Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Debating the value of masks is not appropriate for the UA forum -- we will discuss the UA requirements, enforcement and/or compliance. The value of masks is not UA specific issue (and not airline industry-specific either) and is best discussed elsewhere in a more universal format
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.22 April UA to provide "Social distancing" by blocking middles from advance seat assignments -- note middles can be assigned for those traveling together or at the gate if needed ... example notice and COVID-19: What we're doing to keep customers and employees safe
20 May 2020 United Launches United CleanPlus: A New Standard of Cleanliness and Safety in Partnership with Clorox and Cleveland Clinic ... (post)
"allowing customers to take alternative flights when we expect a flight to operate over 70% capacity." is included in the above announvement
Also NSRA not allowed if above 70%
15 June 2020 United Airlines Strengthens Onboard Mask Policy to Further Protect Passengers and Employees Against COVID-19 Spread ... (post)
July 2020 -- appears UA has dropped blocking pre-assignment of middles, still notifying if 70% booked
20 July -- "Traveling is different now, but we're still committed to your safety What to expect when you travel next", e-mail
22 July -- United Extends Mask Requirements to Airports
17 August 2021 -- TSA to extend transportation mask mandate into January (18, 2022)
WineCountryUA
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.22 April UA to provide "Social distancing" by blocking middles from advance seat assignments -- note middles can be assigned for those traveling together or at the gate if needed ... example notice and COVID-19: What we're doing to keep customers and employees safe
20 May 2020 United Launches United CleanPlus: A New Standard of Cleanliness and Safety in Partnership with Clorox and Cleveland Clinic ... (post)
"allowing customers to take alternative flights when we expect a flight to operate over 70% capacity." is included in the above announvement
Also NSRA not allowed if above 70%
15 June 2020 United Airlines Strengthens Onboard Mask Policy to Further Protect Passengers and Employees Against COVID-19 Spread ... (post)
July 2020 -- appears UA has dropped blocking pre-assignment of middles, still notifying if 70% booked
20 July -- "Traveling is different now, but we're still committed to your safety What to expect when you travel next", e-mail
22 July -- United Extends Mask Requirements to Airports
17 August 2021 -- TSA to extend transportation mask mandate into January (18, 2022)
UA COVID19 precautions: **REQUIRING** mask usage per CDC/DoT
#856
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Honestly, I'm afraid to fly after my child turns 2 for the fear of being tossed off the plane like a sack of potatoes if he refuses to wear a mask the entire flight. I'm sure there is a huge difference between a 1 year and 364 day old and a 2 year old in their ability to tolerate a mask...
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On UA's site they say that you must keep your mask on between sips and bites ( totally ridiculous). I haven't flown UA since before covid. I know it depends on the crew, but how strictly has this been enforced on your recent flights? I was on AA in March and we could keep the mask off all the time while eating and drinking.
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Honestly, I'm afraid to fly after my child turns 2 for the fear of being tossed off the plane like a sack of potatoes if he refuses to wear a mask the entire flight. I'm sure there is a huge difference between a 1 year and 364 day old and a 2 year old in their ability to tolerate a mask...
As for the OP, I've flown throughout the pandemic and when eating, I take my mask off when I start eating and put it back on after I finish eating. I usually finish eating in less than 10min. I've never gotten a complaint. Overall, most FA's don't do much for enforcement, they make the requirement announcements and then perhaps go after the overt people trying to not wear their mask at all. Ofcourse, there are outliers, some don't care at all, some make multiple lengthy announcements and will go around reminding everyone who doesn't have their nose covered. I've noticed the same on other airlines including in europe.
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This has nothing to do with UA, it's a TSA directive, and all US carriers are required to comply. TSA SD-1544-21-02A
As with all airlines, enforcement levels depend on the particular crew.
As with all airlines, enforcement levels depend on the particular crew.
At least in premium cabins flying on AA, B6, and DL, I'd say it's relatively common for passengers to remove their masks, or drop them below the chin during food/beverage service consumption without re-masking between individual sips/bites. I've yet to see a crew on any of these airlines ask the passenger to replace their mask during food/beverage consumption. Things might be different in the back, I'm not really sure. YMMV.
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At least in premium cabins flying on AA, B6, and DL, I'd say it's relatively common for passengers to remove their masks, or drop them below the chin during food/beverage service consumption without re-masking between individual sips/bites. I've yet to see a crew on any of these airlines ask the passenger to replace their mask during food/beverage consumption.
