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Old Apr 18, 2020, 1:31 pm
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Updated posting July 2020 - Ice, tea and coffee returns and some small food enhancements.
Safety updates to inflight dining
Your safety and the safety of our employees is our highest priority. To try and further limit potential exposure to coronavirus (COVID-19) on board, we’re temporarily adjusting our inflight service as of March 29 and will be moving to primarily pre-packaged foods and sealed beverages. Preorder meals and food for purchase will not be available. We’re also unable to offer special meals except for Kosher meals on flights to and from Tel Aviv.

Beverage changes for all flights
We will be offering sealed beverages on all flights. If you’re on a flight under 1 hour, you’ll receive beverages on request. We’ll also offer coffee and tea on domestic flights departing before 9:45 a.m. and on all international and premium transcontinental flights. Non-alcoholic beverages are complimentary, and alcoholic beverages are complimentary in premium cabins. Wine and beer are also complimentary in United Economy® on long-haul international flights.

Food changes for domestic flights
We won't have snacks available in United Economy for flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes or in United First® for flights under 1 hour. As always, you're welcome to bring snacks on board. For flights between 1 hour and 2 hours and 20 minutes in United First, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks.

For flights 2 hours and 20 minutes or longer, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks in United Economy. In the premium cabin, you'll be offered a snack box.

Food changes for premium transcontinental flights
If you're flying in United Economy or Economy Plus®, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks. Customers in the premium cabin will receive their meal with their entrée choice covered and will be offered a packaged snack for pre-arrival.

Food changes for international flights
In United Economy®, you’ll receive an entrée, a snack and packaged dessert, as well as pre-packed mid-flight and pre-arrival items on select flights. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap.

In United Premium Plus® and United Polaris® business class, your entrée, dessert and bread will be served together. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap. You’ll receive a pre-packaged snack for midflight and a fresh packaged meal for pre-arrival on select flights.
orignal posting
Safety updates to inflight dining
Your safety and the safety of our employees is our highest priority. To try and further limit potential exposure to coronavirus (COVID-19) on board, we’re temporarily adjusting our inflight service as of March 29 and will be moving to primarily pre-packaged foods and sealed beverages. Preorder meals and food for purchase will not be available. We’re also unable to offer special meals except for Kosher meals on flights to and from Tel Aviv.

Beverage changes for all flights
We will only offer sealed beverages and we will no longer offer ice, coffee and tea service, and poured alcohol. Instead of pouring you water from a large bottle, we’ll provide sealed individual water bottles. In premium cabins, we will offer beer and individual wines. Flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes will only have beverages on request.

Food changes for domestic flights
For flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes, we will not offer a snack service in any cabin. As always, you’re welcome to bring snacks on board.

For flights over 2 hours and 20 minutes, you will receive your choice of pretzels, a stroopwafel or cookies in United Economy®. In the premium cabin, you’ll be offered a snackbox.

Food changes for premium transcontinental flights
If you’re flying in United Economy or Economy Plus®, you’ll be offered a snack choice. Customers in the premium cabin will receive their packaged meal with their entrée choice covered and will be offered a packaged snack for pre-arrival.

Food changes for international flights
In United Economy®, you’ll receive an entrée, a snack and packaged dessert, as well as pre-packed mid-flight and pre-arrival items on select flights. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap.

In United Premium Plus® and United Polaris® business class, your entrée, dessert and bread will be served together. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap. You’ll receive a pre-packaged snack for midflight and a fresh packaged meal for pre-arrival.


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Old Sep 18, 2021, 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
PDB in plastic cups - is that market demand?
There's really nothing wrong with PDBs in plastic cups right now. Even DL doesn't offer them at the moment. "Covid Crutch" as I call it for F/A's not doing the work.

