Last edit by: hillrider
Here are some more hidden features of the ITA software.
The extensions to the itasoftware routing language are accessed by postpending commands after a '/'. There's a wide set of commands available, but there's no description of them available on the ITA web site. Unfortunately, each command applies only to one part of the trip, so they must usually be entered in each box.
EXCLUDE SPECIFIC AIRLINES
Command is "-airlines XX ..."
Ex: prohibit jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ -airlines B6 DL
to: LAX ::/ -airlines B6 DL
LIMIT TO SPECIFIC AIRLINES
Command is "airlines XX ..."
Ex: consider only jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ airlines B6 DL
to: LAX ::/ airlines B6 DL
LIMIT TO A SINGLE ALLIANCE
Command is "alliance star-alliance|oneworld|skyteam"
Ex: oneworld carriers only
from: BOS ::/ alliance oneworld
to: LAX ::/ alliance oneworld
EXCLUDE CODESHARES
Command is "-codeshare"
Ex: prohibit jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ -codeshare
to: LAX ::/ -codeshare
LIMIT DURATION OF ITINERARY, IN MINUTES
Command is "maxdur XXX"
Ex: no more than 5hrs for each part of trip
from: BOS ::/ maxdur 300
to: LAX ::/ maxdur 300
EXCLUDE OVERNIGHT STOPS, AIRPORT CHANGES, REDEYES, PROPELLER PLANES, TRAINS, HELICOPTERS, ANY KIND OF SURFACE TRAVEL
Commands are "-overnight", "-change", "-redeye", "-prop", "-train", "-helicopter", "-surface"
Ex: no overnight stops, no airport changes, no redeyes, no propeller planes
from: BOS ::/ -overnight, -change, -redeye, -prop
to: LAX ::/ -overnight, -change, -redeye, -prop
SET MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM TIME FOR CONNECTIONS, IN MINUTES
Commands are "minconnect XX", "maxconnect XX"
Ex: no less than one hour, no more than two hour connections
from: BOS ::/ minconnect 60, maxconnect 120
to: LAX ::/ minconnect 60, maxconnect 120
EXTRA CONNECTION TIME
Command is "padconnect XX"
Ex: require at least 20 minutes more than airline specified minimum connection time
from: BOS ::/ padconnect 20
to: LAX ::/ padconnect 20
PUTTING LOTS OF THINGS TOGETHER
Separate with commas.
Ex:
from: BOS :: UA UA / f bc=l|bc=y, -redeye, -prop
to: LAX :: UA+ / f ua.bos+lax.yup, padconnect 20, -overnight
The extensions to the itasoftware routing language are accessed by postpending commands after a '/'. There's a wide set of commands available, but there's no description of them available on the ITA web site. Unfortunately, each command applies only to one part of the trip, so they must usually be entered in each box.
EXCLUDE SPECIFIC AIRLINES
Command is "-airlines XX ..."
Ex: prohibit jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ -airlines B6 DL
to: LAX ::/ -airlines B6 DL
LIMIT TO SPECIFIC AIRLINES
Command is "airlines XX ..."
Ex: consider only jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ airlines B6 DL
to: LAX ::/ airlines B6 DL
LIMIT TO A SINGLE ALLIANCE
Command is "alliance star-alliance|oneworld|skyteam"
Ex: oneworld carriers only
from: BOS ::/ alliance oneworld
to: LAX ::/ alliance oneworld
EXCLUDE CODESHARES
Command is "-codeshare"
Ex: prohibit jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ -codeshare
to: LAX ::/ -codeshare
LIMIT DURATION OF ITINERARY, IN MINUTES
Command is "maxdur XXX"
Ex: no more than 5hrs for each part of trip
from: BOS ::/ maxdur 300
to: LAX ::/ maxdur 300
EXCLUDE OVERNIGHT STOPS, AIRPORT CHANGES, REDEYES, PROPELLER PLANES, TRAINS, HELICOPTERS, ANY KIND OF SURFACE TRAVEL
Commands are "-overnight", "-change", "-redeye", "-prop", "-train", "-helicopter", "-surface"
Ex: no overnight stops, no airport changes, no redeyes, no propeller planes
from: BOS ::/ -overnight, -change, -redeye, -prop
to: LAX ::/ -overnight, -change, -redeye, -prop
SET MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM TIME FOR CONNECTIONS, IN MINUTES
Commands are "minconnect XX", "maxconnect XX"
Ex: no less than one hour, no more than two hour connections
from: BOS ::/ minconnect 60, maxconnect 120
to: LAX ::/ minconnect 60, maxconnect 120
EXTRA CONNECTION TIME
Command is "padconnect XX"
Ex: require at least 20 minutes more than airline specified minimum connection time
from: BOS ::/ padconnect 20
to: LAX ::/ padconnect 20
PUTTING LOTS OF THINGS TOGETHER
Separate with commas.
