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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Old Aug 21, 2021, 8:44 am
  #2386  
 
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There's a Turkish/Asiana connecting combo on June 14th to ICN. I'm assuming you were hoping for an all Asiana or Eva Air option, or ANA in the case of Tokyo, but I think the main issue here is Brussels, since those airlines don't fly to that airport (well, ANA does, but finding availability in business class far in advance is almost more difficult than finding availability in first).
I'd recommend taking a look at flightsconnections and try moving your departure to a neighbouring airport, like Dusseldorf, Amsterdam, Paris etc. (The Taipei - Paris connection was one I had booked in Eva Air business class, but was forced to cancel due to the virus... a very long direct flight that would certainly have been worth it )
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Old Sep 20, 2021, 9:37 am
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Guys..any idea LAX/SFO - Europe in Sushi F, as soon as possible? I have a ticket for 30/10, not gonna happen.
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Old Sep 20, 2021, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by 747jetter
Guys..any idea LAX/SFO - Europe in Sushi F, as soon as possible? I have a ticket for 30/10, not gonna happen.
think only left LHR-LAX in Sushi F paying hefty APD
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Old Sep 20, 2021, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by freed0m
think only left LHR-LAX in Sushi F paying hefty APD
what happened to vice-versa? I lost it already twice, need to do it so I can die in piece.
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 6:53 pm
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After a cancellation of NH224 I'm now on the waitinglist for NH204 in O.
Didn't think that was possible, but I don't think NH will bring the 77W back to FRA anytime soon.
No clue whether it was A3 or NH who took care of that (I guess the latter).
Also said I'd be fine with NH212 out of LHR which still has First on sale (the ex-FRA flights are zero'd out in F).
Let's see how this develops as, still plenty of time till January.
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Old Oct 14, 2021, 2:42 am
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Originally Posted by Chiller3333
After a cancellation of NH224 I'm now on the waitinglist for NH204 in O.
Didn't think that was possible, but I don't think NH will bring the 77W back to FRA anytime soon.
No clue whether it was A3 or NH who took care of that (I guess the latter).
Also said I'd be fine with NH212 out of LHR which still has First on sale (the ex-FRA flights are zero'd out in F).
Let's see how this develops as, still plenty of time till January.
I have a connection with the ANA Frankfurt Sales dept.
From the winter schedule, FRA/HND is NH204 daily + NH224 3 times a week = 10 flights a week.
On the flight schedule, web says still B777, however, it will be changed to B787-9 for both flights soon because of increasing number of flights, ANA says.
November is already changed.
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Old Oct 14, 2021, 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by daiseiko
I have a connection with the ANA Frankfurt Sales dept.
From the winter schedule, FRA/HND is NH204 daily + NH224 3 times a week = 10 flights a week.
On the flight schedule, web says still B777, however, it will be changed to B787-9 for both flights soon because of increasing number of flights, ANA says.
November is already changed.
Funny story, I was in touch with ANA US (since I'm US-based) and they put us on the waiting list for NH204 (I basically told them already that that wouldn't help since First was zeroed out etc).
After about a week they heard back from revenue management and told me the same thing (as you confirmed now as well).
No surprises there.
They ended up putting us on hte waiting list for NH212 out of LHR and within a day the seats were made available and I called Aegean to issue the tickets.
I'm still trying to get Aegean to add FRA-LHR to the flights (plenty of I availability on those), but let's see.
At least we now have F seats of the flight out of London so all good
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Old Nov 5, 2021, 10:31 am
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Anybody sees any LH F seats to MEX/USA? I think I am aware of destinations served currently but never seen ZERO seats before.
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Old Nov 6, 2021, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by 747jetter
Anybody sees any LH F seats to MEX/USA? I think I am aware of destinations served currently but never seen ZERO seats before.
Usually you only see LH F a few days in advance.
I checked the coming days and indeed, the flight FRA-MEX which has F cabin doesn't seem available.
Something weird shows up though, F availability FRA-MUC-MEX, which doesn't seem correct as I can't book F seats on the MUC-MEX flights. Seems like a bug to me.


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Old Nov 6, 2021, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by unusualtravelblog
Usually you only see LH F a few days in advance.
I checked the coming days and indeed, the flight FRA-MEX which has F cabin doesn't seem available.
Something weird shows up though, F availability FRA-MUC-MEX, which doesn't seem correct as I can't book F seats on the MUC-MEX flights. Seems like a bug to me.

Yes, that is a bug. TAP also shows F which aint true cause they don't have any. So it looks like very busy time for LH cause I haven't spotted any seat in past week.
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Old Nov 6, 2021, 2:35 pm
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I saw this too, after a quick search for awards on that route after 747's post, but refrained from mentioning it. Known bug and if you click on the down arrow in the summary at the right of the website, you'll see that it indicates booking class I for both legs (which is also the only way you'd get the "normal" miles price, since a mixed cabin results in added award miles as per the award chart) and so by booking that I which shows up as First, you'd simply spend the additional miles for nothing and you'd probably have to go through customer service...
Ever since I first came across this bug with TAP (I've since had this error with various other airlines as well from time to time), I always check out the booking class which is displayed in that short summary on the right side. That's the only piece of information to go by when on the awards page.
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Old Nov 9, 2021, 6:49 pm
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Originally Posted by daiseiko
I have a connection with the ANA Frankfurt Sales dept.
From the winter schedule, FRA/HND is NH204 daily + NH224 3 times a week = 10 flights a week.
On the flight schedule, web says still B777, however, it will be changed to B787-9 for both flights soon because of increasing number of flights, ANA says.
November is already changed.
I have FRA-HND-LAX booked in May22, currently there's B777 in my booking. Should I rebook to LHR-HND-LAX ASAP? WDYT?
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Old Nov 9, 2021, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by pull_over
I have FRA-HND-LAX booked in May22, currently there's B777 in my booking. Should I rebook to LHR-HND-LAX ASAP? WDYT?
Had the same for Jan and ANA was able to move me onto the LHR flight when they cancelled my flight.
Don't know if they'd do the same in case of a downgrade though.
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Old Nov 9, 2021, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Chiller3333
Had the same for Jan and ANA was able to move me onto the LHR flight when they cancelled my flight.
Don't know if they'd do the same in case of a downgrade though.
Did they open one seat in O for you? I don't see a single seat on LHR-HND-LAX route. There's 77W scheduled from February, not sure if it'll stay like this.
I also see they don't sell FRA-HND in F untill end of the calendar, so I'd rather move to LHR asap, but pretty risky to waitlist just to lose exFRA seat.
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Old Nov 10, 2021, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by pull_over
Did they open one seat in O for you? I don't see a single seat on LHR-HND-LAX route. There's 77W scheduled from February, not sure if it'll stay like this.
I also see they don't sell FRA-HND in F untill end of the calendar, so I'd rather move to LHR asap, but pretty risky to waitlist just to lose exFRA seat.
Two actually :P
It took them quite a while but NH was really nice and helpful.
At first they tried moving me to one of the remaining 77W flights out of FRA (but I think because of them trying they downgraded Jan to 789 a few days later).
I had asked for the ex-LHR flight from the beginning but only then did they secure the 2 seats for us.
I think there were only 3 seats available when they opened O for us.
Just had to cann A3 to reissue the ticket after that.
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