a couple of weeks time, before my desired dates were added to the calendar...
Aug 17, 2020, 9:50 am
#2325
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: FLYINGBLUE Gold QRPC Gold OMAN SINDBAD Gold
Posts: 408
BTW tried to reach Aegean call center today about it, and its not answering, just waiting message for about 20mn, then Aegean hangs up on you.. Very impolite from them..