New Routes from CO's and UA's hubs?
Jun 8, 2010, 4:46 pm
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I'd like something into Salisbury, MD.
ORD-SBY, IAD-SBY or EWR-SBY would all work. I'm not holding out hope for CLE-SBY for obvious reasons.
Plus the return of IAD-TUS or EWR-TUS would be nice too.
ORD-SBY, IAD-SBY or EWR-SBY would all work. I'm not holding out hope for CLE-SBY for obvious reasons.
Plus the return of IAD-TUS or EWR-TUS would be nice too.
Jun 8, 2010, 8:25 pm
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I agree with you, DXB-BKK on TG and DXB-SIN on SQ are about the only services from the Gulf region eastward (not counting backtracking to CAI or IST), and I share your pain of high fares, limited options, and the extra connection in DXB (when coming from DOH in my case). (CA also flies from DXB; I was about to book them for a trip to China in a couple of weeks, until I realized that any somewhat competitive economy-class fare earned only a fraction of miles on Mileage Plus.)
A tag onto United's flights from DXB/KWI/BAH or BKK/SIN to, say, India would be nice, but I am not sure if that would work -- would many U.S.-based travelers be willing to stop two or three times en route to India?
A tag onto United's flights from DXB/KWI/BAH or BKK/SIN to, say, India would be nice, but I am not sure if that would work -- would many U.S.-based travelers be willing to stop two or three times en route to India?
HKG-SIN never seemed full compared to the NRT alternative. I could see UA serving HKG-DEL while canceling HKG-SIN and increasing capacity on NRT-SIN. I don't think adding yet another flight from BKK or SIN would make much sense for exhausted passengers.
Another option I can see would be something like TPE-DEL if they brought back the direct out of SFO. Or maybe ICN-DEL, PVG-DEL or PEK-DEL?
Jun 8, 2010, 9:02 pm
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+1
I'd love to see ORD-TLV on a 744. Perhaps they could also do EWR-TLV on a 744...
In addition, I'd like to see:
DEN-RDU: UA had a nonstop 735 flight a few years ago. This was very convenient for me. A GA once told me that one of the phone book companies had multiple employees on this flight each day. They would send them from their office in DEN to their office in the Research Triangle..
ORD-PWM: It would be really nice if UA could upgauge this route to an E170, or even an A319! Every time I fly to PWM, the flights are packed, and F usually has three or four paid F fliers.
MCI-SFO: Currently UA runs this route with a CR7. I'd like to see it replaced with an A320.
Some day, perhaps...
I'd love to see ORD-TLV on a 744. Perhaps they could also do EWR-TLV on a 744...
In addition, I'd like to see:
DEN-RDU: UA had a nonstop 735 flight a few years ago. This was very convenient for me. A GA once told me that one of the phone book companies had multiple employees on this flight each day. They would send them from their office in DEN to their office in the Research Triangle..
ORD-PWM: It would be really nice if UA could upgauge this route to an E170, or even an A319! Every time I fly to PWM, the flights are packed, and F usually has three or four paid F fliers.
MCI-SFO: Currently UA runs this route with a CR7. I'd like to see it replaced with an A320.
Some day, perhaps...
Jun 8, 2010, 9:28 pm
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+1
I'd love to see ORD-TLV on a 744. Perhaps they could also do EWR-TLV on a 744...
In addition, I'd like to see:
DEN-RDU: UA had a nonstop 735 flight a few years ago. This was very convenient for me. A GA once told me that one of the phone book companies had multiple employees on this flight each day. They would send them from their office in DEN to their office in the Research Triangle..
ORD-PWM: It would be really nice if UA could upgauge this route to an E170, or even an A319! Every time I fly to PWM, the flights are packed, and F usually has three or four paid F fliers.
MCI-SFO: Currently UA runs this route with a CR7. I'd like to see it replaced with an A320.
Some day, perhaps...
I'd love to see ORD-TLV on a 744. Perhaps they could also do EWR-TLV on a 744...
In addition, I'd like to see:
DEN-RDU: UA had a nonstop 735 flight a few years ago. This was very convenient for me. A GA once told me that one of the phone book companies had multiple employees on this flight each day. They would send them from their office in DEN to their office in the Research Triangle..
ORD-PWM: It would be really nice if UA could upgauge this route to an E170, or even an A319! Every time I fly to PWM, the flights are packed, and F usually has three or four paid F fliers.
MCI-SFO: Currently UA runs this route with a CR7. I'd like to see it replaced with an A320.
Some day, perhaps...
ORD-TLV and EWR-TLV are probably good examples of the types of routes that could be opened up by the 787. ORD-TLV doesn't have the volume to justify a 772 or 744 and its too far for a 763 but the 787 could have both the range and the economics to make it work.
