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ryman554 May 4, 2020 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by tcdtcd (Post 32349150)
This is inaccurate. The 10 (so far) FDA emergency approved tests for covid antibodies are full blood draws. They have been found to be highly accurate in specificity and sensitivity. They are not quick read (yet). There are another 145 tests non FDA approved on the market of dubious accuracy some of which are pin prick.

And you can do the antibody test without the swab test first, but only reason to do so is if you have reason to believe you’ve had and recovered from covid or suspect you’ve had an asymptomatic case (currently estimated at 3%-25% of population depending on
location.)

I stand corrected on the first point. Thanks. I agree folks should just get both, and negative active + positive antibody should be a prerequisite for immigration. (necessary but not sufficient)

The data I've read on the ones that are FDA approved from some preprint folks seem to trach seem to indicate accuracy and specificity potentially in the ~80%+ range for the good ones. Perhaps 95% accurate and 100% specific for the golden one or two.. That's not good enough. I don't see data on the Roche test that just got approval. Why 95% accuracy (assuming it's 5% false positive) isn't good enough? Because at 5%-10% infection rate, which are the numbers I've seen bandied about for the asymptomatics everywhere except NYC, then fully 1/3 to 1/2 of the "positives" are really negative and you're seriously overcounting those that have the disease. You've gotta get it down to the ~1% false positive / 0% false negative level, and I don't see the data that tells me we're there yet.

I *really* want an antibody test, since I'm fairly likely to have had it. Wifey almost certianly did with the SOB and not-a-flu-achiness back in early March. It killed of two folks in our elementary school, so given kids are germ factories, there is a chance.

WineCountryUA May 4, 2020 10:28 pm

We are getting far off UA topics, discussion of COVID-19 tests and general COVID-19 discussions best belong in Coronavirus and travel
Let's continue here with UA related topics and have the general COVID-19 discussions in the above forum.

WineCountryUA
UA coModerator

mh3265a May 5, 2020 6:42 am


Originally Posted by UA_Flyer (Post 32347192)
Matthew's blog has a good summary of the latest flight schedule:

https://liveandletsfly.com/united-ju...onal-schedule/

In terms of wait time to rework on cancelled itineraries, I can only comment that there is no wait using GS line.

Thanks for posting this. This explains why my IAD-HND has moved to IAD-ORD-HND. Not a massive change but suspect there may be more cuts before the summer is done. Not sure we'll get this trip in with the way things are trending. Also, getting a bit nervous because with dwindling UA options it'll be hard to rebook me, using miles, on other carriers if the space isn't available.

myperks May 7, 2020 11:19 am

Has anyone been able to book EVA award tickets lately? UA appears to be blocking ticketing even though they see space.

UA_Flyer May 7, 2020 11:45 am


Originally Posted by myperks (Post 32356403)
Has anyone been able to book EVA award tickets lately? UA appears to be blocking ticketing even though they see space.

If you mean that you can see availabilites on the UA website, but unable to book when you select the flight, then I would just call UA directly to see if they can book for you.

myperks May 7, 2020 11:55 am


Originally Posted by UA_Flyer (Post 32356476)
If you mean that you can see availabilites on the UA website, but unable to book when you select the flight, then I would just call UA directly to see if they can book for you.

I can see availability on UA website and the phone rep and web help desk can see availability. When I go ticket (whether online or with a rep), it won’t ticket. When phone rep does it, it comes back waitlisted. I then went to Aeroplan to book the same seat and it went through online immediately. After booking with Aeroplan, the seat availability for that specific date and flight disappeared on United.

UA_Flyer May 7, 2020 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by myperks (Post 32356508)
I can see availability on UA website and the phone rep and web help desk can see availability. When I go ticket (whether online or with a rep), it won’t ticket. When phone rep does it, it comes back waitlisted. I then went to Aeroplan to book the same seat and it went through online immediately. After booking with Aeroplan, the seat availability for that specific date and flight disappeared on United.