However another user said they miss sorbet on the HI flights and to be honest, that side course was a poor excuse for the actual sundae. Sorbet is just gross in general, and I'll take a Ben and Jerry's cup on DL over that. However, UA should really look into just covering up standard pre-made ice cream sundaes and serving them instead. We can't forget UA had a problem like this for a while and phased them out because the bowls broke after the Polaris launch though.
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Old Sep 18, 2021, 11:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
PDB in plastic cups - is that market demand?
For as long as I can remember, UA did their PDBs in plastic. The reasoning was they didn't have to collect it at departure like they did if it was glass.

But in the end, yes. If there's no market pressure to change, there won't be a change.
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Old Sep 18, 2021, 11:36 pm
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Originally Posted by halls120
In the meantime, on LH in business I recently received a PDB and menu upon boarding, beverages served in glasses, warm nuts in a ramekin, my appetizer and meal plated attractively, two different types of bread, neither one in a cellophane wrapper, and was offered a cold and hot arrival meal also plated attractively.

If LH can do it, why can’t UA?
LH is a JV partner of UA. Regardless, US airlines don’t consider foreign airlines competition
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Old Sep 18, 2021, 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Saab_Redondo_1987
There's really nothing wrong with PDBs in plastic cups right now. Even DL doesn't offer them at the moment. "Covid Crutch" as I call it for F/A's not doing the work.

However another user said they miss sorbet on the HI flights and to be honest, that side course was a poor excuse for the actual sundae. Sorbet is just gross in general, and I'll take a Ben and Jerry's cup on DL over that. However, UA should really look into just covering up standard pre-made ice cream sundaes and serving them instead. We can't forget UA had a problem like this for a while and phased them out because the bowls broke after the Polaris launch though.
There has been no PDB on UA throughout Covid. Delta had been heavily criticized for its cutback; just as UA is deserved for its inflight service reductions in the name of safety.
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 12:28 am
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
LH is a JV partner of UA. Regardless, US airlines don’t consider foreign airlines competition
Except UA's domestic competitors (AA and AS) have been better, and DL is now back to being competitive again (after its catering cuts). In my experience, UA's largest Achilles' heel is (lack of) consistency and trying to get the majority of the crew to actually giving a damn about their customers, regardless of GS or a general member, and everyone in between.
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 12:58 am
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
Except UA's domestic competitors (AA and AS) have been better, and DL is now back to being competitive again (after its catering cuts). In my experience, UA's largest Achilles' heel is (lack of) consistency and trying to get the majority of the crew to actually giving a damn about their customers, regardless of GS or a general member, and everyone in between.
I love the grading on a curve here. Anyone outraged!!! at United should be outraged at Delta too. But the other airlines are nothing but tools to selectively invoke to condemn United for meaningless things like serving drinks in disposable cups.

And American had its cutbacks too.

United is a great airline. I have flown several times this year and have arrived safely, with friendly service, and in comfort. They get the basic stuff right, which is what really matters.
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
I love the grading on a curve here. Anyone outraged!!! at United should be outraged at Delta too. But the other airlines are nothing but tools to selectively invoke to condemn United for meaningless things like serving drinks in disposable cups.

And American had its cutbacks too.

United is a great airline. I have flown several times this year and have arrived safely, with friendly service, and in comfort. They get the basic stuff right, which is what really matters.
really?, I am back to regular flight schedule and 80% of my UA flights had delays this year.
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by WIRunner
For as long as I can remember, UA did their PDBs in plastic. The reasoning was they didn't have to collect it at departure like they did if it was glass.

But in the end, yes. If there's no market pressure to change, there won't be a change.
Correct. MANY years ago PDBs were in glass. Then the FAA mandated that (among other things) all galley compartment must be closed & latched before taxi (it may even have been door closure?), and remain closed/latched during taxi. There was no way to return a glass to its rack once taxi began, so rather than require all drink glasses be collected before taxi, UA decided to switch to plastic when can be dropped into a trash bin with a spring-loaded cover -- the FAA was fine with that.

I guess another option would have been to just toss all the glassware into the trash, too, but UA decided against that. 🙂
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
I love the grading on a curve here. Anyone outraged!!! at United should be outraged at Delta too. But the other airlines are nothing but tools to selectively invoke to condemn United for meaningless things like serving drinks in disposable cups.