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On a recent flight there was a guy (wearing sunglasses the whole flight) who needed to be told twice before we even left the gate to pull his mask up, and of course that was just the beginning of it - he also had a hard time complying with seatbelt requirements, including the polaris shoulder strap for takeoff/landing. Fortunately he slept the whole way or who knows what kind of other tricks he would have pulled out.
I feel bad for FAs who have to enforce policies on people who are intentionally being difficult.
I feel bad for FAs who have to enforce policies on people who are intentionally being difficult.
#862
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I've seen plenty of other 2yr olds able to keep their mask on for the whole flight (except eating). I recall a flight where we had to turn off the runway and head back to the gate because a child refused to wear his seat belt and the mother would use profanities talking to her child while referring to the FA who kept trying to get the mother to get the seat belt on the child. Eventually, after the pilot made a few announcements, the child complied and we went on our way. Ofcourse the mother said "I'm never flying this airline again".
As for the OP, I've flown throughout the pandemic and when eating, I take my mask off when I start eating and put it back on after I finish eating. I usually finish eating in less than 10min. I've never gotten a complaint. Overall, most FA's don't do much for enforcement, they make the requirement announcements and then perhaps go after the overt people trying to not wear their mask at all. Ofcourse, there are outliers, some don't care at all, some make multiple lengthy announcements and will go around reminding everyone who doesn't have their nose covered. I've noticed the same on other airlines including in europe.
As for the OP, I've flown throughout the pandemic and when eating, I take my mask off when I start eating and put it back on after I finish eating. I usually finish eating in less than 10min. I've never gotten a complaint. Overall, most FA's don't do much for enforcement, they make the requirement announcements and then perhaps go after the overt people trying to not wear their mask at all. Ofcourse, there are outliers, some don't care at all, some make multiple lengthy announcements and will go around reminding everyone who doesn't have their nose covered. I've noticed the same on other airlines including in europe.
Anyway for me it's a moot point, because at least until 9/13/2021, the rules are the rules.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jun 18, 2021 at 12:16 pm Reason: quote updated to reflect Moderator edit; discuss of the appropriateness of the requirements are for other forum
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As has been mentioned, the mask rules while inflight are requirements by governmental regulators and as such UA is required to enforce them. The appropriateness / validity of such requirements is not within UA's purview and neither are they in scope for this forum. Please let's restrict discussion to what UA and UA employees are doing / can control.
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Well, FWIW, UA's T-5 days before departure e-mail says its federal law:
So it must be true.
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On my flight today the flight attendants were persistently but discretely enforcing the mask mandate.
United and their staff may get some relief coming, with DOT now facing bipartisan calls to relax the mask mandate on airlines and other forms of transportation.
United and their staff may get some relief coming, with DOT now facing bipartisan calls to relax the mask mandate on airlines and other forms of transportation.
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I do feel the overall attitude is more relaxed now, which I support, but you never know when an FA is going to power trip over this, or indeed, something entirely different.
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Honestly, I'm afraid to fly after my child turns 2 for the fear of being tossed off the plane like a sack of potatoes if he refuses to wear a mask the entire flight. I'm sure there is a huge difference between a 1 year and 364 day old and a 2 year old in their ability to tolerate a mask...
All in all, 5 UA flights so far during the federal mask mandate. Mask for the toddler is on an off during the flight and we had a single FA make a comment, but she never came back check again.
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I've flown throughout the pandemic and when eating, I take my mask off when I start eating and put it back on after I finish eating. I usually finish eating in less than 10min. I've never gotten a complaint. Overall, most FA's don't do much for enforcement, they make the requirement announcements and then perhaps go after the overt people trying to not wear their mask at all. Ofcourse, there are outliers, some don't care at all, some make multiple lengthy announcements and will go around reminding everyone who doesn't have their nose covered.
I only recall seeing a FA remind someone individually to put their mask on twice, with one of those two people being an off-duty pilot.
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While the directive may not be airline specific, where it comes to the policing of the policy during food/beverage consumption, UA seems to be on a very different level from most of the others.
At least in premium cabins flying on AA, B6, and DL, I'd say it's relatively common for passengers to remove their masks, or drop them below the chin during food/beverage service consumption without re-masking between individual sips/bites. I've yet to see a crew on any of these airlines ask the passenger to replace their mask during food/beverage consumption. Things might be different in the back, I'm not really sure. YMMV.
At least in premium cabins flying on AA, B6, and DL, I'd say it's relatively common for passengers to remove their masks, or drop them below the chin during food/beverage service consumption without re-masking between individual sips/bites. I've yet to see a crew on any of these airlines ask the passenger to replace their mask during food/beverage consumption. Things might be different in the back, I'm not really sure. YMMV.