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Updated posting July 2020 - Ice, tea and coffee returns and some small food enhancements.
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crew meals, covered by contract, appear minimally changed
Updated posting July 2020 - Ice, tea and coffee returns and some small food enhancements.
Safety updates to inflight dining
Your safety and the safety of our employees is our highest priority. To try and further limit potential exposure to coronavirus (COVID-19) on board, were temporarily adjusting our inflight service as of March 29 and will be moving to primarily pre-packaged foods and sealed beverages. Preorder meals and food for purchase will not be available. Were also unable to offer special meals except for Kosher meals on flights to and from Tel Aviv.
Beverage changes for all flights
We will be offering sealed beverages on all flights. If youre on a flight under 1 hour, youll receive beverages on request. Well also offer coffee and tea on domestic flights departing before 9:45 a.m. and on all international and premium transcontinental flights. Non-alcoholic beverages are complimentary, and alcoholic beverages are complimentary in premium cabins. Wine and beer are also complimentary in United Economy on long-haul international flights.
Food changes for domestic flights
We won't have snacks available in United Economy for flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes or in United First for flights under 1 hour. As always, you're welcome to bring snacks on board. For flights between 1 hour and 2 hours and 20 minutes in United First, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks.
For flights 2 hours and 20 minutes or longer, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks in United Economy. In the premium cabin, you'll be offered a snack box.
Food changes for premium transcontinental flights
If you're flying in United Economy or Economy Plus, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks. Customers in the premium cabin will receive their meal with their entre choice covered and will be offered a packaged snack for pre-arrival.
Food changes for international flights
In United Economy, youll receive an entre, a snack and packaged dessert, as well as pre-packed mid-flight and pre-arrival items on select flights. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap.
In United Premium Plus and United Polaris business class, your entre, dessert and bread will be served together. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap. Youll receive a pre-packaged snack for midflight and a fresh packaged meal for pre-arrival on select flights.
Your safety and the safety of our employees is our highest priority. To try and further limit potential exposure to coronavirus (COVID-19) on board, were temporarily adjusting our inflight service as of March 29 and will be moving to primarily pre-packaged foods and sealed beverages. Preorder meals and food for purchase will not be available. Were also unable to offer special meals except for Kosher meals on flights to and from Tel Aviv.
Beverage changes for all flights
We will be offering sealed beverages on all flights. If youre on a flight under 1 hour, youll receive beverages on request. Well also offer coffee and tea on domestic flights departing before 9:45 a.m. and on all international and premium transcontinental flights. Non-alcoholic beverages are complimentary, and alcoholic beverages are complimentary in premium cabins. Wine and beer are also complimentary in United Economy on long-haul international flights.
Food changes for domestic flights
We won't have snacks available in United Economy for flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes or in United First for flights under 1 hour. As always, you're welcome to bring snacks on board. For flights between 1 hour and 2 hours and 20 minutes in United First, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks.
For flights 2 hours and 20 minutes or longer, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks in United Economy. In the premium cabin, you'll be offered a snack box.
Food changes for premium transcontinental flights
If you're flying in United Economy or Economy Plus, you'll receive an "all-in-one" snack bag with a wrapped sanitizer wipe, 8.5-ounce bottled water and two snacks. Customers in the premium cabin will receive their meal with their entre choice covered and will be offered a packaged snack for pre-arrival.
Food changes for international flights
In United Economy, youll receive an entre, a snack and packaged dessert, as well as pre-packed mid-flight and pre-arrival items on select flights. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap.
In United Premium Plus and United Polaris business class, your entre, dessert and bread will be served together. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap. Youll receive a pre-packaged snack for midflight and a fresh packaged meal for pre-arrival on select flights.
Safety updates to inflight dining
Your safety and the safety of our employees is our highest priority. To try and further limit potential exposure to coronavirus (COVID-19) on board, were temporarily adjusting our inflight service as of March 29 and will be moving to primarily pre-packaged foods and sealed beverages. Preorder meals and food for purchase will not be available. Were also unable to offer special meals except for Kosher meals on flights to and from Tel Aviv.
Beverage changes for all flights
We will only offer sealed beverages and we will no longer offer ice, coffee and tea service, and poured alcohol. Instead of pouring you water from a large bottle, well provide sealed individual water bottles. In premium cabins, we will offer beer and individual wines. Flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes will only have beverages on request.
Food changes for domestic flights
For flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes, we will not offer a snack service in any cabin. As always, youre welcome to bring snacks on board.
For flights over 2 hours and 20 minutes, you will receive your choice of pretzels, a stroopwafel or cookies in United Economy. In the premium cabin, youll be offered a snackbox.
