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#511
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, HH Diamond
Posts: 879
Yes it does. Hopefully "The Team" rally does take action other than keep monitoring Ft and let us know.
Nothing against the Hilton Reps, I appreciate them being here. I know they can't make decisions. Actually I'm not sure if anyone can at Hilton?
#512
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: HH Lifetime Diamond, DL PM, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 920
I appreciate them being here too, and we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes in regards to our feedback. The reps wouldn't be here if Hilton didn't want to at least hear our opinons and improve things.
#513
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: UA 1K 1MMer & LT UC (when flying UA); Hyatt Credit Cardist; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold via UA 1K
Posts: 6,956
Anybody who has ever worked in a corporate environment knows how cumbersome it is to greenlight any policy change (especially one which will have an impact on one or more department's internal billing). The department recommending the change needs to first present a solid business case for it. This is usually followed by numerous meetings, with the Power Point or Visio getting tweaked over and over again as it slowly works its way up the food chain.
If it's timed right, a final, approved version may actually sneak in right before the closure of the next fiscal year's forecast, or before the revised procedures manual goes to print. Otherwise, it collects dust for another year.
Hilton has only had a representative on this board for 3 1/2 months. Hopefully the data which Anthony and Erin need to best represent our constructive feedback is being gathered and quantified, and will eventually result in positive changes to the HHonors program.
If it's timed right, a final, approved version may actually sneak in right before the closure of the next fiscal year's forecast, or before the revised procedures manual goes to print. Otherwise, it collects dust for another year.
Hilton has only had a representative on this board for 3 1/2 months. Hopefully the data which Anthony and Erin need to best represent our constructive feedback is being gathered and quantified, and will eventually result in positive changes to the HHonors program.
#514
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: TUL
Programs: AA EXP 2MM; Marriott Titanium; Hilton Diamond; Hyatt Explorist; Vistana 5* Elite; Nat'l Exec Elite
Posts: 6,177
Exactly and well said. 3 1/2 months for a corporation the size of Hilton is glacial as far as getting policies changed. Let's revisit these issues in a year and if no progress then we really have a beef.
#515
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Wisconsin and Southern France
Programs: Delta Platinum, Delta MM; HH Diamond, Starwood Platinum, ICH Platinum Ambassador, Hertz Gold
Posts: 745
#516
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Charleston
Programs: UNited, Hilton, Marriott and Hyatt
Posts: 1
Hilton Diamond Desk is impotent and not a benefit. Why my loyalty is changing.
Once again as a Hilton Diamond member ive been disappointed by the pure lack of assistance by Hilton HHonors and the HHonors Diamond desk. (My guess its the same reps but different phone numbers now since the responses are no different). It used be before that "hedge fund" bought/invested in Hilton that if you had a problem they would gladly get on the phone with the hotel to resolve. Matter of fact they generally would say, we are sorry for the hotels response we can do this for you. Now the response is "we cant do anything but we can give you the hotel phone number" . Dah, I have the number and the hotel is sticking it to me for a flight issue I had and notified them asap to make a change. I would not be calling you if the hotel went out of there way to attempt to make it right.
Ive had three issues with Hilton this year (which is a record) but Ill list the two that made me upset and the results are now actually inferior to Marriott (That's really sad as a Platnium but expectation have been low for a decade with Marriott) and Hyatt which has been clearly been amazing and the leader for satisfaction results for me since they get on the phone with you and solve the problem. Ive went for over three years with no issues with Hilton. Now had to deal with two Hilton brand issues this year . Yes one Bed bug event at the Columbia, SC Embassy Suites http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...fers/index.htm which was a ....... to deal with at home but plan on mailing some back with my bloody shirts/sheets and now I missed the reservation at the Miami Airport http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...PES/index.html
My experiences at HHonors has been less rewarding and appreciative. Not to mention the devaluation of the points. My take on the help HHonors Diamond desk has been, so what you Diamond traveler, you deal with it yourself and we don't care since I know you cant understand my English since we gladly outsourced everything and we now sound like robots when you call..
My take is loyalty is for fools lately and perhaps ill just pay for that internet and silly buffet breakfast and save some good dough.
Joe
Ive had three issues with Hilton this year (which is a record) but Ill list the two that made me upset and the results are now actually inferior to Marriott (That's really sad as a Platnium but expectation have been low for a decade with Marriott) and Hyatt which has been clearly been amazing and the leader for satisfaction results for me since they get on the phone with you and solve the problem. Ive went for over three years with no issues with Hilton. Now had to deal with two Hilton brand issues this year . Yes one Bed bug event at the Columbia, SC Embassy Suites http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...fers/index.htm which was a ....... to deal with at home but plan on mailing some back with my bloody shirts/sheets and now I missed the reservation at the Miami Airport http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...PES/index.html
My experiences at HHonors has been less rewarding and appreciative. Not to mention the devaluation of the points. My take on the help HHonors Diamond desk has been, so what you Diamond traveler, you deal with it yourself and we don't care since I know you cant understand my English since we gladly outsourced everything and we now sound like robots when you call..
