TSA PRE-Check & US preferreds (Update: Now with PreCheck noted on boarding passes)
#61
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Posts: 102
FYI - the IAH location has weekend hours. You can use the 'behind security' tram to take you to terminal E and then exit the security area. You'll need to go down a floor to international arrivals and then go towards the right (if you have the street entrance behind you) where there is a small frosted glass door.
#62
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: American Airlines Executive Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 140
I've opted in for Pre-Check, but I do have a question for those in airports with Clear....
I am a Clear member and would rather use Clear at MCO since I face a consistent time frame for clearing security (no wondering, am I pre-check eligible for this flight, etc.). Honestly, I could care less about taking my laptop and liquids out and taking off my shoes. If I am selected for pre-check on a flight out of MCO do I have to use the pre-check line or can I go through Clear (taking out/off items as usual)?
I still want to be able to use pre-check at other airports since Clear is so limited currently.
I am a Clear member and would rather use Clear at MCO since I face a consistent time frame for clearing security (no wondering, am I pre-check eligible for this flight, etc.). Honestly, I could care less about taking my laptop and liquids out and taking off my shoes. If I am selected for pre-check on a flight out of MCO do I have to use the pre-check line or can I go through Clear (taking out/off items as usual)?
I still want to be able to use pre-check at other airports since Clear is so limited currently.
#63
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: AMEX Platinum, Global Entry, Priority Pass, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,594
I am a Clear member and would rather use Clear at MCO since I face a consistent time frame for clearing security (no wondering, am I pre-check eligible for this flight, etc.). Honestly, I could care less about taking my laptop and liquids out and taking off my shoes. If I am selected for pre-check on a flight out of MCO do I have to use the pre-check line or can I go through Clear (taking out/off items as usual)?
#64
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Upstate NY or FL or inbetween
Programs: US former CP Looking for a new airline to love me
Posts: 1,674
Timeline for US participation?
UA web-site shows dates and airports for expected UA pre-check participation; This month? We'll see...
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...aspx#prescreen
TSA web-site shows projected airports that will incorporate this program, but does not say which airlines; important to note no specifics of program expansion beyond AA, DL, AS; merely "Additional airlines"
http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/escreening.shtm
US info? Insert icon for crickets here.
West airside at MCO? Insert icon for crickets here also.
Used the program at MCO with DL; East airside security. This was a reasonable security experience, and the first time I've ever perceived any added security value from the BP and ID check, used for entry to the pre-check lane..... This may not continue for long but the pre-check line was sparsely used, MCO CLEAR program currently has no perceptible value on this side of MCO.
ETA; found this; http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2012/0208.shtm indicates some time this year for US induction into program. There are also strong indications that even now, any airside that scans the BP will give the pre-check OK, regardless of whether you're flying the airline designated as part of the program or not.
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...aspx#prescreen
TSA web-site shows projected airports that will incorporate this program, but does not say which airlines; important to note no specifics of program expansion beyond AA, DL, AS; merely "Additional airlines"
http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/escreening.shtm
US info? Insert icon for crickets here.
West airside at MCO? Insert icon for crickets here also.
Used the program at MCO with DL; East airside security. This was a reasonable security experience, and the first time I've ever perceived any added security value from the BP and ID check, used for entry to the pre-check lane..... This may not continue for long but the pre-check line was sparsely used, MCO CLEAR program currently has no perceptible value on this side of MCO.
ETA; found this; http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2012/0208.shtm indicates some time this year for US induction into program. There are also strong indications that even now, any airside that scans the BP will give the pre-check OK, regardless of whether you're flying the airline designated as part of the program or not.
Last edited by NY-FLA; Jun 10, 2012 at 7:58 am
#65
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Upstate NY or FL or inbetween
Programs: US former CP Looking for a new airline to love me
Posts: 1,674
Only if you enjoy disrobing, disassembling your luggage, and the more frequent scope and gropes. Precheck offers far more than CLEAR's simple line jump.
#66
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: American Airlines Executive Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 140
Pre-check is not a guarantee--you don't know until you get to security if you'll be allowed to use it on each trip. At MCO not being able to use it could mean a 1/2 hour wait in line. Personally, knowing I'll be through security in 5 minutes is much more valuable when I fly out of there every week than the 1 minute or less it takes me to get my laptop and liquids out and put my shoes on the belt. I pack the same way and wear clothes that only require me to take off my shoes so "disrobing and disassembling" luggage isn't an issue at all. I've never been selected for a pat down in 3 years--not saying it couldn't happen, but if it does, it does.
