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This is an archive thread, the active thread is "Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays"
Archive thread "Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays" {Archive}
Archive thread "Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays" {Archive}
"Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays" {Archive}
#1876
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
RPU for IAD-LAX and SNA-EWR for my daughter (1K) did not clear last week and this week. My SNA-ORD is already sold out in F, so my RPU will be returned Friday.
So far this year I have not cleared any RPU.
So far this year I have not cleared any RPU.
#1877
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: ORD | LGA | 2E
Programs: UA GS 1.6MM UC | AA CK 0.7MM AC | Bonvoy Ambassador | Hyatt Globalist | Hertz PC
Posts: 1,054
My most common non-NYC routes are ORD <> LAX and ORD <> SFO. I am almost always in P/A/Z class these days and it seems many others are too as my last ~12 legs have seen 3 or fewer upgrades in total on the 737s/757s. 4-5 years ago those flights would have seen 7-10 successful CPUs. I do think the point made up-thread about a stronger economy and more aggressive discounting of first are the key issues for RPU clearance. Anecdotally, on my flight to LAX on Sunday evening the FA was doing meal orders pre-departure in status order (a rarity) and she came back to me in row 6 as the second person as a lowly 1K. Lots of paid F from non-elites and/or lower-level elites it seemed like on that flight. I do know that LAX is somewhat of a weird market in that regard, but I still found that surprising.
#1878
Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: UA 1K, National Executive Elite, Marriott Gold, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 65
I managed to clear two RPUs for PS. One was SFO-EWR 6 AM on a Sunday. Another is EWR-SFO the day before Memorial Day. Basically the two most off peak times you could possibly get.
#1879
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA MM Plat, UA 1MM, Hilton Lifetime Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold, CLEAR, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 3,621
Anecdotally, on my flight to LAX on Sunday evening the FA was doing meal orders pre-departure in status order (a rarity) and she came back to me in row 6 as the second person as a lowly 1K. Lots of paid F from non-elites and/or lower-level elites it seemed like on that flight. I do know that LAX is somewhat of a weird market in that regard, but I still found that surprising.
#1880
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 11,470
UA doesn't sub-prioritize by fare class within a cabin, so yes, GS/1K in F by instrument-supported upgrade (or CPU) get priority. (Silver/Gold/Platinum doesn't.)
#1881
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: ORD | LGA | 2E
Programs: UA GS 1.6MM UC | AA CK 0.7MM AC | Bonvoy Ambassador | Hyatt Globalist | Hertz PC
Posts: 1,054
Yeah, my surprise was more that coming back to me as the second person to take an order from, in row 6, when the first person she spoke with was in row 2 would imply that there weren't any other 1Ks in that cabin (though admittedly, that is a lot of extrapolation).
Last edited by LIH; May 25, 2018 at 5:58 am
#1882
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K,SPG Plat,
Posts: 1,091
I had two GPUs clear at booking yesterday, LAX-SYD and back. Tears of joy for 15 hours of comfort. First in a long time.
#1883
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: IAH / HOU
Programs: UA GS, DL-Plat, Hilton Gold, IHG Platinum, Hyatt Somethingist, Marriott Titanium Lifetime
Posts: 2,853
Cleared two GPUs this week.
IAH-FRA on Sunday cleared after boarding (and after a lengthy weather delay)
FRA-SFO on Friday (on LH) cleared before my arrival at FRA, but I'm not sure when since I wasn't checking the LH record while in DE.
Both on U fares, applied about two weeks prior to the first flight.
At the time of booking there was no available R space on any reasonable flight to Europe on Sunday or any reasonable flight back to the U.S. on Friday. (checked multiple airports on both ends and lots of combinations)
IAH-FRA on Sunday cleared after boarding (and after a lengthy weather delay)
FRA-SFO on Friday (on LH) cleared before my arrival at FRA, but I'm not sure when since I wasn't checking the LH record while in DE.
Both on U fares, applied about two weeks prior to the first flight.