Jun 9, 2010, 6:46 am
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I'm sure that CO and UA are going to look pretty carefully at their proprietary data to figure out if ORD-TLV makes sense as a 744, 772, or 787. Besides, I vaguely recall hearing one time that there's so much demand for cargo on this route that these planes break even before a single passenger ticket is sold, in which case the higher cargo capacity of the 744 would make a lot of sense, whether the 744 runs ORD-TLV or is swapped into EWR-TLV, freeing up the 772 for ORD-TLV...
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Jun 9, 2010, 9:24 am
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The day that CO has sufficient equipment to do so, this will happen but unfortunately there isn't equipment available. I've been told that CO asked for a second daily slot on the EWR-BRU route but apparently they have a problem with providing equipment for the second rotation... The flight was supposed to be codeshared with SN but due lack of space on the flight it seemed that codesharing is postponed...
Jun 9, 2010, 9:50 am
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ORD-TLV and EWR-TLV are probably good examples of the types of routes that could be opened up by the 787. ORD-TLV doesn't have the volume to justify a 772 or 744 and its too far for a 763 but the 787 could have both the range and the economics to make it work.
I suspect that they will upgauge CO90 to a 744 (CO90 is the premier flight), ORD-TLV would be at least a 772. CO has great difficulty, due to their inventory management and fare practices, offering close-in (<2 weeks) front-cabin availablilty from the west coast, ORD-TLV would be able to pick up a lot of this traffic as well as the O/D from their most important hub.
Jun 9, 2010, 2:55 pm
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IAD-TLV will be done before ORD-TLV
El AL flyes from ORD and there is a very big Jewish population in the DC area. It can be done on the 777
El AL flyes from ORD and there is a very big Jewish population in the DC area. It can be done on the 777
Jun 11, 2010, 9:13 pm
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Hopefully UA/CO will start another TLV flight to go along with EWR. I agree IAD is more likely, but ORD has better connections to midwest and west coast markets that could feed into the flight. Several years CO discussed starting IAH-TLV, but personally I'd rather see a 3rd EWR-TLV.
Oct 1, 2010, 3:47 pm
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IAH-AKL coming?
Just to start some exciting rumors, has anyone else noticed on the "you'll like where we land" map currently on UA's homepage celebrating the merger there seems to be a Houston to Auckland route?
It's probably just put there and has no meaning...but what would FT be without these kinds of things causing rampant speculation?
It's probably just put there and has no meaning...but what would FT be without these kinds of things causing rampant speculation?
Oct 1, 2010, 3:48 pm
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Not speculation. CO announced this a while ago...
Oct 1, 2010, 4:09 pm
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787 dreamliner...
+1, this was announced, what, late spring or early summer sometime. It will be on the new 787 dreamliner from IAH to AKL , the first non stop from North America via an domestic airline. Would be great if they outfit this bird with F, C, E+ and E-!!!!
Oct 1, 2010, 6:00 pm
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Two routes that I think are plausable..
RDU-DEN (previously served by UA)
RDU-SFO (proposed during the UA/US engagement)
Honestly, with the CO execs in charge, I would suspect that any airport that had service to all the hubs before will have service to all the hubs now..
So I would gather that any airport that saw service to EWR/CLE/IAH.. will probably see service to EWR/CLE/IAH/IAD/DEN.. SFO is my only questionable one.. but I could see UAL doing it..
RDU-DEN (previously served by UA)
RDU-SFO (proposed during the UA/US engagement)
Honestly, with the CO execs in charge, I would suspect that any airport that had service to all the hubs before will have service to all the hubs now..
So I would gather that any airport that saw service to EWR/CLE/IAH.. will probably see service to EWR/CLE/IAH/IAD/DEN.. SFO is my only questionable one.. but I could see UAL doing it..
Oct 1, 2010, 6:17 pm
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The previously announced seat config for the 787s has neither F nor E+. Certainly that could change but the curreent expectation from what CO specified will not have those. The E- section will be 31-32" pitch as spec'd. Anything can change but that's the current spec.
Originally Posted by 1kwannabe
+1, this was announced, what, late spring or early summer sometime. It will be on the new 787 dreamliner from IAH to AKL , the first non stop from North America via an domestic airline. Would be great if they outfit this bird with F, C, E+ and E-!!!!
Oct 1, 2010, 6:31 pm
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IAH-SYD: I doubt they can get enough to fill the loads for this flight. I live in Australia and I can honestly tell you that no one here has any desire to go to Houston. Granted, Australians will make up a minority of passengers (they tend to fly QF), but that minority does help make things profitable. SFO and LAX are great points for the SYD flights. An interesting one would be ORD-SYD, but it's pushing it distance-wise. Could be done though.