Oct 22, 2018, 3:44 pm
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GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
For posing formal notifications (but no discussion), use this thread Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY)
2019 GS Timeline
First requal notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2018First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread and for 2018, see the 2018 thread
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.
Hello:
To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.
Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks
LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit
View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.
Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks
LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit
View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions
Dec 2, 2018, 12:08 am
#316
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 27
my status down for maintenance
looks like the 2019 cycle is starting
Dec 2, 2018, 7:24 am
#318
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Bucks County
Programs: UAL GS & Million Miler; Delta Lifetime Gold; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Platinum; Legion Etrangere
Posts: 1,609
Dec 2, 2018, 7:36 am
#319
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: UA MileagePlus 2MM
Posts: 1,567
As the pressure builds for those of us on the line, I think it important to not lose hope if you're not in the first batch.
Experience tells us that the first round of invites go out the first week of December and are generally for this members who are re-qualifying for GS. But there are always exceptions. The only thing we think we are certain of is that $50k UA metal PQD should get you in if you didn't spend $0k UA PQD the year before.
I have gotten the invitation in January for requalifying with well over $50k UA spend.
Everyone wants the invite and there are cases where pax over the the line we have drawn in the sand don't get in. I have to put my spread sheet together because I am definitely feeling my chances are 50/50. And you can repeal the decision if you miss the second batch of invites in January. So it's important, I would think, that asking for a re-evaluation those who calmly stand with hard cold facts at hand would get a fair hearing.
The "several years running GS's who sometimes miss the 50K UA PQD spend" was quoted by a poster of rather high credibility right from the horses mouth. CPM has never been acknowledged by UA to matter, to the best of my knowledge. Rightly or wrongly.
Last year or the year before, on the spreadsheet filled out by those successful, there was I believe someone who posted they made it with 29K UA PQD - no way to verify if that a travel influencer or what. And several people in the high 30 K PQD spend as well.
Good luck to all!!
Adam
Experience tells us that the first round of invites go out the first week of December and are generally for this members who are re-qualifying for GS. But there are always exceptions. The only thing we think we are certain of is that $50k UA metal PQD should get you in if you didn't spend $0k UA PQD the year before.
I have gotten the invitation in January for requalifying with well over $50k UA spend.
Everyone wants the invite and there are cases where pax over the the line we have drawn in the sand don't get in. I have to put my spread sheet together because I am definitely feeling my chances are 50/50. And you can repeal the decision if you miss the second batch of invites in January. So it's important, I would think, that asking for a re-evaluation those who calmly stand with hard cold facts at hand would get a fair hearing.
The "several years running GS's who sometimes miss the 50K UA PQD spend" was quoted by a poster of rather high credibility right from the horses mouth. CPM has never been acknowledged by UA to matter, to the best of my knowledge. Rightly or wrongly.
Last year or the year before, on the spreadsheet filled out by those successful, there was I believe someone who posted they made it with 29K UA PQD - no way to verify if that a travel influencer or what. And several people in the high 30 K PQD spend as well.
Good luck to all!!
Adam
Dec 2, 2018, 8:27 am
#320
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 361
First round usually happen around 12/8 but given this year is a saturday i am thinking maybe 12/7
I am currently at $177,000 PQD 980,000 PQM and over 660 PQS!
I am currently at $177,000 PQD 980,000 PQM and over 660 PQS!
Dec 2, 2018, 8:30 am
#321
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Bucks County
Programs: UAL GS & Million Miler; Delta Lifetime Gold; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Platinum; Legion Etrangere
Posts: 1,609
Dec 2, 2018, 8:33 am
#322
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 361
it has been a fairly busy year i should be crossing the 1 million PQM soon!
Dec 2, 2018, 11:34 am
#325
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: UA*Lifetime GS, Hyatt* Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 12,337
Predicting the timing of GS requalifying notice can also give one heartburns. Since making my first GS over a decade ago and have requalified every year subsequently, the timings of notifications have been quite inconsistent.
I remember I had well over six-figure spent one year and I did not get confirmation until the end of second week of January. There is another year I had barely passed beyond the $45K mark (thanks to bulk business fare fiasco) and got the good news in the first batch of notification in December.
Now I am just glad that stress is out of the window for good!
I remember I had well over six-figure spent one year and I did not get confirmation until the end of second week of January. There is another year I had barely passed beyond the $45K mark (thanks to bulk business fare fiasco) and got the good news in the first batch of notification in December.
Now I am just glad that stress is out of the window for good!
Dec 2, 2018, 12:32 pm
#326
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: United Global Services
Posts: 19
PQM: 232,170
PQD: $64,988
PQS: 55.5
ORD based. Hoping this will qualify me for GS this year. No other planned trips in December.
PQD: $64,988
PQS: 55.5
ORD based. Hoping this will qualify me for GS this year. No other planned trips in December.
Dec 2, 2018, 3:14 pm
#327
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: UA GS ,QF Plat
Posts: 686
Predicting the timing of GS requalifying notice can also give one heartburns. Since making my first GS over a decade ago and have requalified every year subsequently, the timings of notifications have been quite inconsistent.
I remember I had well over six-figure spent one year and I did not get confirmation until the end of second week of January. There is another year I had barely passed beyond the $45K mark (thanks to bulk business fare fiasco) and got the good news in the first batch of notification in December.
Now I am just glad that stress is out of the window for good!
I remember I had well over six-figure spent one year and I did not get confirmation until the end of second week of January. There is another year I had barely passed beyond the $45K mark (thanks to bulk business fare fiasco) and got the good news in the first batch of notification in December.
Now I am just glad that stress is out of the window for good!
The other thing that I failed to mention in my "heartburn" post was my CPM having gone back and looked at it across 14 years has ranged fro 18-37 cpm
Dec 2, 2018, 4:08 pm
#328
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Somewhere in EWR
Programs: UA GS, HH Diamond
Posts: 858
After finishing last year with 272 PQM, 187 PQS, 51,164 PQD and133K BIS and not getting in, I will finish this year with 243K PQM, 167PQS, 50,658 PQD and 121K BIS.
Dec 2, 2018, 5:43 pm
#329
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: UGS, AA CK
Posts: 212
I am at $70k pqd and 127k pqm. Won't take many more flights this year. Not too worried but spend is down because they did away with GF and have an inferior business class product so I have been flying AA and BA more...
Dec 2, 2018, 6:33 pm
#330
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: DYKWIA, But I'm a "Diamond Guest" UA 1K/2MM
Posts: 2,258
So you didn't get in with 38.4 "CPM" So much for the CPM myth and lore.
Last edited by porciuscato; Dec 2, 2018 at 6:48 pm