And American had its cutbacks too.

United is a great airline. I have flown several times this year and have arrived safely, with friendly service, and in comfort. They get the basic stuff right, which is what really matters.
Uh? I have flown close to 100 flights already this year across multiple airlines. There is no grading on a curve except for actual data points. Go look at how much Delta had been criticized for its meals reduction over the past year+.
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
United is a great airline.
LOLOLOLOL
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 3:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Saab_Redondo_1987
There's really nothing wrong with PDBs in plastic cups right now. Even DL doesn't offer them at the moment. "Covid Crutch" as I call it for F/A's not doing the work.

However another user said they miss sorbet on the HI flights and to be honest, that side course was a poor excuse for the actual sundae. Sorbet is just gross in general, and I'll take a Ben and Jerry's cup on DL over that. However, UA should really look into just covering up standard pre-made ice cream sundaes and serving them instead. We can't forget UA had a problem like this for a while and phased them out because the bowls broke after the Polaris launch though.
Originally Posted by Repooc17
There has been no PDB on UA throughout Covid. Delta had been heavily criticized for its cutback; just as UA is deserved for its inflight service reductions in the name of safety.
Nevermind PDB, Delta straight up cut out all meal service in First until June 15th even on transcons in favor of crappy snack boxes. UA's snack boxes have always remained decent but DL's even seemed to be cut back during COVID.

For the life of me, I still don't understand why both UA and DL eliminated both of their BOB programs (UA until recently). If it's covered up and wrapped, what's the harm? It's not like having wrappers coming out of a snack box and eaten on a tray table is sterile or something.

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Old Sep 19, 2021, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by halls120
In the meantime, on LH in business I recently received a PDB and menu upon boarding, beverages served in glasses, warm nuts in a ramekin, my appetizer and meal plated attractively, two different types of bread, neither one in a cellophane wrapper, and was offered a cold and hot arrival meal also plated attractively.

If LH can do it, why can’t UA?
because UA don’t want to and some flyers are ok with that. If you point out the discrepancy you’ll eventually get the ‘foreign airlines are subsidized argument which conveniently overlooks the billions handed out to the US airlines, or the ‘if you don’t like it fly a different airline’ response.

As a GS I’ve added one UA TATL trip this fall to meet the 1K requirements for 280 Plus Points, but for the rest of my fall travel I’m getting better value / product / service by flying KLM / Lufthansa.

Until United Mgmt wake up and realize their business product isn’t competitive, they’re lengthening their road to recovery.

the ‘business travel is down’ argument must only apply to the big three US airlines…

Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
LH is a JV partner of UA. Regardless, US airlines don’t consider foreign airlines competition
and until they do so they’ll continue to lose business to their competitors.
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Dyce
and until they do so they’ll continue to lose business to their competitors.
However, let me remind you that there are many US based flyers that prefer a US based carrier over a foreign one for their personal comfort.
Some also prefer UA for lifetime miles and some do for PlusPoints, etc...

Although, to be honest, with the current service and business model of UA, United is very likely going to be a fake 5* airline in the Skytrax list like Lufthansa.
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Dyce
because UA don’t want to and some flyers are ok with that. If you point out the discrepancy you’ll eventually get the ‘foreign airlines are subsidized argument which conveniently overlooks the billions handed out to the US airlines, or the ‘if you don’t like it fly a different airline’ response.

As a GS I’ve added one UA TATL trip this fall to meet the 1K requirements for 280 Plus Points, but for the rest of my fall travel I’m getting better value / product / service by flying KLM / Lufthansa.

Until United Mgmt wake up and realize their business product isn’t competitive, they’re lengthening their road to recovery.

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Quite the opposite, if they improved service in a class where revenue is way down, they'd be throwing away money for no reason.
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
Quite the opposite, if they improved service in a class where revenue is way down, they'd be throwing away money for no reason.
Except UA was hardly the leader (even in the US domestic carrier sense), or even close to being at the top on inflight services prior to Covid, during which period the carrier was raking in the cash, and made little to no effort to attend to its customers.
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