Food changes for premium transcontinental flights
If youre flying in United Economy or Economy Plus, youll be offered a snack choice. Customers in the premium cabin will receive their packaged meal with their entre choice covered and will be offered a packaged snack for pre-arrival.
Food changes for international flights
In United Economy, youll receive an entre, a snack and packaged dessert, as well as pre-packed mid-flight and pre-arrival items on select flights. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap.
In United Premium Plus and United Polaris business class, your entre, dessert and bread will be served together. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap. Youll receive a pre-packaged snack for midflight and a fresh packaged meal for pre-arrival.
Your safety and the safety of our employees is our highest priority. To try and further limit potential exposure to coronavirus (COVID-19) on board, were temporarily adjusting our inflight service as of March 29 and will be moving to primarily pre-packaged foods and sealed beverages. Preorder meals and food for purchase will not be available. Were also unable to offer special meals except for Kosher meals on flights to and from Tel Aviv.
Beverage changes for all flights
We will only offer sealed beverages and we will no longer offer ice, coffee and tea service, and poured alcohol. Instead of pouring you water from a large bottle, well provide sealed individual water bottles. In premium cabins, we will offer beer and individual wines. Flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes will only have beverages on request.
Food changes for domestic flights
For flights under 2 hours and 20 minutes, we will not offer a snack service in any cabin. As always, youre welcome to bring snacks on board.
For flights over 2 hours and 20 minutes, you will receive your choice of pretzels, a stroopwafel or cookies in United Economy. In the premium cabin, youll be offered a snackbox.
Food changes for premium transcontinental flights
If youre flying in United Economy or Economy Plus, youll be offered a snack choice. Customers in the premium cabin will receive their packaged meal with their entre choice covered and will be offered a packaged snack for pre-arrival.
Food changes for international flights
In United Economy, youll receive an entre, a snack and packaged dessert, as well as pre-packed mid-flight and pre-arrival items on select flights. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap.
In United Premium Plus and United Polaris business class, your entre, dessert and bread will be served together. Everything is served packaged or covered for you to unwrap. Youll receive a pre-packaged snack for midflight and a fresh packaged meal for pre-arrival.
crew meals, covered by contract, appear minimally changed
COVID Era UA inflight service changes {Archive}
#2056
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Delaware
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Posts: 1,384
A meal. Plated on actual glassware, with metal cutlery. Heated in the galley by a competent cabin crew. I mean, we're not talking about Y on EasyJet here...
If what is to be expected on a 2.75 hour flight in first class is essentially a cardboard box of shelf-stable snacks our expectations have fallen far too low as consumers.
If what is to be expected on a 2.75 hour flight in first class is essentially a cardboard box of shelf-stable snacks our expectations have fallen far too low as consumers.
And the funny thing is that a nice plated "snack" has such a low cost when done at high economies of scale. The FAs are working regardless. Do I dare say that they are yet to cut the highest expense for them in an F cabin, personal real estate?
Does Spirit still have the "Big Front Seats" but with the Y service as advertised? Because that's basically what this was.
#2057
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: California
Programs: American, SWA, United, IHG,Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 1,829
Are all these complaints about F from people who actually paid for the tickets? Or got them as free upgrades?
#2058
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.99MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
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#2059
Join Date: Feb 2015
Programs: united
Posts: 1,636
Honestly, when you call something "First Class," I expect something a lot better than coach. The seat, yes, was much better. 1 round of drinks in F is not better than 1 round of drinks in Y. And giving me a salty, high fat snack in a cardboard box is anything but "First Class" in my opinion. Anyone who says that the snack box is better than what they receive in Y is making the same argument that Banquet frozen dinners are higher quality than a can of sardines and crackers.
And the funny thing is that a nice plated "snack" has such a low cost when done at high economies of scale. The FAs are working regardless. Do I dare say that they are yet to cut the highest expense for them in an F cabin, personal real estate?
Does Spirit still have the "Big Front Seats" but with the Y service as advertised? Because that's basically what this was.
And the funny thing is that a nice plated "snack" has such a low cost when done at high economies of scale. The FAs are working regardless. Do I dare say that they are yet to cut the highest expense for them in an F cabin, personal real estate?
Does Spirit still have the "Big Front Seats" but with the Y service as advertised? Because that's basically what this was.
UA and other airlines aren't hiding what you get. If it isn't worth the extra fare, travelers can decide not to fly it.
#2060
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 57,233
When Polaris was rolled out, the soft product was far better than anything AA and DL offered, and on par with the *A airlines. Now, it's a sad joke. Except for the wine - it is actually improved over the swill they served pre-COVID.