My take is loyalty is for fools lately and perhaps ill just pay for that internet and silly buffet breakfast and save some good dough.
Joe
#517
Hi Anthony, Erin,
I was wondering if Hilton is or would consider hosting a 'DO' in the coming year?
This would be a great way to invite different customer sectors to one place and discuss any issues or upcoming changes to the Hilton Honors program...
Obviously, being based in the UK, I personally would suggest and welcome a London event for the Europeans in the program and maybe suggest a Chicago? location for a US event...
It seems other programs have done this in the past (Hyatt, SPG) at various worldwide locations with invited guests from various demographics to share and get feedback that benefit both sides.
Food for thought? @:-)
I was wondering if Hilton is or would consider hosting a 'DO' in the coming year?
This would be a great way to invite different customer sectors to one place and discuss any issues or upcoming changes to the Hilton Honors program...
Obviously, being based in the UK, I personally would suggest and welcome a London event for the Europeans in the program and maybe suggest a Chicago? location for a US event...
It seems other programs have done this in the past (Hyatt, SPG) at various worldwide locations with invited guests from various demographics to share and get feedback that benefit both sides.
Food for thought? @:-)
#518
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: norwich, uk
Programs: hhonors diamond
Posts: 5,397
Hi Anthony, Erin,
I was wondering if Hilton is or would consider hosting a 'DO' in the coming year?
This would be a great way to invite different customer sectors to one place and discuss any issues or upcoming changes to the Hilton Honors program...
Obviously, being based in the UK, I personally would suggest and welcome a London event for the Europeans in the program and maybe suggest a Chicago? location for a US event...
It seems other programs have done this in the past (Hyatt, SPG) at various worldwide locations with invited guests from various demographics to share and get feedback that benefit both sides.
Food for thought? @:-)
I was wondering if Hilton is or would consider hosting a 'DO' in the coming year?
This would be a great way to invite different customer sectors to one place and discuss any issues or upcoming changes to the Hilton Honors program...
Obviously, being based in the UK, I personally would suggest and welcome a London event for the Europeans in the program and maybe suggest a Chicago? location for a US event...
It seems other programs have done this in the past (Hyatt, SPG) at various worldwide locations with invited guests from various demographics to share and get feedback that benefit both sides.
Food for thought? @:-)
^^^
#519
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Durham, NC USA
Programs: AA EXP and 1MM, UA 1K, HH Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 424
sanguru1969 - sorry to hear of your troubles. I have been vocal about my dissatisfaction of the HH Brand and value of being a Diamond. Over my 18 years as a Diamond I have seen a steady erosion of the benefits and service provided.
That said, I do need to give a shout out to the Diamond Desk for helping me resolve an issue that was completely my fault. Since the hotel involved was in Munich and I was in US I asked them to handle the contact asking for help. They made the contact and the hotel agreed to help me out and saving me about $600. I am grateful to both he Diamond Desk and the Hilton Munich park.
That said, I do need to give a shout out to the Diamond Desk for helping me resolve an issue that was completely my fault. Since the hotel involved was in Munich and I was in US I asked them to handle the contact asking for help. They made the contact and the hotel agreed to help me out and saving me about $600. I am grateful to both he Diamond Desk and the Hilton Munich park.
#520
FlyerTalk Evangelist & Ambassador: China
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: DL DM/MM, UA 1K, AA Exp, HH Dia, WOH Glob, IHG Plat, Marriott Gold, NA EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 17,423
Once again as a Hilton Diamond member ive been disappointed by the pure lack of assistance by Hilton HHonors and the HHonors Diamond desk. (My guess its the same reps but different phone numbers now since the responses are no different). It used be before that "hedge fund" bought/invested in Hilton that if you had a problem they would gladly get on the phone with the hotel to resolve. Matter of fact they generally would say, we are sorry for the hotels response we can do this for you. Now the response is "we cant do anything but we can give you the hotel phone number" . Dah, I have the number and the hotel is sticking it to me for a flight issue I had and notified them asap to make a change. I would not be calling you if the hotel went out of there way to attempt to make it right.