I am glad that you managed to secured the ticket through Aeroplan. This is one issue UA has been inconsistent and has not found a way to resolve it.
I also had spent countless hours on this before with the agents. Sometimes I was successful and other times not. Once I asked GS agent to speak to SQ PPS agent, because of the same issue that the GS agent and I can see the SQ seats but it just won't ticket. In the end, with my PPS and GS status, I got them to speak to each other and had a great call, but they could never overcome the system.

Perhaps others in this forum with more experience can share their views as well.

Long Zhiren May 7, 2020 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 32348813)
The good news is Japan and S. Korea transfer. I wish that HK and SIN would allow transit pax.

HKG & SIN don't permit transit? I thought the new restriction/quarantine only applies if you actually leave airside.

Long Zhiren May 7, 2020 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by UA_Flyer (Post 32347192)
In terms of wait time to rework on cancelled itineraries, I can only comment that there is no wait using GS line.

As a platinum, the wait time was 15-20 min two days ago. Voice recording said 5-10 min. But my phone said it was 15-20 min.

myperks May 7, 2020 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by UA_Flyer (Post 32356561)
I am glad that you managed to secured the ticket through Aeroplan. This is one issue UA has been inconsistent and has not found a way to resolve it.
I also had spent countless hours on this before with the agents. Sometimes I was successful and other times not. Once I asked GS agent to speak to SQ PPS agent, because of the same issue that the GS agent and I can see the SQ seats but it just won't ticket. In the end, with my PPS and GS status, I got them to speak to each other and had a great call, but they could never overcome the system.

Perhaps others in this forum with more experience can share their views as well.

not like SQ premium where it doesn’t show up to begin with in all partners, this actually shows availability. And another difference, economy showing wide availability is not ticketing either.

anyways, glad I was able to ticket somewhere else.

B747SP May 7, 2020 3:30 pm

Just booked early July SFO-CTU. It is strange that the June SFO-CTU flights are mostly sold out with only Y and C/D tickets available. Is there really such demand, or is it UA holding the seats just in case these flights are not going to happen (easier to rebook Y and C/D on other airlines)?

rankourabu May 7, 2020 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by B747SP (Post 32357102)
Just booked early July SFO-CTU. It is strange that the June SFO-CTU flights are mostly sold out with only Y and C/D tickets available. Is there really such demand, or is it UA holding the seats just in case these flights are not going to happen (easier to rebook Y and C/D on other airlines)?

More likely because they know people on these flights *have to* fly. Why not only release high fare classes, and get big $ for the route, especially OPM

kb1992 May 7, 2020 5:34 pm


Originally Posted by B747SP (Post 32357102)
Just booked early July SFO-CTU. It is strange that the June SFO-CTU flights are mostly sold out with only Y and C/D tickets available. Is there really such demand, or is it UA holding the seats just in case these flights are not going to happen (easier to rebook Y and C/D on other airlines)?

UA is tricking people to buy china tickets. I understand that UA needs cash badly, but to fool people to buy tickets on flights with high likelihood to be canceled is not good.

I am pretty sure that almost all China flights won’t run in June and July. China has a policy of allowing each airline to run only one weekly flight to one Chinese city. With millions infections outside of China and no sign of being contained on global scale, China will close the border indefinitely.

moondog May 7, 2020 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 32357367)
UA is tricking people to buy china tickets. I understand that UA needs cash badly, but to fool people to buy tickets on flights with high likelihood to be canceled is not good.

I am pretty sure that almost all China flights won’t run in June and July. China has a policy of allowing each airline to run only one weekly flight to one Chinese city. With millions infections outside of China and no sign of being contained on global scale, China will close the border indefinitely.

UA doesn't know what policies will be in place in the future, but the current rules aren't going to last forever.

travelinmanS May 7, 2020 11:05 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32357662)
UA doesn't know what policies will be in place in the future, but the current rules aren't going to last forever.

They are going to last much longer than July though. UA is taking pax money for flights that have zero chance of happening (SFO-CTU in July....come on!). Since they are not giving refunds but only travel credits I guess it's a way for them to increase their cash flow on the back of unsuspecting customers. I think its bordering on criminal.


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