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Old Sep 26, 2014, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by SCEflyer
What makes you privy to such intelligence? And if it is the case, and they are from the US Secret Service, what is your point?
He is 100% correct
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
FYI, I work the UNGA detail and as a supervisor with NYPD I can assure you its not the NYPD's fault. We are at the mercy of these heads of states. We have zero say and little advanced notice as to their exact schedule and time of movements. We do however, need to put pedestrian freezes in effect so that when they are ready to move, we are ready. That takes time. I'd love to get into more detail but I can't and I also know that it is a huge inconvenience for the general public, but its not the NYPD's fault..its like saying a flight is delayed due to weather and blaming delta for not knowing exactly when the flight will depart
Having many family members and friends in law enforcement, I know exactly how this works. But my statement is still accurate (and your comments support it), that the NYPD has no idea how long one will be stuck.

You read into something that wasn't there.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler
Having many family members and friends in law enforcement, I know exactly how this works. But my statement is still accurate (and your comments support it), that the NYPD has no idea how long one will be stuck.

You read into something that wasn't there.
I doubt you know exactlyhow the NYPD works it. Also, You make it sound like its the NYPD's fault for not having any idea. While I realize we are on the front lines and most visible to the general public, we fully come to expect the public to not understand the way these big events work and will just accept the blame.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
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and the NYPD not having any idea as to how long one will be stuck.




FYI, I work the UNGA detail and as a supervisor with NYPD I can assure you its not the NYPD's fault. We are at the mercy of these heads of states. We have zero say and little advanced notice as to their exact schedule and time of movements. We do however, need to put pedestrian freezes in effect so that when they are ready to move, we are ready. That takes time. I'd love to get into more detail but I can't and I also know that it is a huge inconvenience for the general public, but its not the NYPD's fault..its like saying a flight is delayed due to weather and blaming delta for not knowing exactly when the flight will depart
Good info and thank you for clarifying/backing up my statements on the secret service. . It seems like to some providing accurate info is damaging .
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 9:31 am
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I can tell you for a fact they were being escorted by US Secret Service. 100%




What makes you privy to such intelligence? And if it is the case, and they are from the US Secret Service, what is your point?
Because I was talking to the secret service agents, they identified themselves as such, and had the lapel pin.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
Also, You make it sound like its the NYPD's fault for not having any idea.
I didn't read that into his original post. It's as if he said "stuck on the plane for 30 minutes and the captain had no idea when we'd get a gate". No implicit blame of the captain.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by mbwmbw
Because I was talking to the secret service agents, they identified themselves as such, and had the lapel pin.
Reads more like you ran into EOD3 team assigned to arrivals and departures as no Protective Division agent was assigned to Ukraine's PM

Plus, you really shouldn't be bothering the help.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by mbwmbw
Good info and thank you for clarifying/backing up my statements on the secret service. . It seems like to some providing accurate info is damaging .
we arent always at liberty to discuss or talk about certain information and details related to the security of dignitaries, the POTUS and such.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by mbwmbw


Because I was talking to the secret service agents, they identified themselves as such, and had the lapel pin.




Reads more like you ran into EOD3 team assigned to arrivals and departures as no Protective Division agent was assigned to Ukraine's PM

Plus, you really shouldn't be bothering the help.
Again, it was the secret service. They were assigned to this individual person. They specifically escorted the PM around and left with him.

I went to the wingtips lounge after and there were secret service escorting another woman. These were protective details assigned by the US Secret Service for particular foreign dignitaries.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 12:32 pm
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How did he like Gordon's vodka ?
It's Finlandia now. I just wish they kept Skyy
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by TechMarauder
It's Finlandia now. I just wish they kept Skyy
That's great news, thanks! They never have Finlandia at Dorsia.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
FYI, I work the UNGA detail and as a supervisor with NYPD I can assure you its not the NYPD's fault. We are at the mercy of these heads of states. We have zero say and little advanced notice as to their exact schedule and time of movements. We do however, need to put pedestrian freezes in effect so that when they are ready to move, we are ready. That takes time. I'd love to get into more detail but I can't and I also know that it is a huge inconvenience for the general public, but its not the NYPD's fault..its like saying a flight is delayed due to weather and blaming delta for not knowing exactly when the flight will depart
The time I remember being stuck in that nonsense, I was on my way to a job interview. There were like 3 cars of international politicians, followed by 80 cars of news media. The cop wouldn't let pedestrians cross the street in between news media cars, a block away from any politicians.

We walked about 100' down the sidewalk and jaywalked across.

ISTR that when NYPD bottled up Union Square Park some years back, it ended up paying out large amounts to victims who sued.

If the guy telling me I can't cross an empty crosswalk with a walk light is NYPD, then I blame NYPD. You might want to suggest to your superiors that this will not look good on Youtube in the future, so they ought to find away to avoid False Imprisonment of innocent pedestrians.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Ysitincoach

...Plus, you really shouldn't be bothering the help.
Why is "the help" engaging with random members of the public when they have a protectee in the first place?
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler
It is a big deal to New Yorkers, but not in the ways you might think. The UN GA throws up so many barriers that it can impede pedestrian access. On Wednesday I find myself suddenly trapped for about 30 minutes walking home from work. Nothing like not being able to go in any direction, and the NYPD not having any idea as to how long one will be stuck.
I can understand the frustration. It seemed like there were lots of roadblocks and detours for both vehicle and pedestrian traffic.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by koreanair720
Saw former Italian Mario Monti in that very lounge not too long ago. Prime Ministers of declining European countries -- they're just like us...
If he is formerly Italian, what nationality is he now?
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