Ive had three issues with Hilton this year (which is a record) but Ill list the two that made me upset and the results are now actually inferior to Marriott (That's really sad as a Platnium but expectation have been low for a decade with Marriott) and Hyatt which has been clearly been amazing and the leader for satisfaction results for me since they get on the phone with you and solve the problem. Ive went for over three years with no issues with Hilton. Now had to deal with two Hilton brand issues this year . Yes one Bed bug event at the Columbia, SC Embassy Suites http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...fers/index.htm which was a ....... to deal with at home but plan on mailing some back with my bloody shirts/sheets and now I missed the reservation at the Miami Airport http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...PES/index.html
My experiences at HHonors has been less rewarding and appreciative. Not to mention the devaluation of the points. My take on the help HHonors Diamond desk has been, so what you Diamond traveler, you deal with it yourself and we don't care since I know you cant understand my English since we gladly outsourced everything and we now sound like robots when you call..
My take is loyalty is for fools lately and perhaps ill just pay for that internet and silly buffet breakfast and save some good dough.
Joe
Ive had three issues with Hilton this year (which is a record) but Ill list the two that made me upset and the results are now actually inferior to Marriott (That's really sad as a Platnium but expectation have been low for a decade with Marriott) and Hyatt which has been clearly been amazing and the leader for satisfaction results for me since they get on the phone with you and solve the problem. Ive went for over three years with no issues with Hilton. Now had to deal with two Hilton brand issues this year . Yes one Bed bug event at the Columbia, SC Embassy Suites http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...fers/index.htm which was a ....... to deal with at home but plan on mailing some back with my bloody shirts/sheets and now I missed the reservation at the Miami Airport http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...PES/index.html
My experiences at HHonors has been less rewarding and appreciative. Not to mention the devaluation of the points. My take on the help HHonors Diamond desk has been, so what you Diamond traveler, you deal with it yourself and we don't care since I know you cant understand my English since we gladly outsourced everything and we now sound like robots when you call..
My take is loyalty is for fools lately and perhaps ill just pay for that internet and silly buffet breakfast and save some good dough.
Joe
#521
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,872
I have seen the DD lose power over the years (not sure of this was a HH policy change or just lazy agents getting worse). It used to be that DD agents could fix things on the phone, now I treat them like my company's IT department, avoid calling at all costs as it brings more headache.
#522
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
Programs: UA Global Services, HH Diamond
Posts: 5,178
But like most HHonors properties, they only offer a basic breakfast for their guests at their coffee shop, Perq. The buffet at SLS is a bit more upscale than your typical buffet, so as much as I'd want to be comp'd to it as an HHonors Diamond, it's consistent with overall HHonors breakfast benefits to simply provide a continental option.
#523
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, HH Diamond
Posts: 879
I stayed at the SLS and they did provide 2 bottles of water, which were delivered to the room shortly after check-in.
But like most HHonors properties, they only offer a basic breakfast for their guests at their coffee shop, Perq. The buffet at SLS is a bit more upscale than your typical buffet, so as much as I'd want to be comp'd to it as an HHonors Diamond, it's consistent with overall HHonors breakfast benefits to simply provide a continental option.
But like most HHonors properties, they only offer a basic breakfast for their guests at their coffee shop, Perq. The buffet at SLS is a bit more upscale than your typical buffet, so as much as I'd want to be comp'd to it as an HHonors Diamond, it's consistent with overall HHonors breakfast benefits to simply provide a continental option.
We'll still book our February trip with another property. ^
#524
Company Representative - Honors by Hilton
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Hilton Honors
Posts: 1,516
Hi Anthony, Erin,
I was wondering if Hilton is or would consider hosting a 'DO' in the coming year?
This would be a great way to invite different customer sectors to one place and discuss any issues or upcoming changes to the Hilton Honors program...
Obviously, being based in the UK, I personally would suggest and welcome a London event for the Europeans in the program and maybe suggest a Chicago? location for a US event...
It seems other programs have done this in the past (Hyatt, SPG) at various worldwide locations with invited guests from various demographics to share and get feedback that benefit both sides.
Food for thought? @:-)
I was wondering if Hilton is or would consider hosting a 'DO' in the coming year?
This would be a great way to invite different customer sectors to one place and discuss any issues or upcoming changes to the Hilton Honors program...
Obviously, being based in the UK, I personally would suggest and welcome a London event for the Europeans in the program and maybe suggest a Chicago? location for a US event...
It seems other programs have done this in the past (Hyatt, SPG) at various worldwide locations with invited guests from various demographics to share and get feedback that benefit both sides.
