New Routes from CO's and UA's hubs?
May 28, 2010, 11:50 pm
#77
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LAX - HKG
LAX - FRA
LAX - MIA
SNA - IAD
SFO - BOM
SFO - DEL
SFO - CDG
SNA - LAS
ORD - ITH
IAD - IST
RTW service on UA/CO metal
LAX - FRA
LAX - MIA
SNA - IAD
SFO - BOM
SFO - DEL
SFO - CDG
SNA - LAS
ORD - ITH
IAD - IST
RTW service on UA/CO metal
May 29, 2010, 11:50 am
#78
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I don't know other alliances I know the star alliance. We can see very clearly that the traffic between the middle east going east is almost nill. There are 0 UA/CO flights that way, none whatsoever.
I don't know, there are usually rumors that predate facts, thus I hope at least rumors are there.
Emirates and Qatar only give RDM credit and not all fare classes even give RDM's.
Have you tried this?
Let's just take a look at what many would say is one of the premier destinations in Asia Bangkok. BKK is serviced by UA from the states via NRT. Great. Now you want to go further West to the middle east?
OK there is exactly 1 nonstop flight that goes from BKK to DXB in the entire system of the Star Alliance. That flight is usually 3-4 times more expensive than some non star alliance option. Here is an example for a random date in July.
This is ONE WAY mind you:
Thai non stop flight $1275
Kingfisher, Sri Lankan, Emirates, Jet all are in the 300's.
There is absolutely no service to DOH, KWI, DMM, BAH.
You can get to RUH with 2 stops on Thai.
I mean come on I don't even want to continue my examples for it is too depressing and ticks me off that I have to fly with Gulf Air to pick up this huge gap in the system.
I don't know, there are usually rumors that predate facts, thus I hope at least rumors are there.
Emirates and Qatar only give RDM credit and not all fare classes even give RDM's.
Have you tried this?
Let's just take a look at what many would say is one of the premier destinations in Asia Bangkok. BKK is serviced by UA from the states via NRT. Great. Now you want to go further West to the middle east?
OK there is exactly 1 nonstop flight that goes from BKK to DXB in the entire system of the Star Alliance. That flight is usually 3-4 times more expensive than some non star alliance option. Here is an example for a random date in July.
This is ONE WAY mind you:
Thai non stop flight $1275
Kingfisher, Sri Lankan, Emirates, Jet all are in the 300's.
There is absolutely no service to DOH, KWI, DMM, BAH.
You can get to RUH with 2 stops on Thai.
I mean come on I don't even want to continue my examples for it is too depressing and ticks me off that I have to fly with Gulf Air to pick up this huge gap in the system.
A tag onto United's flights from DXB/KWI/BAH or BKK/SIN to, say, India would be nice, but I am not sure if that would work -- would many U.S.-based travelers be willing to stop two or three times en route to India?
May 29, 2010, 12:11 pm
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cle-rdd on a 777 please
one can dream
May 29, 2010, 12:40 pm
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IAH - SYD
I would like to see a 747 from IAH to SYD; even if for 5 days a week.
But only if it was a meaningful alternative to the LAX and SFO service.
My thought is have it leave 10 a.m.; giving plenty of time for the first flight connections from the mid-west and east coast that arrive between 8 a.m. and 9 a.m.
Accornding to Great Circle Mapper it would be 8,596 miles or about 16.5 hours.
So a 10 a.m. departure from IAH would be 11 p.m. in SYD, 16.5 hours later would be 4:30 p.m.; plenty of time for connections to other Oz cities.
Return flight leaving SYD at 8 a.m., which would be 9 p.m. in Houston. Arriving at noon in Houston. Much better connections to the midwest and east coast for getting home.
But only if it was a meaningful alternative to the LAX and SFO service.
My thought is have it leave 10 a.m.; giving plenty of time for the first flight connections from the mid-west and east coast that arrive between 8 a.m. and 9 a.m.
Accornding to Great Circle Mapper it would be 8,596 miles or about 16.5 hours.
So a 10 a.m. departure from IAH would be 11 p.m. in SYD, 16.5 hours later would be 4:30 p.m.; plenty of time for connections to other Oz cities.
Return flight leaving SYD at 8 a.m., which would be 9 p.m. in Houston. Arriving at noon in Houston. Much better connections to the midwest and east coast for getting home.
May 29, 2010, 1:45 pm
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EWR
-Could we possibly see EWR-BRU to a permanent 777?
-Mainline to ATL everyday?
-I would assume that EWR would get larger A/C? For example UA likes to put Airbus on short routes like ORD-CMH. Would the new UA put a Airbus on EWR-CMH or routes similar?
-Any 744's to EWR?
-Mainline to ATL everyday?
-I would assume that EWR would get larger A/C? For example UA likes to put Airbus on short routes like ORD-CMH. Would the new UA put a Airbus on EWR-CMH or routes similar?
-Any 744's to EWR?
May 29, 2010, 2:29 pm
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EWR-LHR-DEL-HKG-EWR
And bring back "Worldwide Services" on the sides of the planes.
IAD-TLV
PPT service on CO Micronesia
And bring back "Worldwide Services" on the sides of the planes.
IAD-TLV
PPT service on CO Micronesia
May 29, 2010, 3:18 pm
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I would like to see a 747 from IAH to SYD; even if for 5 days a week.
But only if it was a meaningful alternative to the LAX and SFO service.
My thought is have it leave 10 a.m.; giving plenty of time for the first flight connections from the mid-west and east coast that arrive between 8 a.m. and 9 a.m.
Accornding to Great Circle Mapper it would be 8,596 miles or about 16.5 hours.
So a 10 a.m. departure from IAH would be 11 p.m. in SYD, 16.5 hours later would be 4:30 p.m.; plenty of time for connections to other Oz cities.
Return flight leaving SYD at 8 a.m., which would be 9 p.m. in Houston. Arriving at noon in Houston. Much better connections to the midwest and east coast for getting home.
But only if it was a meaningful alternative to the LAX and SFO service.
My thought is have it leave 10 a.m.; giving plenty of time for the first flight connections from the mid-west and east coast that arrive between 8 a.m. and 9 a.m.
Accornding to Great Circle Mapper it would be 8,596 miles or about 16.5 hours.
So a 10 a.m. departure from IAH would be 11 p.m. in SYD, 16.5 hours later would be 4:30 p.m.; plenty of time for connections to other Oz cities.
Return flight leaving SYD at 8 a.m., which would be 9 p.m. in Houston. Arriving at noon in Houston. Much better connections to the midwest and east coast for getting home.
May 29, 2010, 7:26 pm
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Also see New Service to AKL over in the CO forum - it looks like AKL is more active than SYD as a new destination.
May 30, 2010, 12:39 am
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Please ORD-TLV on a 744!
Jun 3, 2010, 6:39 pm
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Jun 4, 2010, 2:06 am
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Jun 4, 2010, 2:22 am
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How much GUM-PPT traffic would you really expect ? It is too far for a 737 so they would need to be able to profitably fill a 767 or 787 on the route - that seems a bit unlikely to me .
or did you mean for Continental ( United ) Micronesia to operate HNL-PPT rather than GUM-PPT ?
or did you mean for Continental ( United ) Micronesia to operate HNL-PPT rather than GUM-PPT ?
Jun 5, 2010, 1:26 am
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