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Old Sep 2, 2017, 7:31 pm
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In 2017, at the first renewal of the 2016 Chase Sapphire Reserve card,* no retention offers have been forthcoming. It appears that Chase is not offering retention bonuses on this card at this time, and will cancel the card at the cardholders request without further ado.

*A retention offer has been reported (though it's minimal): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28917524-post376.html

Posts 333 and 327 discuss a fee credit issued by Chase when cancelling the card. These have been called both "Annual Fee Refund" and "Membership Fee Credit."

This thread discusses the timing of both cancelling and product changing (downgrading to Sapphire Preferred) in order to 1) Keep from paying the $450 annual fee, and 2) possibly get a 2018 $300 travel credit before cancelling.

The rules changed for the travel credit on cards issued in May 2017, making the travel credit a calendar year issuance rather than a Dec statement to Dec Statement issuance.

The nuances discussed within this thread include changing your billing date, fees posting on the 1st of the month, and the 30 day window to cancel/60 day window to product change.


09/03/17 - 72k spend, no offer.
09/03/17 - 30k spend, no offer.
09/04/17 - 25k spend, no offer.
09/05/17 - 10k spend, no offer.
09/06/17 - 24k spend, no offer.
09/06/17 - Maybe 4-5K spend. No offer, closed.
09/06/17 - Spend unspecified, no offer.
09/07/17 - 10k spend, no offer.
09/12/17 - 15k annual spend, no offer, downgraded to Chase Freedom to preserve cl
09/18/17 - No offer.
09/22/17 - 25k spend, no offer.
09/29/17 - 17k spend, no offer.
10/02/17 - 64k spend, no offer.
10/10/17 - 16.5k, 2,500 point offer, declined.
10/13/17 - 165k, no offer.
10/13/17- No offer. ~$25k
10/21/17 - No offer, maybe $10k spend, transferred CL, cancelled.
03/02/18 - No offer, ~$13.5k spend
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by cheaptom
When the AF is due, and assuming I want to keep the card another year, is there a new annual $300 travel credit too?
Yes. If you applied for your CSR prior to 21 May 2017, your new travel credit will be available after your December statement posts.
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 7:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Diplomatico
Posted today on the Chase Sapphire Reserve Megathread at r/churning:

"Spoke to CSR who said that they are giving only 30 days to credit back the AF on the CSR if you cancel the card, and 60 days to credit it back if you downgrade. The rep said they are not pro-rating the annual fee back if it is greater than 60 days from when you decide to downgrade."
I'd trust Chase's actions over a frontline CSR, and it's pretty much SOP for Chase to refund prorated annual AFs when downgrading a card. Of course they could change their policy for the CSR, but will they? I guess we'll see.
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 7:55 pm
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I'm pretty sure they will find this without me having to call.

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Old Sep 7, 2017, 8:33 am
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Originally Posted by Diplomatico
Posted today on the Chase Sapphire Reserve Megathread at r/churning:

"Spoke to CSR who said that they are giving only 30 days to credit back the AF on the CSR if you cancel the card, and 60 days to credit it back if you downgrade. The rep said they are not pro-rating the annual fee back if it is greater than 60 days from when you decide to downgrade."

If accurate, this appears to be a change in policy to partially combat the strategy outlined in your blog post. (Affects primarily the cardmembers with a 1 September anniversary date.)
If I had a dollar for every time I've read "I spoke to a CSR who said...", and it turned out to be completely false, I'd have an awful lot of dollars. I'd be more concerned if that came via a Chase Secure Message. They tend to be far more precise.
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Old Sep 7, 2017, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by highops
I'm pretty sure they will find this without me having to call.

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I've had this happen before. I think with an Ink+ downgrade. Chase caught it fairly quickly.
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Old Sep 7, 2017, 7:24 pm
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Product change to Chase Freedom. No retention offer.
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Old Sep 7, 2017, 8:07 pm
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about 10k spend .. no offer .. closed
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Old Sep 8, 2017, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by Diplomatico
Product change to Chase Freedom. No retention offer.
Did your AF post on 9/1?
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 4:24 am
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I'm curious what would be a worthy retention offer for keeping CSR another year? Are folks thinking statement credit or points or a spend challenge?

I'll be keeping CSR for another year. Specifically, living in Europe and traveling to Asia a lot, the CSR's Priority Pass benefit is worth a lot to me. Lots more options from which to choose. Although, the Turkish Airline lounge at IAD is one of my favorite US domestic PP lounge out there.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 4:47 am
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Originally Posted by osotoc
... Priority Pass benefit is worth a lot to me. Lots more options from which to choose. Although, the Turkish Airline lounge at IAD is one of my favorite US domestic PP lounge out there.
This is a reason to have a Priority Pass membership, but not to have Sapphire Reserve. Priority Pass is a me too benefit, also available from American Express, Citi, and other issuers.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by mia
This is a reason to have a Priority Pass membership, but not to have Sapphire Reserve. Priority Pass is a me too benefit, also available from American Express, Citi, and other issuers.
Agreed completely. This card certainly got a ton of positive press at launch, I think primarily due to the generous sign-up bonus.

My wife and I both have the card (for the sign-up bonus) and was thinking we'd keep at least one, but other than the 3X for dining/travel, which is great, I'm actually struggling to identify any other unique benefit of value with this card.

I find it humorous that so many in these forums declared this card superior to the Citi Prestige (after the changes) and yet for us the Prestige is the one card that is probably the easiest for us to justify keeping. The 4th night free benefit is literally a money maker for us.

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Old Sep 9, 2017, 9:38 am
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Need some advice. Both my wife and I have our own (not au) CSRs. My wife's af will hit this month (mine's in Dec). I plan to cancel hers, but I'd like to retain the credit line. I have already transferred the URs to me, so her UR balance is 0.

What's the best downgrade option?
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by EkekoBWI
Need some advice. Both my wife and I have our own (not au) CSRs. My wife's af will hit this month (mine's in Dec). I plan to cancel hers, but I'd like to retain the credit line. I have already transferred the URs to me, so her UR balance is 0.

What's the best downgrade option?
If you don't want to pay an annual fee, either Freedom (5x rotating categories) or Freedom Unlimited (1.5% back on every purchase.)

You could go the CSP route but that's a $95 annual fee (not waived because you're downgrading). It would be less expensive just to make her an AU on your CSR ($75) than it would to downgrade to CSP.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by Diplomatico
If you don't want to pay an annual fee, either Freedom (5x rotating categories) or Freedom Unlimited (1.5% back on every purchase.)

You could go the CSP route but that's a $95 annual fee (not waived because you're downgrading). It would be less expensive just to make her an AU on your CSR ($75) than it would to downgrade to CSP.
Thanks. I thought about AU for my wife on my CSR, but PP, one of the larger benefits she'd receive, in SEA is little more than a joke during peak hours....and we usually travel on the same reservation. All that said, I'm still open to reasons why retaining it makes sense for me.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by EkekoBWI
Thanks. I thought about AU for my wife on my CSR, but PP, one of the larger benefits she'd receive, in SEA is little more than a joke during peak hours....and we usually travel on the same reservation. All that said, I'm still open to reasons why retaining it makes sense for me.
Based on this and your prior post, I would also recommend downgrading her card to one of the 2 Freedom products.
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