New Routes from CO's and UA's hubs?
May 4, 2010, 11:29 pm
#46
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routes I'd like to see ORD-BKK timed for same-day connections to HKT
Leveraging CO though...ORD-LIR timed for long weekends WSaSu would be fine. ORD-GUA and ORD-PTY to avoid Co's horribly timed connections in IAH for the evening central america flights...that or add a flight so you don't have to spend 4 hours in IAH.
LAX or SFO to Fiji would be good or moving the GUM-DPS to NRT would be even more awesome
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May 4, 2010, 11:37 pm
#47
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I've long been surprised that someone hasn't been able to make a go of ORD-TLV - there seems to be a big opportunity here. There are indeed a very large number of Jews in the Chicago area, and many of them have strong ties to Israel. I'd think this route would do very well. I believe the the El Al flight was done in the downturn following 9/11.
So LY will not fly to ORD in the near future, and that gives UA the oppertunity to fly ORD-TLV. But I believe they will first try to fly IAD-TLV, also because it may make US to stop flying to tlv (as there will be flights from both EWR&IAD).
May 4, 2010, 11:37 pm
#48
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The biggest gap in UA/CO even star alliance is between the middle east and Asia. You can get all the way to India even from the states going east, but no further. You can get to Bangkok going west but no further. When are they going to close that loophole. I have to fly Gulf Air to fill that gap in.
May 5, 2010, 12:13 am
#49
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The biggest gap in UA/CO even star alliance is between the middle east and Asia. You can get all the way to India even from the states going east, but no further. You can get to Bangkok going west but no further. When are they going to close that loophole. I have to fly Gulf Air to fill that gap in.
Star can't cover every single possible connection in the world in the most efficient manner possible.
May 5, 2010, 12:37 am
#50
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I'm just looking forward to seeing more mainline on key routes. CO doesn't have the 70-seaters that fill UAX's schedule, so expect a lot of 70-seat UAX to move onto "marginal" CO 737 routes, and the CO 737s to replace the busiest UAX routes. Of course, that's all up until the scope clause gets renegotiated.
[article with section on regional carrier realignment]
BTW, there's a perception among CO people that UA just has a bunch of widebodies that aren't being used much, and which will rescue them from the TATL 757s. No, actually, the "North America" config 767/777s are pretty much used for Hawaii, and most widebodies domestically are tagging on domestic legs to their international itinerary. So, no, you probably can't have 'em.
[article with section on regional carrier realignment]
BTW, there's a perception among CO people that UA just has a bunch of widebodies that aren't being used much, and which will rescue them from the TATL 757s. No, actually, the "North America" config 767/777s are pretty much used for Hawaii, and most widebodies domestically are tagging on domestic legs to their international itinerary. So, no, you probably can't have 'em.
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May 5, 2010, 3:06 am
#51
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UA had ORD-RNO many years ago.
May 5, 2010, 4:07 am
#52
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I bet CO's EWR-South America flights get transferred to IAD, except supplemental GRU/EZE service from EWR.
It's not just you. I looked at that and wondered how they could release such an abomination.
Is it just me, or is that interactive map just really crappy? You can't really see a "map" just find a country, and drill down from there.
Someone mentioned it elsewhere, but the fact that neither offers service to Santiago, Chile is I looked at possible routing to there for a work trip, and other than routing on Copa, you're left with OW alliance flights. So that's my vote - the rest of my needs are fairly well covered already, and additional options to Brazil get my ^
Someone mentioned it elsewhere, but the fact that neither offers service to Santiago, Chile is
I looked at possible routing to there for a work trip, and other than routing on Copa, you're left with OW alliance flights. So that's my vote - the rest of my needs are fairly well covered already, and additional options to Brazil get my ^
May 5, 2010, 6:58 am
#53
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LAX-HKG on 777
May 5, 2010, 7:37 am
#54
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I'm just looking forward to seeing more mainline on key routes. CO doesn't have the 70-seaters that fill UAX's schedule, so expect a lot of 70-seat UAX to move onto "marginal" CO 737 routes, and the CO 737s to replace the busiest UAX routes. Of course, that's all up until the scope clause gets renegotiated.
BTW, there's a perception among CO people that UA just has a bunch of widebodies that aren't being used much, and which will rescue them from the TATL 757s. No, actually, the "North America" config 767/777s are pretty much used for Hawaii, and most widebodies domestically are tagging on domestic legs to their international itinerary. So, no, you probably can't have 'em.
BTW, there's a perception among CO people that UA just has a bunch of widebodies that aren't being used much, and which will rescue them from the TATL 757s. No, actually, the "North America" config 767/777s are pretty much used for Hawaii, and most widebodies domestically are tagging on domestic legs to their international itinerary. So, no, you probably can't have 'em.
I'd like to see some/all of the following:
IAH-SCL/MAD/MUC/FCO/TLV
LAX-HKG
EWR-DME/IST/CAI
ORD-TLV/DUB/MAN (don't think DUB & MAN are served...go after some AA routes)
IAD-TLV
and more flights to South America and India.
May 5, 2010, 8:07 am
#55
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I agree and don't really mind that (though I may be in the minority). I've never flown CO TATL on a 757, but AA's 75Ls are nice - I prefer them to AA's 763.
+1 for LAX-HKG (though it didn't work for UA on a 744, might work on a 772 or 787)
+1 for IAD/ORD-TLV
+1 for XXX-IST/CAI
May 5, 2010, 8:20 am
#56
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Air India to fill gap between Middle east & Asia
The biggest gap in UA/CO even star alliance is between the middle east and Asia. You can get all the way to India even from the states going east, but no further. You can get to Bangkok going west but no further. When are they going to close that loophole. I have to fly Gulf Air to fill that gap in.
May 5, 2010, 8:34 am
#57
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Would be nice to get some mainline flights between any NYC airport and IAD, although on the other hand I should never have to connect through IAD to get to Europe again. Hurrah!
May 5, 2010, 8:37 am
#58
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Now that they're designating NRT as a hub, let's add these to the roster:
1. NRT-HKG - We often hear how packed ORD/SFO-HKG is. We're also seeing requests to bring back LAX-HKG, and for people from HNL to get to HKG w/out having to use ANA. I think this can simultaneously solve all those problems nicely.
2. NRT-MNL - This is a personal one of mine. How can an alliance with so many airlines from Asia miss this one? I think this route is underserved across the board.
1. NRT-HKG - We often hear how packed ORD/SFO-HKG is. We're also seeing requests to bring back LAX-HKG, and for people from HNL to get to HKG w/out having to use ANA. I think this can simultaneously solve all those problems nicely.
2. NRT-MNL - This is a personal one of mine. How can an alliance with so many airlines from Asia miss this one? I think this route is underserved across the board.
May 5, 2010, 8:48 am
#59
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In some countries, cities are missing altogether or are incorrectly listed under obscure administrative districts. Fo example, neither CO/UA serve London, according to the map. But they do have several flights to Hayes, Middlesex (the latter of which is an administrative area that hasn't existed since 1974).
May 5, 2010, 10:00 am
#60
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I just looked and it has been fixed, but it gave a good laugh for 6 months.