View Poll Results: Is an American Airlines/US Airways merger good for the traveling public?
Yes
84
28.19%
No
214
71.81%
Voters: 298. You may not vote on this poll
Last edit by: aztimm
Note:
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
#1591
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: Landry's President's Club, Marriott Silver, Awesomeness EXPLT
Posts: 20,420
You have been outspoken about your hatred of this merger and DP for a long time. I just hope and pray IF you are correct...and I think you and the DOJ will be made fools of...your trip back to the judge will not be as painful as I can PROMISE it WILL be. If you honestly think starting all over is going to be equal in cuts or better, I have a piece of land in the everglades that will perk. Your management that will guide you will throw a rescaled Chapter 11 with their attorneys and will DESTROY YOU!! It is the judges place to save a company and if the company feels they need more cuts, they WILL get it! You really think all those AB's will come your way without it being paid by labor? OR scaled back? And your few profits will mean nothing. Get ready to shrink or spend and go back to Chapter 11 within a year.
Meanwhile, US Airways will be fine. We have had greater people hating on US than you for YEARS. We are use to it and could care less. Good luck!
Meanwhile, US Airways will be fine. We have had greater people hating on US than you for YEARS. We are use to it and could care less. Good luck!
Cheers
Howie
#1592
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
When people say one domestic's F product isn't as good as another carrier's, what exactly are we comparing? Leaving the lie-flat JFK-SFO/LAX options out of the mix, I'm not even sure that I can differentiate. US doesn't serve meals on a lot of flights but that's about it. Beyond that, UA has some in-seat power, but the seat itself on the 737-900 I sat in a month ago was hard as a rock compared to the US F seat. Honestly, of US, UA and DL F products (never flew AA F), I'd have a really hard time differentiating on things that actually matter. And to me what matters is having more personal space on the plane.
It's not like the competition offers anything stellar, just that US's cheapness tends to show more in F than others.
#1593
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 76
Doj continues to try and stall.
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...rch-2014.html/
If find it comical that the doj thinks its ok to have a trial over 7 months out and over a year after the merger was announced. The madness should stop and let the merger happen.
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...rch-2014.html/
If find it comical that the doj thinks its ok to have a trial over 7 months out and over a year after the merger was announced. The madness should stop and let the merger happen.
#1594
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CLT
Programs: AA Platinum Pro, DL UA
Posts: 457
Future Alliance
In the event the merger does not happen, has there been any clues to which alliance US Airways will be a part of? Will they stay with STAR or head on over to OneWorld and codeshare with AA and others?
#1595
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 76
nobody knows yet.
The airline is proceeding under the impression they will merge (most agree that they will).
The airline is proceeding under the impression they will merge (most agree that they will).
#1596
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SFO / SJC / OAK
Programs: AS / CSR / AMEX
Posts: 266
Honestly, I want it to be expedited not because the DOJ will have less time to prepare, but so us, as consumers/customers, can make informed decisions on future travel plans.
The stalling isn't good for anyone imo, maybe only for people who realllyy dislike the merger
The stalling isn't good for anyone imo, maybe only for people who realllyy dislike the merger
#1597
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: PIT
Posts: 759
It's all up to the Judge on the 30th. IMO, if the Judge agrees with the DOJ date, it will provide a clue regarding who she will favor during the actual trial, which may cause the merger to unwind at AA's request. I'd bet she will set a middle ground date and ignore the absurdity of the DOJ's request for more time - they've already had a year to prepare!
#1598
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 76
It's all up to the Judge on the 30th. IMO, if the Judge agrees with the DOJ date, it will provide a clue regarding who she will favor during the actual trial, which may cause the merger to unwind at AA's request. I'd bet she will set a middle ground date and ignore the absurdity of the DOJ's request for more time - they've already had a year to prepare!
#1599
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Posts: 1,615
Why is the DOJ going to be made fools of? I'm getting tired of this kind of post that makes these comments but provide zero insight behind them. Also AA reported record July profits which would made it very hard for them to get back and get enforced concessions from the bK.
Cheers
Howie
Cheers
Howie
#1600
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The views I express here are not necessarily supported by any airline or codeshare partners, nor do I represent their views and/or opinions. They are my own OPINIONS dont like them dont read them.....
Posts: 1,615
Regardless, you have been against the merger and all I said will happen to the airline you fly and support. So enjoy your chuckle and remember it when AA goes further down with more cuts.
#1601
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Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 12,097
Doj continues to try and stall.
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...rch-2014.html/
If find it comical that the doj thinks its ok to have a trial over 7 months out and over a year after the merger was announced.
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...rch-2014.html/
If find it comical that the doj thinks its ok to have a trial over 7 months out and over a year after the merger was announced.
Let me paraphrase you: the merger madness should stop and Parker should let the new AA emerge standalone. I provide the same evidence and facts to back this statement: ________________________________
#1602
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
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Posts: 16,046
They don't deserve my support if the new airline has fares that are too expensive.
#1603
Yikes. If the news about AA fuel surcharges is true, I'm a lot less excited about my US miles becoming AA miles, and a lot more likely to burn them beforehand if the merger actually happens.
#1604
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Programs: US CP ; LH FTL ; *G
Posts: 1,630
This is patently incorrect. Granting a party's request for more time to prepare does not mean any further 'favors' during the trial. Gotta love FT legal analysts.
#1605
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: PHL, NYC
Programs: AA PLT, DL SLV, UA SLV, MR LTT, HH DIA
Posts: 10,073
I'm wondering if US and AA really do have a plan B to codeshare or enter into some kind of partnership if the merger doesn't happen.