#2062
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 57,233
I'm sorry, it was a 10pm departure delayed for two hours, and I was beat. But since I was having the turbot (after 3 flights with the beef), I was offered two whites, and I chose the bordeaux, and it was quite drinkable.
#2063
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DEN
Programs: UA Silver, whatever the Amex plat gets me and somehow still IHG Diamond after 3 years of no nights
Posts: 692
I also had a couple glasses of the current white Bordeaux 2 weeks ago and enjoyed it. Never saw the bottle.
#2064
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Location: NYC
Posts: 27,190
So how tight is UA sticking to the 4hr block time for a real meal in F?
Looking at a EWR-Carrib route thats a little under 4h, but shows as lunch on the UA app.
I rarely fly UA (was an old CO guy! ) but am considering this vs Delta, which I know will be a snack box and limited beverages.
Looking at a EWR-Carrib route thats a little under 4h, but shows as lunch on the UA app.
I rarely fly UA (was an old CO guy! ) but am considering this vs Delta, which I know will be a snack box and limited beverages.
#2065
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#2066
Join Date: May 2014
Programs: UA 1K, AA Gold, DL Silver
Posts: 410
So how tight is UA sticking to the 4hr block time for a real meal in F?
Looking at a EWR-Carrib route thats a little under 4h, but shows as lunch on the UA app.
I rarely fly UA (was an old CO guy! ) but am considering this vs Delta, which I know will be a snack box and limited beverages.
Looking at a EWR-Carrib route thats a little under 4h, but shows as lunch on the UA app.
I rarely fly UA (was an old CO guy! ) but am considering this vs Delta, which I know will be a snack box and limited beverages.
#2067
Join Date: Feb 2015
Programs: united
Posts: 1,636
I flew roundtrips to Hawaii and Colombia recently, and the food in the front cabin was delicious on every meal flight. Not just "decent". Delicious.
#2068
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
Programs: UA GS4MM, MR LT Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 6,447
On my last TATL, my Y fare was 1915.00 R/T. I upgraded both legs at purchase, which cost me $575.00 and 40000 miles. So while I don't expect a restaurant quality meal, I do expect more than no PDB, cold nuts, a cold piece of tasteless bread, and 2 tablespoons of frozen "gelato" for dessert. UA's *A partners can offer it, why can't UA?
When Polaris was rolled out, the soft product was far better than anything AA and DL offered, and on par with the *A airlines. Now, it's a sad joke. Except for the wine - it is actually improved over the swill they served pre-COVID.
When Polaris was rolled out, the soft product was far better than anything AA and DL offered, and on par with the *A airlines. Now, it's a sad joke. Except for the wine - it is actually improved over the swill they served pre-COVID.
Here is why - the leisure market will never be a large driver of profits for the US Big 3 in the international market. Leisure travel might be driving the market today but the airlines aren't going to pivot to the market as a long term strategy.
They need business travel to come back - maybe sometime 2022 or maybe 2023 - or international travel is going to become more of a niche market. And if you are going to bet on business travel - which I think the US airlines have no choice - they are going to rely on corporate contracts.
And if you are going to woo corporate travel departments - you are going to pitch:
1) Volume Discounts 2) Hard Product = Employee Sleep 3) The Route with JV partners who come along for the ride 3) A Lounge for privacy/work before a flight 4) FF benefits/upgrades/status to Executives and a distant 5th if brought up at all is going to be onboard food/drink. It just isn't a good look to many corporate travel departments to be pitched high end alcohol and a gourmet in the sky. Let's face it Tim Cook is not going to step on a UA plane.
You must've been on a afternoon/evening flight out of Hawaii - I broke down recently and had the egg quiche thing and it was truly awful and incredibly dry even with that red sauce - but glad you enjoyed it. I wish they had the scrambled eggs they have on the mainland flights.
Last edited by HNLbasedFlyer; Aug 22, 2021 at 11:38 pm Reason: yikes - meant glassware will come back plastic go away someday
#2069
Join Date: May 2014
Programs: UA 1K, AA Gold, DL Silver
Posts: 410
We have different standards. The leading European and Asian airlines have always had significantly better food & bev, and continue to do so now. UA cut service and food for safety reasons yet I had perfectly great J meals on AA from MIA-LAX multiple times during Covid. Its all about cost savings.
#2070
Join Date: Feb 2015
Programs: united
Posts: 1,636
We have different standards. The leading European and Asian airlines have always had significantly better food & bev, and continue to do so now. UA cut service and food for safety reasons yet I had perfectly great J meals on AA from MIA-LAX multiple times during Covid. Its all about cost savings.
And how come nobody here compares UA food to Delta?