At the time of booking there was no available R space on any reasonable flight to Europe on Sunday or any reasonable flight back to the U.S. on Friday. (checked multiple airports on both ends and lots of combinations)
#1884
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Programs: UA 1K, UA .53 MM, Marriott Gold, Nexus, GE, TSA Pre, Hertz PC
Posts: 581
Maybe not entirely UA specific, but as it relates to the use of GPU's...how many of the people on FT are flying mostly for business? And to that end, I'm curious what kinds of travel policies your companies have in place. LAX-SYD seems like it would qualify for business class in most corporations. Same goes for routes like SFO-HKG?
Or do most people use their GPU's for personal travel?
Or do most people use their GPU's for personal travel?
#1885
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: SBA
Programs: UA Gold 1MM, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hertz PC
Posts: 941
Maybe not entirely UA specific, but as it relates to the use of GPU's...how many of the people on FT are flying mostly for business? And to that end, I'm curious what kinds of travel policies your companies have in place. LAX-SYD seems like it would qualify for business class in most corporations. Same goes for routes like SFO-HKG?
Or do most people use their GPU's for personal travel?
Or do most people use their GPU's for personal travel?
My brother works for a company that allows you to book into business for any domestic coast to coast flight, so much more lenient.
#1886
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Programs: UA 1K, UA .53 MM, Marriott Gold, Nexus, GE, TSA Pre, Hertz PC
Posts: 581
Regarding corporate travel policy, our company is in 19 countries, so there's a lot of flying around. That said, you have to fly at 4 flights per year before you can qualify to fly in Business class. So fairly strict at our company.
My brother works for a company that allows you to book into business for any domestic coast to coast flight, so much more lenient.
My brother works for a company that allows you to book into business for any domestic coast to coast flight, so much more lenient.
At the last company I worked for, it was a combination of job rank and travel duration. For the lowest levels of employees, total travel had to be over 13 hours in order to be eligible for business class. The most senior employees had to be traveling for more than four hours to qualify for int'l business or domestic first.
At my current employer, I get $0.70 per round trip mile towards the purchase of business class tickets...which almost really does make GPU's useless.
#1887
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: vx diamond
Posts: 377
With that travel policy why would you fly on united? The product,people and service are horrible.
#1888
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: BA Bronze, United 1K, HH Gold, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 3,477
I only travel for work. According to the written rules, it's only supposed to be in Economy except for very specific cases (a 16 hours flight is not a specific case). Sometimes, I can request to travel in Business (I do the request if I find a very reasonable P fare) but they might reject it or even ignore my request (which in the end is the same). Sometimes, I purchase the P fare anyways and only get reimbursed for the Economy fare (I print the itinerary for Economy). With no P fares available, I do use GPUs or upgrade with miles and copay or purchase a TOD at check-in.
My wife only travels for vacation which means she travels with me on all my international long hauls. She purchases the same class of ticket I do and if I did not purchase outright a J ticket (P fare) she does not purchase a J ticket and uses the same methods to upgrade. She gets to Platinum with her travel.
I have used 5 of my 6 GPUs (some I gave to my wife) and 3 of my 4 RPUs. My wife has not used her 2 RPUs and most probably will not use them.
My wife only travels for vacation which means she travels with me on all my international long hauls. She purchases the same class of ticket I do and if I did not purchase outright a J ticket (P fare) she does not purchase a J ticket and uses the same methods to upgrade. She gets to Platinum with her travel.
I have used 5 of my 6 GPUs (some I gave to my wife) and 3 of my 4 RPUs. My wife has not used her 2 RPUs and most probably will not use them.
Last edited by StuckinITH; May 26, 2018 at 12:10 am
#1889
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bangkok, Thailand. No longer Palm Coast, FL though still exiled, again, from the Bay Area.
Programs: Only the good ones
Posts: 5,153
Fairly painless to use on LH
And they cleared right away, though the return initially said waitlist, but within minutes it cleared also. One RPU left to use, though I doubt I will find any use for it.
#1890
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,090