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Archive thread "Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays" {Archive}
Archive thread "Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays" {Archive}
"Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays" {Archive}
#1861
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I would agree with you from OGG and HNL, but (and my experience is not as extensive as yours, I'm sure), I've never been within spitting distance of an upgrade out of KOA. That could be influenced by the fact that I'm always traveling during or near school holidays (which we're getting to now, since colleges are getting out).
#1862
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#1863
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I don't know if RPUs have higher clearance rate O/D at SJC, but for me it's simply not worth the hassle unless the clearance rate was 80%.
#1864
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
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Regardless, tourism has taken a major hit on the Big Island from the eruptions, I've read some reports of 50% cancellations, so I'm a bit surprised the KOA route is still so strong.
Now, I'm often 10+ down the list out of HNL.
The economy has changed - record tourism - and they've priced First Class lower than years past in order to entice buying it outright.
#1865
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Multiple reports of low prices and open R space for inbound flights to multiple islands. Hawaii island travel is taking a big hit.
#1866
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Not that this will make nomad420 and other elites happy, but I've been upgraded on two flights from the islands. My primary flight, LIH-LAX, I was upgraded at or before T-96. My original flight, a HNL-LAX connection that I won't be taking with my wife because I have to leave a day earlier, I was upgraded at or before T-96 as well.
Neither are 752 or 772s (738 from LIH and 739 from HNL) but at least I can say I've been upgraded from Hawaii...
David
...and will be cancelling the LIH-HNL-LAX segments when I can call 1K today...
Neither are 752 or 772s (738 from LIH and 739 from HNL) but at least I can say I've been upgraded from Hawaii...
David
...and will be cancelling the LIH-HNL-LAX segments when I can call 1K today...
#1867
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I doubt it's the highest concentration of GSs (which would much more obviously be in NYC/CHI/SFO
#1868
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I think Greg99 was referring to bay area based GS (and wealthy individuals) traveling to the Kohala coast. You also see lots of high end traffic (purchased F) on SFO-LIH.
#1869
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And friends who have places in Kohala (who have been talking to their caretakers) are saying there's no material issue there from the volcano. In fact, one friend wishes that he could have taken advantage of the great AS sale, but his house is being remodeled.
#1870
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Not that this will make nomad420 and other elites happy, but I've been upgraded on two flights from the islands. My primary flight, LIH-LAX, I was upgraded at or before T-96. My original flight, a HNL-LAX connection that I won't be taking with my wife because I have to leave a day earlier, I was upgraded at or before T-96 as well.
Neither are 752 or 772s (738 from LIH and 739 from HNL) but at least I can say I've been upgraded from Hawaii...
David
...and will be cancelling the LIH-HNL-LAX segments when I can call 1K today...
Neither are 752 or 772s (738 from LIH and 739 from HNL) but at least I can say I've been upgraded from Hawaii...
David
...and will be cancelling the LIH-HNL-LAX segments when I can call 1K today...
probably should have originally posted to a different thread - both upgrades were/are CPUs....no instruments applied...
David
#1871
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Just booked SFO-KOA 6/16 and perhaps people are hoping for a change in the Kilauea situation but no R space (of course), no F available, and even the available E+ seats were the least desirable. I found the situation even worse on the return (6/23). Of course RPU'ed it at booking but not optimistic.
#1872
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Looking into July for SFO<->OGG I see no R space but almost every seat is available for assignment in the F cabin. Do these seats open for RPU/GPU prior to the CPU window, or maybe UA just slashes the price of F as the dates draw closer?
#1873
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Upgrade chances are very slim at best even with a RPU - July is smack in the middle of high season.
#1874
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They will NEVER show R space on that route in July.
Totally agree SFO into OGG even with an RPU upgrades are very rare, maybe midweek will clear but still tough. They will try to sell F until the door closes!
#1875
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Somewhat OT, but I would dissent from the opinion on rental cars. While admittedly it can take 10-15m to ride the train between the SFO terminals and rental car building, the setup is no worse than the shuttle bus systems that service remote rental car facilities at other airports like DEN, PHX, DFW, etc. Wish they all could be like SNA, but high traffic airports simply lack the space.
I don't know if RPUs have higher clearance rate O/D at SJC, but for me it's simply not worth the hassle unless the clearance rate was 80%.
I don't know if RPUs have higher clearance rate O/D at SJC, but for me it's simply not worth the hassle unless the clearance rate was 80%.
I think with your status that you would clear around 80% at SJC. I just completed another trip yesterday, and my RPU cleared somewhere around 72 hours out, making me 5 for 5 on transcons to/from SJC in just the last 4 months.
Last edited by zombietooth; May 24, 2018 at 2:08 pm