Aug 3, 2019, 1:19 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
2019 GS Timeline:
- First requalification notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
- First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
- Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
- Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
- First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
If you have received notification about your 2020 GS status, please post in
Global Services 2020 Notifications (ONLY) -- "no discussion" (and as title suggests, this is just for notifications, use this thread for discussions / queries
and
Form Link to collect this years qualification (or rejection) information
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
Last year's thread
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions
GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion / Questions
Sep 9, 2019, 9:58 pm
#61
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 5,528
*grin* you don't read my TRs, do you? I spend a lot of time in LH F, which yes, is totally an awesome benefit.... unfortunately, JNB sells out in F a lot of the time, so even on a C fare little love.
Sep 9, 2019, 10:10 pm
#62
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: DEN
Programs: UA GS, Marriott Gold
Posts: 174
With so many UA options across the oceans, you should be able to get over the hump.
Sep 9, 2019, 10:17 pm
#63
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 5,528
Sep 10, 2019, 4:08 am
#64
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 489
Just a suggestion, I'm not entirely familiar with passplus but from my understanding it can be used to book *A.
so if you're spending 50k+ why not sign up for PassPlus get GS and use the money for your LH/LX flights?
so if you're spending 50k+ why not sign up for PassPlus get GS and use the money for your LH/LX flights?
Sep 10, 2019, 6:51 am
#65
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 5,528
Sep 11, 2019, 8:26 am
#66
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: texas
Programs: ua gs, bonvoy platinum, hyatt explorist
Posts: 16
IAH based flyer with status earned/booked through mid-October:
PQM: 150,400
PQD: $65,400
BIS: 98,600 (100% UA Metal)
Travel by flights taken is 85% IAH to MAF on B fare. Made over 60% of my PQD on 3 INTL flights on J's or C's.
Will have 3 or 4 more IAH to MAF flights between mid-October and year end, that still need to be booked.
Previous Years:
2018: 122,800 - $32,400
2017: 103,100 - $18,500
2016: 100,300 - $19,800
Chances?
PQM: 150,400
PQD: $65,400
BIS: 98,600 (100% UA Metal)
Travel by flights taken is 85% IAH to MAF on B fare. Made over 60% of my PQD on 3 INTL flights on J's or C's.
Will have 3 or 4 more IAH to MAF flights between mid-October and year end, that still need to be booked.
Previous Years:
2018: 122,800 - $32,400
2017: 103,100 - $18,500
2016: 100,300 - $19,800
Chances?
Sep 11, 2019, 9:34 am
#67
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Catania, Sicily/South Jersey (PHL)/Houston, Texas/Red Stick/airborne in-between
Programs: United Global Svs, AA PlatPro, WN RR, AZ/ITA Freccia, Hilton Diam, Bonvoy Gold, Hertz Prez, IHG
Posts: 3,548
Always making changes to my flights; I book a lot of close in travel, nearly all biz class (and domestic first):
#s as of today:
Premier Qualifying Miles (PQM): 231,751
Premier Qualifying Segments (PQS): 97
Premier Qualifying Dollars (PQD): $59,668
Right now I am booking more on AA to try and keep exec plate or at lest platpro.
These numbers are higher then the last two years I qual'd so I presume a re-qual but of course with GS YMMV.
#s as of today:
Premier Qualifying Miles (PQM): 231,751
Premier Qualifying Segments (PQS): 97
Premier Qualifying Dollars (PQD): $59,668
Right now I am booking more on AA to try and keep exec plate or at lest platpro.
These numbers are higher then the last two years I qual'd so I presume a re-qual but of course with GS YMMV.
Sep 11, 2019, 11:07 am
#68
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA MM Plat, UA 1MM, Hilton Lifetime Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold, CLEAR, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 3,621
Always making changes to my flights; I book a lot of close in travel, nearly all biz class (and domestic first):
#s as of today:
Premier Qualifying Miles (PQM): 231,751
Premier Qualifying Segments (PQS): 97
Premier Qualifying Dollars (PQD): $59,668
Right now I am booking more on AA to try and keep exec plate or at lest platpro.
These numbers are higher then the last two years I qual'd so I presume a re-qual but of course with GS YMMV.
#s as of today:
Premier Qualifying Miles (PQM): 231,751
Premier Qualifying Segments (PQS): 97
Premier Qualifying Dollars (PQD): $59,668
Right now I am booking more on AA to try and keep exec plate or at lest platpro.
These numbers are higher then the last two years I qual'd so I presume a re-qual but of course with GS YMMV.
Sep 11, 2019, 12:04 pm
#69
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: ORD | LGA | 2E
Programs: UA GS 1.6MM UC | AA CK 0.7MM AC | Bonvoy Ambassador | Hyatt Globalist | Hertz PC
Posts: 1,054
IAH based flyer with status earned/booked through mid-October:
PQM: 150,400
PQD: $65,400
BIS: 98,600 (100% UA Metal)
Travel by flights taken is 85% IAH to MAF on B fare. Made over 60% of my PQD on 3 INTL flights on J's or C's.