Ex:
from: BOS :: UA UA / f bc=l|bc=y, -redeye, -prop
to: LAX :: UA+ / f ua.bos+lax.yup, padconnect 20, -overnight
TIP: More hidden features of ITA
#436
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I thought there's like a code at the bottom of the itinerary that travel agents can understand.
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I thought so too but I have a price from ITA for lhr-syd-lax done on the "multi-city" screen and the travel agent say the fare is only valid as a round trip and they can only ticket it at 1500 more than ita says.
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#439
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reply with a quote from the "Combinations" category of the fare rules?
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It's my husband's work travel agent. (CWT) They are not the best but he cannot fire them.
So if I see it on ITA as a multi-city it should be valid, no exceptions, correct?
Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier QF DSA21GB LON to SYD (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code D
Covers LHR-DXB (Business), DXB-SYD (Business)
$2,526.92
Fare 2: Carrier AA DSUSOW SYD to LAX (rules)
Passenger type ADT, one-way fare, booking code D
Covers SYD-LAX (Business)
$5,766.29
Australian Int'l Passenger Service Charge (WY)
$23.00
QF YQ surcharge (YQ)
$562.50
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge (UB)
$65.90
United Kingdom Air Passengers Duty (GB)
$222.50
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
$5.00
US Immigration Fee (XY)
$7.00
US Customs Fee (YC)
$5.50
Australia AU (AU)
$42.30
Australian Int'l Passenger Service Charge (WY)
$23.00
AA YR surcharge (YR)
$350.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)
$17.70
Subtotal per passenger
$9,618.40
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
$9,618.40
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
LON QF X/DXB Q30.70 QF SYD 2445.76DSA21GB AA LAX M 5651.16DSUSOW NUC 8127.62 END ROE 0.651331 XT 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA 17.70US 222.50GB 65.90UB 42.30AU 46.00WY 562.50YQ 350.00YR
Total Airfare & Taxes
$9,618.40
So if I see it on ITA as a multi-city it should be valid, no exceptions, correct?
Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier QF DSA21GB LON to SYD (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code D
Covers LHR-DXB (Business), DXB-SYD (Business)
$2,526.92
Fare 2: Carrier AA DSUSOW SYD to LAX (rules)
Passenger type ADT, one-way fare, booking code D
Covers SYD-LAX (Business)
$5,766.29
Australian Int'l Passenger Service Charge (WY)
$23.00
QF YQ surcharge (YQ)
$562.50
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge (UB)
$65.90
United Kingdom Air Passengers Duty (GB)
$222.50
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
$5.00
US Immigration Fee (XY)
$7.00
US Customs Fee (YC)
$5.50
Australia AU (AU)
$42.30
Australian Int'l Passenger Service Charge (WY)
$23.00
AA YR surcharge (YR)
$350.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)
$17.70
Subtotal per passenger
$9,618.40
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
$9,618.40
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
LON QF X/DXB Q30.70 QF SYD 2445.76DSA21GB AA LAX M 5651.16DSUSOW NUC 8127.62 END ROE 0.651331 XT 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA 17.70US 222.50GB 65.90UB 42.30AU 46.00WY 562.50YQ 350.00YR
Total Airfare & Taxes
$9,618.40
#442
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I wouldn't say "no exceptions" but it's relatively rare for ITA to mess up a fare calculation
Sometimes the availability is a problem—but that wasn't suggested here from what you said.
Wagonlit is not a small organisation, ask for your request to be passed onto someone else who can do it?
Sometimes the availability is a problem—but that wasn't suggested here from what you said.
Wagonlit is not a small organisation, ask for your request to be passed onto someone else who can do it?
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He already has a very reasonable lax to bom and bom to lhr fare on Qatar (3700) in biz, needs to spend a week in bom, week in lhr, week in syd then come home. Concur priced everything at 25k. Lol he turned to me and told me to work my magic.
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25k is utterly absurd. He could get a AONE4 round the world ticket in First and dispose of the final sector for less.