Oct 22, 2018, 3:44 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
For posing formal notifications (but no discussion), use this thread Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY)
2019 GS Timeline
First requal notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2018First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread and for 2018, see the 2018 thread
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.
Hello:
To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.
Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks
LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit
View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.
Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks
LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit
View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions
Nov 24, 2018, 5:19 am
#271
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Rowley, MA / Edgartown, MA / Christiansted, St. Croix (USVI)
Programs: UA LT GS/4.96MM, Marriott LT Titanium, IHG Platinum, Global Entry, TSA Pre✓, Korea SeS, APEC
Posts: 579
Nov 24, 2018, 2:52 pm
#272
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
Thanks for your reply, jjmoore.
I had to make a change to one of my trips, and as a result I believe I'll finish 2018 just over the United $50k threshold you mention. My new projected numbers are:
PQM: 286,102
PQD: $50,819
PQD (United metal): $50,335
BIS: 167,185
PQS: 99
CPM: 0.30
Does being *just* over the $50K PQD mark for SFO make a big difference then? What do you think y chances look like with these numbers?
I had to make a change to one of my trips, and as a result I believe I'll finish 2018 just over the United $50k threshold you mention. My new projected numbers are:
PQM: 286,102
PQD: $50,819
PQD (United metal): $50,335
BIS: 167,185
PQS: 99
CPM: 0.30
Does being *just* over the $50K PQD mark for SFO make a big difference then? What do you think y chances look like with these numbers?
I am in your shoes... $51k PQD at year's end... was Denver based but now Orlando for 3 months. I would think we either both qualify or both miss, though I'm not betting on the latter.
Nov 24, 2018, 3:41 pm
#273
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,856
Global Services 2018 Notifications (ONLY)
Global Services 2017 Notifications (ONLY)
Vaguely remembering there were a few datapoints but you also have to be skeptical of the data
Was it all UA?
Was it PQDs or total cost?
Was it real, this is the internet.
Nov 25, 2018, 7:49 am
#274
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: UA GS, Amex Centurion, UA 1MM
Posts: 557
so funny. My next flight too and my wife is SO excited.
Nov 25, 2018, 9:27 am
#275
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 575
How much does prior year trend matter? I always feel like I'm on the fence. Will end $42k this year slight up from last year and the year before. I've made it the last 2 years. In the system, I'm SNA based. But my flights have originated from PEK, SFO, SJC, SNA, PDX and elsewhere. Rarely originate from SNA. Also, my yield this year is significantly lower than past years. I think around 10c/m versus prior years closer to 20c.
Nov 25, 2018, 11:12 am
#276
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,165
How much does prior year trend matter? I always feel like I'm on the fence. Will end $42k this year slight up from last year and the year before. I've made it the last 2 years. In the system, I'm SNA based. But my flights have originated from PEK, SFO, SJC, SNA, PDX and elsewhere. Rarely originate from SNA. Also, my yield this year is significantly lower than past years. I think around 10c/m versus prior years closer to 20c.
For reference the latest financial reporting puts United's PRASM (Passenger revenue per available seat mile) at $0.1373 and the yield per revenue passenger mile at $0.1596 -- I would assume that being below those targets would be a more-or-less disqualifying factor since GS is intended for high yield/revenue passengers.
Nov 25, 2018, 12:20 pm
#277
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
My gut says your CPBisM is far too low, especially without substantial ($>60k spend) and likely doesn't meet UA's stated requirement/expectation of primarily full-fare and/or premium cabin travel.
For reference the latest financial reporting puts United's PRASM (Passenger revenue per available seat mile) at $0.1373 and the yield per revenue passenger mile at $0.1596 -- I would assume that being below those targets would be a more-or-less disqualifying factor since GS is intended for high yield/revenue passengers.
For reference the latest financial reporting puts United's PRASM (Passenger revenue per available seat mile) at $0.1373 and the yield per revenue passenger mile at $0.1596 -- I would assume that being below those targets would be a more-or-less disqualifying factor since GS is intended for high yield/revenue passengers.
Nov 25, 2018, 12:33 pm
#278
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Somewhere in EWR
Programs: UA GS, HH Diamond
Posts: 858
Nov 25, 2018, 4:49 pm
#279
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: DYKWIA, But I'm a "Diamond Guest" UA 1K/2MM
Posts: 2,258
That should probably be a clue that despite its popularity on this forum, "CPM" is not relevant. Look at the spreadsheets and you will find plenty of people with "CPM" in the $.20 to $.30 range and PQD in 40Ks (or even 30Ks) who did make GS. For my own part, I made it one year on $0.20 "CPM" and only $39K PQD.
Nov 25, 2018, 7:24 pm
#280
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Doylestown, PA, USA
Programs: UA Platinum Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 549
What about last December?
I see that qualifying will be announced Dec 8th?
i will end up at $52000PQD, 200k PQM about 60PQS out of Newark/Philly
I looked back I did have another $5300, 20kPQM in December last year. Don’t know if this is a Dec1-Dec1 evaluation if Jan1- Dec1 Evaluation.
Anyway. I will wait and see
last 2 years were $30k in 2016, $40k 2017
ytjk
i will end up at $52000PQD, 200k PQM about 60PQS out of Newark/Philly
I looked back I did have another $5300, 20kPQM in December last year. Don’t know if this is a Dec1-Dec1 evaluation if Jan1- Dec1 Evaluation.
Anyway. I will wait and see
last 2 years were $30k in 2016, $40k 2017
ytjk
Nov 25, 2018, 8:14 pm
#281
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BOS
Programs: UA 1K (2MM); AA LT Gold (1.9 MM); SQ; WN; DL; "Bonvoy Ambassador""
Posts: 398
[QUOTE . ...so she can be raptured to GS.[/QUOTE]
@LordHamster--outstanding phraseology!! I hope your wife enjoys it: somehow my wife doesn't quite resent my travel so much when UA gives her some GS love, especially without me by her side.
@LordHamster--outstanding phraseology!! I hope your wife enjoys it: somehow my wife doesn't quite resent my travel so much when UA gives her some GS love, especially without me by her side.
Nov 26, 2018, 6:59 am
#282
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Bucks County
Programs: UAL GS & Million Miler; Delta Lifetime Gold; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Platinum; Legion Etrangere
Posts: 1,609
Good to see another Doylestowner on this site!
Nov 26, 2018, 8:58 am
#283
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Northern California
Programs: I want to be free! Free!
Posts: 3,455
I see that qualifying will be announced Dec 8th?
i will end up at $52000PQD, 200k PQM about 60PQS out of Newark/Philly
I looked back I did have another $5300, 20kPQM in December last year. Don’t know if this is a Dec1-Dec1 evaluation if Jan1- Dec1 Evaluation.
Anyway. I will wait and see
last 2 years were $30k in 2016, $40k 2017
ytjk
i will end up at $52000PQD, 200k PQM about 60PQS out of Newark/Philly
I looked back I did have another $5300, 20kPQM in December last year. Don’t know if this is a Dec1-Dec1 evaluation if Jan1- Dec1 Evaluation.
Anyway. I will wait and see
last 2 years were $30k in 2016, $40k 2017
ytjk
Nov 26, 2018, 9:01 am
#284
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Doylestown, PA, USA
Programs: UA Platinum Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 549
OK thanks. Maybe I'll have a little more this Dec to put me in the $55k range. But I will have to wait to Jan as I am not a re-qual.
Nov 26, 2018, 9:02 am
#285
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Doylestown, PA, USA
Programs: UA Platinum Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 549