Food for thought? @:-)
This is a fantastic idea. I am going to check on the opportunities we offer and will let you know what I find. ^
+1
Cheers,
Erin
#525
Company Representative - Honors by Hilton
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Hilton Honors
Posts: 1,516
Once again as a Hilton Diamond member ive been disappointed by the pure lack of assistance by Hilton HHonors and the HHonors Diamond desk. (My guess its the same reps but different phone numbers now since the responses are no different). It used be before that "hedge fund" bought/invested in Hilton that if you had a problem they would gladly get on the phone with the hotel to resolve. Matter of fact they generally would say, we are sorry for the hotels response we can do this for you. Now the response is "we cant do anything but we can give you the hotel phone number" . Dah, I have the number and the hotel is sticking it to me for a flight issue I had and notified them asap to make a change. I would not be calling you if the hotel went out of there way to attempt to make it right.
Ive had three issues with Hilton this year (which is a record) but Ill list the two that made me upset and the results are now actually inferior to Marriott (That's really sad as a Platnium but expectation have been low for a decade with Marriott) and Hyatt which has been clearly been amazing and the leader for satisfaction results for me since they get on the phone with you and solve the problem. Ive went for over three years with no issues with Hilton. Now had to deal with two Hilton brand issues this year . Yes one Bed bug event at the Columbia, SC Embassy Suites http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...fers/index.htm which was a ....... to deal with at home but plan on mailing some back with my bloody shirts/sheets and now I missed the reservation at the Miami Airport http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...PES/index.html
My experiences at HHonors has been less rewarding and appreciative. Not to mention the devaluation of the points. My take on the help HHonors Diamond desk has been, so what you Diamond traveler, you deal with it yourself and we don't care since I know you cant understand my English since we gladly outsourced everything and we now sound like robots when you call..
My take is loyalty is for fools lately and perhaps ill just pay for that internet and silly buffet breakfast and save some good dough.
Joe
Ive had three issues with Hilton this year (which is a record) but Ill list the two that made me upset and the results are now actually inferior to Marriott (That's really sad as a Platnium but expectation have been low for a decade with Marriott) and Hyatt which has been clearly been amazing and the leader for satisfaction results for me since they get on the phone with you and solve the problem. Ive went for over three years with no issues with Hilton. Now had to deal with two Hilton brand issues this year . Yes one Bed bug event at the Columbia, SC Embassy Suites http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...fers/index.htm which was a ....... to deal with at home but plan on mailing some back with my bloody shirts/sheets and now I missed the reservation at the Miami Airport http://embassysuites3.hilton.com/en/...PES/index.html
My experiences at HHonors has been less rewarding and appreciative. Not to mention the devaluation of the points. My take on the help HHonors Diamond desk has been, so what you Diamond traveler, you deal with it yourself and we don't care since I know you cant understand my English since we gladly outsourced everything and we now sound like robots when you call..
My take is loyalty is for fools lately and perhaps ill just pay for that internet and silly buffet breakfast and save some good dough.
Joe
I am going to be discussing this feedback during my regularly scheduled call next week. I want to thank you for sharing these experiences, and I understand your frustrations.
Please feel free to PM me with more information about specific Diamond Desk cases, and I will try to assist!
sanguru1969 - sorry to hear of your troubles. I have been vocal about my dissatisfaction of the HH Brand and value of being a Diamond. Over my 18 years as a Diamond I have seen a steady erosion of the benefits and service provided.
That said, I do need to give a shout out to the Diamond Desk for helping me resolve an issue that was completely my fault. Since the hotel involved was in Munich and I was in US I asked them to handle the contact asking for help. They made the contact and the hotel agreed to help me out and saving me about $600. I am grateful to both he Diamond Desk and the Hilton Munich park.
That said, I do need to give a shout out to the Diamond Desk for helping me resolve an issue that was completely my fault. Since the hotel involved was in Munich and I was in US I asked them to handle the contact asking for help. They made the contact and the hotel agreed to help me out and saving me about $600. I am grateful to both he Diamond Desk and the Hilton Munich park.
I am going to share your observations as a long-time Diamond member with my team next week. We want to know these specifics and your suggestions are helping to improve the program.
I'm happy to hear you had a positive experience with the Diamond Desk recently - thank you for sharing.
I have seen the DD lose power over the years (not sure of this was a HH policy change or just lazy agents getting worse). It used to be that DD agents could fix things on the phone, now I treat them like my company's IT department, avoid calling at all costs as it brings more headache.
+1. It's gotten to the point where I will avoid calling to get smaller amounts of missing points credited properly; heresy, I know. The DD seems to increasingly take a "it's the guest's fault" attitude and begrudgingly "open up a case"...which, as many of us know, will usually send the issue to the graveyard. Nice way to treat your "valuable" guests.
This is definitely going to be shared next week. I will post any updates that come my way within this thread as soon as they are available!
Thanks,
Erin