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JNelson113 Jun 3, 2020 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 32425840)
Yes it does. The decision HK makes in regards to when to start letting in foreigners again will be their decision and not the central government’s. When it comes to deciding when to fully open the border with the mainland, this will be more “collaborative”.

Fantastic. So if I'm understanding correctly, 9/18 is the first day to fly to HK and enter without quarantine. I'm so there. :-). Hoping it holds up.

m.y Jun 3, 2020 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by UA_Flyer (Post 32424861)
Hopefully, American will be able to travel all the countries listed in your prior post and China within the next month or two. I know China may be welcome Americans back so soon, but if American can enter HK, SIngapore, Japan or Korea and stay for an extended period of time (for example 14-days), hope China will allow us in.

It will depend on whether U.S contains the spread of COVID. China won't let American tourists in until number of new cases drops far below where they are today.
It's a different story if you are an exec of large companies that hire lots of Chinese employees. There has been one German charter flights carrying businessman without the 2 week quarantine.
https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSL8N2CU61T

kb1992 Jun 3, 2020 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 32425525)
I’ll bet you a meal at pisto that this doesn’t happen. China will remain closed to foreigners until after Oct holidays at the earliest. More likely until after next CNY. Even if they open up a travel corridor with Japan, Korea, etc. those of us with foreign passports from non corridor countries will still be barred from re-entry into China.

Totally agree.

The entire 1.4 billion Chinese population from the top to bottom are so paranoid by this virus. They are willing to sacrifice the economy.

So China will close the border to American visitors in the foreseeable future.

Besides, Chinese carriers are flying to US but China effectively bans US airlines flying to China. This is totally unfair.

Not surprisingly, US government plans to kick Chinese carriers out. This is the only way to counter a rogue government.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...482_story.html

spartacusmcfly Jun 3, 2020 4:12 pm

I don't think anyone wants visitors from the US, Russia, Brazil, etc right now, and that makes sense, at least until you can do a quick 15 min virus test in arrival. We're generating 20,000+ new cases per day in the US. That's a huge number relative to any country in the world.

The outcome to this spat will be flights allowed by existing Chinese carriers as well as UA/DL for cargo only. Movement of people will now have to take place via Seoul, Singapore, HK (maybe).

Remember, Apple needs to bring over 10 million phones in early Sept. Last time I checked that's not doable by row boat!

HNLbasedFlyer Jun 3, 2020 5:02 pm


Originally Posted by spartacusmcfly (Post 32427284)

Remember, Apple needs to bring over 10 million phones in early Sept. Last time I checked that's not doable by row boat!

Maybe not a row boat - but certainly obtainable via cargo ships - China to US approximately 2 weeks. Apple probably planning a worse case contingency plan.

UA_Flyer Jun 3, 2020 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by spartacusmcfly (Post 32427284)

The outcome to this spat will be flights allowed by existing Chinese carriers as well as UA/DL for cargo only. Movement of people will now have to take place via Seoul, Singapore, HK (maybe).

Remember, Apple needs to bring over 10 million phones in early Sept. Last time I checked that's not doable by row boat!

UA is already operating multiple cargo flights in and out China at the moment.

WineCountryUA Jun 3, 2020 5:37 pm

This discussion is getting far outside the scope of the UA forum, please join the other FT discussions on the reciprocal China-USA flights issues, such as
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chin...june-16-a.html
or discussion elsewhere on border / entry requirements in place by various governments. These issues are not UA specific and UA has no direct influence on resolving those issues. There is active interest in these topics, let's use the existing threads.

This is not the forum to discuss China-USA relations.

This threads is about where you would like / need to travel once the ability to do that on UA resumes. Thanks

WineCountryUA
UA coModerator

UA_Flyer Jun 3, 2020 7:26 pm

I started following this thread over a month ago with great anticipation of flights to ASPAC being resumed and I can start traveling for work.

I know many Flyertalkers are excited with flight resumption and certain airports allow transit passengers, but it still cannot change the fact the border restrictions are in place. Nothing has really changed in my case as an American, who is not welcomed anywhere. Please forgive me for not getting excited.

SPN Lifer Jun 3, 2020 7:32 pm

If the Philippines opens soon, SFO-HNL-GUM-MNL may then be flyable.

PeggyJM Jun 3, 2020 10:30 pm

I don't think that Singapore will be open to American tourists anytime soon. I'm a Singapore resident, but got caught out of the country when I flew to the US in late February to visit my 95 year old mother and the borders closed to all foreign passport holders except those who work in medical services or transportation. I'm hoping that I will be able to get back sometime this summer and will have to spend 2 weeks in a government quarantine facility.

SPN Lifer Jun 3, 2020 11:36 pm

Flight UA1 SFO-SIN is showing in the schedule in my Android United App for July.

UA_Flyer Jun 4, 2020 3:26 am


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer (Post 32428054)
Flight UA1 SFO-SIN is showing in the schedule in my Android United App for July.

It has been there for awhile. I have been booked onto that flight since April.

goodeats21 Jun 4, 2020 6:25 am


Originally Posted by UA_Flyer (Post 32427699)
I started following this thread over a month ago with great anticipation of flights to ASPAC being resumed and I can start traveling for work.

I know many Flyertalkers are excited with flight resumption and certain airports allow transit passengers, but it still cannot change the fact the border restrictions are in place. Nothing has really changed in my case as an American, who is not welcomed anywhere. Please forgive me for not getting excited.

This is my feeling as well. Until USA gets control over spread / infection rates, we are going to be blocked from entering most (all?) countries.
Frustrating.

uastarflyer Jun 4, 2020 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer (Post 32428054)
Flight UA1 SFO-SIN is showing in the schedule in my Android United App for July.


Originally Posted by UA_Flyer (Post 32428346)
It has been there for awhile. I have been booked onto that flight since April.

I am looking closer to Thanksgiving and Winter break and the 2x daily still shows.

And none of them show Polaris and PP seatmap!

dkc192 Jun 4, 2020 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by uastarflyer (Post 32429635)
I am looking closer to Thanksgiving and Winter break and the 2x daily still shows.

And none of them show Polaris and PP seatmap!

Right. Placeholder schedules are still in place past certain milestones: circa July 6 for domestic flights, late August/October for most international flights. Anything past late October (23rd or so?) is certainly a placeholder schedule.


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