Aug 3, 2019, 1:19 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
2019 GS Timeline:
- First requalification notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
- First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
- Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
- Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
- First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
If you have received notification about your 2020 GS status, please post in
Global Services 2020 Notifications (ONLY) -- "no discussion" (and as title suggests, this is just for notifications, use this thread for discussions / queries
and
Form Link to collect this years qualification (or rejection) information
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
Last year's thread
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions
GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion / Questions
Aug 5, 2019, 2:14 pm
#16
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA MM Plat, UA 1MM, Hilton Lifetime Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold, CLEAR, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 3,621
. I may be one and done with GS unfortunately.
Aug 5, 2019, 2:22 pm
#17
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,116
Sitting at $35k now
2-3 more 8-9k international trips and 7-8 more transcons (700ish).
Qualified last year first year with $55k PQD $51k on UA
2-3 more 8-9k international trips and 7-8 more transcons (700ish).
Qualified last year first year with $55k PQD $51k on UA
Aug 5, 2019, 2:45 pm
#18
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, UA Gold, WN, Global Entry; +others wherever miles/points are found
Posts: 14,424
Well pretty nice! As someone above mentioned, people on this thread have even questioned mid year qualifying for GS was possible. Seems like it may actually be a bit more frequent now. Thank goodness they don't mid year :"unqualify" or I would be in trouble . I may be one and done with GS unfortunately.
. I may be one and done with GS unfortunately.
Aug 5, 2019, 2:54 pm
#19
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 203
I also received a mid-year invite in June as a first-time GS. I was sitting at around $85k at that time and the membership card I received also indicated it was valid through January 2021 so I'm assuming it's a good sign for next year. Expect to end the year around $140-150k. Next year will be significantly lower, so I'm hoping that trailing average remains a consideration.
Aug 5, 2019, 4:32 pm
#20
Moderator: Midwest, Las Vegas & Dining Buzz
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 17,976
One thing to note: You can have X amount already flown, but the Y amount "booked" will not count whatsoever. So you have to go with what you have flown for the mid-year review.
Aug 5, 2019, 4:43 pm
#21
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Pacific
Programs: UA GS, Lifetime 4 MM, BA Gold, , Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite, Marriott Ambassador Elite
Posts: 476
4 Million miles so I am not concerned. I'm at $49K with another $40K booking for this year. I make a concerted effort to fly BA, because I love BA first class.
Aug 6, 2019, 11:49 am
#23
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K MM, Marriott Life Plat, various others of little note
Posts: 2,763
premium plus fares
Any thoughts on how premium plus fares fit into GS qualification? I've read elsewhere that the GS reviewers heavily favor business class and full fare economy spending. But what about premium plus, which can be pretty pricey (almost P) and pretty cheap (as in lower than the higher economy fares)?
Aug 6, 2019, 12:17 pm
#24
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Silicon wasteland
Programs: UA 1KMM
Posts: 1,381
Any thoughts on how premium plus fares fit into GS qualification? I've read elsewhere that the GS reviewers heavily favor business class and full fare economy spending. But what about premium plus, which can be pretty pricey (almost P) and pretty cheap (as in lower than the higher economy fares)?
Perhaps for cases where you are on the border, cpm may come into play. But total UA-metal PQD as the driving factor seems incontrovertible.
Aug 6, 2019, 1:58 pm
#25
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: DEN
Programs: UA-GS; WN A-list;Hyatt - CC; Hertz - PC
Posts: 644
I'm at 62,650 PQM
32 PQS
$24,999 Spend right now, including one Full Fare F to Italy and back.
I'm very worried about making it the rest of this year as I only have short hops remaining. I really do not want to have to make that Mileage Run to PVG at the end of the year but it sure is looking likely!
32 PQS
$24,999 Spend right now, including one Full Fare F to Italy and back.
I'm very worried about making it the rest of this year as I only have short hops remaining. I really do not want to have to make that Mileage Run to PVG at the end of the year but it sure is looking likely!
Aug 14, 2019, 12:54 pm
#26
Join Date: Aug 2019
Programs: UA 1K; Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 1
GS chances
Hi all - I am based in SEA and current year status (as of August 14th) is:
PQD – Total: $64,788; UA only: $63,619 (the $1.169 was spent on LH flight)
PQS - Total: 64.5; UA only: 61.5
PQM – Total: 333,327; UA 328,301
For the rest of the year, I still have 3 domestic trips in Economy Class which may add another $1,000 to my PQD.
Previous years - 2018: $38K; 2017 and before: $3K a year.
Lifetime flight miles 550,000
Here is my question, what do you think are my chances of making GS? I have the option of taking another J Int’l flight of $7,500 putting me over $70K – Do you think this is necessary? I prefer not to take it and to postpone to next year but will take it if it improves the chances of making GS. Thanks!
PQD – Total: $64,788; UA only: $63,619 (the $1.169 was spent on LH flight)
PQS - Total: 64.5; UA only: 61.5
PQM – Total: 333,327; UA 328,301
For the rest of the year, I still have 3 domestic trips in Economy Class which may add another $1,000 to my PQD.
Previous years - 2018: $38K; 2017 and before: $3K a year.
Lifetime flight miles 550,000
Here is my question, what do you think are my chances of making GS? I have the option of taking another J Int’l flight of $7,500 putting me over $70K – Do you think this is necessary? I prefer not to take it and to postpone to next year but will take it if it improves the chances of making GS. Thanks!
Aug 14, 2019, 1:00 pm
#27
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: ORD | LGA | 2E
Programs: UA GS 1.6MM UC | AA CK 0.7MM AC | Bonvoy Ambassador | Hyatt Globalist | Hertz PC
Posts: 1,054
Hi all - I am based in SEA and current year status (as of August 14th) is:
PQD – Total: $64,788; UA only: $63,619 (the $1.169 was spent on LH flight)
PQS - Total: 64.5; UA only: 61.5
PQM – Total: 333,327; UA 328,301
For the rest of the year, I still have 3 domestic trips in Economy Class which may add another $1,000 to my PQD.
Previous years - 2018: $38K; 2017 and before: $3K a year.
Lifetime flight miles 550,000
Here is my question, what do you think are my chances of making GS? I have the option of taking another J Int’l flight of $7,500 putting me over $70K – Do you think this is necessary? I prefer not to take it and to postpone to next year but will take it if it improves the chances of making GS. Thanks!
PQD – Total: $64,788; UA only: $63,619 (the $1.169 was spent on LH flight)
PQS - Total: 64.5; UA only: 61.5
PQM – Total: 333,327; UA 328,301
For the rest of the year, I still have 3 domestic trips in Economy Class which may add another $1,000 to my PQD.
Previous years - 2018: $38K; 2017 and before: $3K a year.
Lifetime flight miles 550,000
Here is my question, what do you think are my chances of making GS? I have the option of taking another J Int’l flight of $7,500 putting me over $70K – Do you think this is necessary? I prefer not to take it and to postpone to next year but will take it if it improves the chances of making GS. Thanks!
Aug 16, 2019, 8:01 pm
#28
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 183
This year I'm doing a lot of partner flying, how do I determine my UA only PQD on a combined ticket like EWR-FRA-IST, with FRA-IST on Lufthansa?
Aug 16, 2019, 8:03 pm
#29
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.997MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,861
In this situation it up to the ticket issuer and how they handle it and nearly any answer is possible.
Aug 17, 2019, 5:40 pm
#30
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,092
the ticket will break it down per segment and this is how is usually posts as well, except for irop situations or sometimes with upgrades.