Will have 3 or 4 more IAH to MAF flights between mid-October and year end, that still need to be booked.
Previous Years:
2018: 122,800 - $32,400
2017: 103,100 - $18,500
2016: 100,300 - $19,800
Chances?
PQM: 150,400
PQD: $65,400
BIS: 98,600 (100% UA Metal)
Travel by flights taken is 85% IAH to MAF on B fare. Made over 60% of my PQD on 3 INTL flights on J's or C's.
Will have 3 or 4 more IAH to MAF flights between mid-October and year end, that still need to be booked.
Previous Years:
2018: 122,800 - $32,400
2017: 103,100 - $18,500
2016: 100,300 - $19,800
Chances?
Sep 12, 2019, 11:43 am
#70
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: texas
Programs: ua gs, bonvoy platinum, hyatt explorist
Posts: 16
Sep 12, 2019, 3:50 pm
#71
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: United Global Services, Amtrak Select Executive
Posts: 4,098
IAH based flyer with status earned/booked through mid-October:
PQM: 150,400
PQD: $65,400
BIS: 98,600 (100% UA Metal)
Travel by flights taken is 85% IAH to MAF on B fare. Made over 60% of my PQD on 3 INTL flights on J's or C's.
Will have 3 or 4 more IAH to MAF flights between mid-October and year end, that still need to be booked.
Previous Years:
2018: 122,800 - $32,400
2017: 103,100 - $18,500
2016: 100,300 - $19,800
Chances?
PQM: 150,400
PQD: $65,400
BIS: 98,600 (100% UA Metal)
Travel by flights taken is 85% IAH to MAF on B fare. Made over 60% of my PQD on 3 INTL flights on J's or C's.
Will have 3 or 4 more IAH to MAF flights between mid-October and year end, that still need to be booked.
Previous Years:
2018: 122,800 - $32,400
2017: 103,100 - $18,500
2016: 100,300 - $19,800
Chances?
Sep 12, 2019, 3:55 pm
#72
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, UA Gold, WN, Global Entry; +others wherever miles/points are found
Posts: 14,424
There is certainly a level where 3-year stops mattering; see the midyear invites if nothing else. Over 60k and I'd think you're in.
Sep 12, 2019, 5:24 pm
#73
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 5,528
Looking to be around $65-70k PQD this year, but only around $45k or so UA metal. What's the general consensus on IAD/DCA? I would think due to government fares the threshold might be a little lower here, but then again there's all those lawyers and defense contractors...
Sep 12, 2019, 5:39 pm
#74
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA MM Plat, UA 1MM, Hilton Lifetime Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold, CLEAR, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 3,621
Looking to be around $65-70k PQD this year, but only around $45k or so UA metal. What's the general consensus on IAD/DCA? I would think due to government fares the threshold might be a little lower here, but then again there's all those lawyers and defense contractors...
Sep 14, 2019, 5:34 pm
#75
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Washington DC
Programs: United 1MM, Marriott Titanium (Lifetime Platinum)
Posts: 320
This is the first year I think I've got a chance. Based out of IAD, almost all travel this year paid business (typically discounted fares). Had to go through old records to figure out UA PQD (have a couple of United Express in there, but less than $500 due to fact almost all my travel in international. I also just hit 1MM on United this year but of course that isn't worth anywhere near what it used to be pre-merger...
Stats:
- 2019 (projected and already purchased) - 230K PQM/67 Segments/45,329 PQD (United)/55,452 PQD (total)
- 2018 - 152K PQM/63 Segments/31,722 PQD (United)/35,088 PQD (total)
- 2017 - 125K PQM/55 Segments/16,281 PQD (United)/20060 PQD (total)
Reason for the big difference between United and Total PQD is a lot of Lufthansa flights from FRA to the Middle East after I fly across the Atlantic on United. Fact they basically eliminated all their flights from DC to the middle east really hurt me there. I do have a possibility of booking another trip to the middle east this year which would likely net me another ~3-4K United PQD. I know the general consensus on this list is that 50K UA PQD is enough to get over the line in all but the most GS-heave bases (SFO). I'm not sure where IAD falls into that mix. Does anyone have experience/thoughts on possibility of qualifying our of IAD with these numbers?
Stats:
- 2019 (projected and already purchased) - 230K PQM/67 Segments/45,329 PQD (United)/55,452 PQD (total)
- 2018 - 152K PQM/63 Segments/31,722 PQD (United)/35,088 PQD (total)
- 2017 - 125K PQM/55 Segments/16,281 PQD (United)/20060 PQD (total)
Reason for the big difference between United and Total PQD is a lot of Lufthansa flights from FRA to the Middle East after I fly across the Atlantic on United. Fact they basically eliminated all their flights from DC to the middle east really hurt me there. I do have a possibility of booking another trip to the middle east this year which would likely net me another ~3-4K United PQD. I know the general consensus on this list is that 50K UA PQD is enough to get over the line in all but the most GS-heave bases (SFO). I'm not sure where IAD falls into that mix. Does anyone have experience/thoughts on possibility of qualifying our of IAD with these numbers?