#67
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Upstate NY or FL or inbetween
Programs: US former CP Looking for a new airline to love me
Posts: 1,674
Pre-check is not a guarantee--you don't know until you get to security if you'll be allowed to use it on each trip. At MCO not being able to use it could mean a 1/2 hour wait in line. Personally, knowing I'll be through security in 5 minutes is much more valuable when I fly out of there every week than the 1 minute or less it takes me to get my laptop and liquids out and put my shoes on the belt. I pack the same way and wear clothes that only require me to take off my shoes so "disrobing and disassembling" luggage isn't an issue at all. I've never been selected for a pat down in 3 years--not saying it couldn't happen, but if it does, it does.
Line jump at $150 per year versus pre-2001 airport security for "free"? No contest.
#68
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: AMEX Platinum, Global Entry, Priority Pass, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,594
PreCheck is far from certain. Many people on eligible domestic itineraries receive CLR. If one can guarantee faster passage through the checkpoint by using CLEAR, and if one is running short on time, then skipping PreCheck is a wise decision.
#69
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: AA EXP2M, DL 1MM DM ext, UA PP <=> HH G/Marr PE/Hyatt G/IHG P FT RA ( Recovering Addict)
Posts: 4,596
From what I read about TSA PreCheck on AA, they actually generate some type of trusted traveler number (not the GE PassID), and populate that in the AA PassID field.
I belive it is both TSA and US driven - but I think the main part might be the primary airport and/or address. Most high tier members on DL/UA received invites. Not completely sure. I was CP for many years, and DCA is my primary airport + have a D.C. address.
I belive it is both TSA and US driven - but I think the main part might be the primary airport and/or address. Most high tier members on DL/UA received invites. Not completely sure. I was CP for many years, and DCA is my primary airport + have a D.C. address.
Then it is driven by the airline if you are an elite.
#70
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: AMEX Platinum, Global Entry, Priority Pass, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,594
I believe that GoinSki was saying that AA creates a TT number for its elite pax who are entered into PreCheck. If that is true, then one could enter that number into his or her US profile, and attempt to use PreCheck when flying US.
#71
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Upstate NY or FL or inbetween
Programs: US former CP Looking for a new airline to love me
Posts: 1,674
Medium term continuation of CLEAR is also far from certain. Guess each individual needs to make their own value decision, but I'm not sure the broader perspective of CLEAR's value bodes well for its survival.
#72
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: PHL
Programs: US CP/AA EXP, HHonors Diamond, Marriott PLT, National Exec Elite, Avis 1st
Posts: 490
I've been through PreCheck on AA 6-8 times. In all cases:
1) Old fashion metal detector (no backscatter)
2) No need to remove shoes or jacket
3) No need to take 3-1-1 bag out or laptop out
You do need to take metal (phones, etc) out and put them through the conveyor for x-ray.
All together - much faster.
1) Old fashion metal detector (no backscatter)
2) No need to remove shoes or jacket
3) No need to take 3-1-1 bag out or laptop out
You do need to take metal (phones, etc) out and put them through the conveyor for x-ray.
All together - much faster.
I concur on the list above - metal detector only, no need to remove anything, no need to take anything out of your bag. The only thing they asked was to remove any cell phones from you pocket to put them on the belt.
All in, it took about 30 seconds. It was fantastic!! Now that I've actually used it, I cannot wait until it rolls out in PHL.
#73
Moderator: American AAdvantage & Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: PHX
Programs: American ExPlat; Marriott/SPG Lifetime Plat; Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 8,116
#74
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philadelphia
Programs: US1, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold, Hertz President
Posts: 62
Hip Implant
Does anyone know what happens if you have hip implant. Do you then go back to standard pat down etc. when metal detector alerts?
#75
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: AA Platinum Pro, United Gold, Marriott Platinum Premier, Hyatt Globalist, National EE
Posts: 155
I was sent the invitation e-mail about the TSA Pre-Check and it told me to login to my profile and select "opt in" but next to the TSA Pre-Check icon on my profile it just says "learn more". Anyone else having this problem? I'd really like to take advantage of this as soon as possible.