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higher_flyer Mar 23, 2016 5:31 pm

Considering they can't even spell Brussels correctly in their big, red homepage alert, there's little hope lol.

narvik Mar 23, 2016 5:35 pm

Someone in IT copied and pasted it from a Dutch website?

findark Mar 23, 2016 6:09 pm


Originally Posted by BH62 (Post 26377592)
Isn't this akin to hidden city? Is it "legally" bookable or would it automatically cxl if one never set foot at SEL per se?

Not really. The SEA/SEL fare specifically permits the stopover; it would be HCT if you booked a one-way and threw away the KIX-ICN segment (which doesn't really make sense in this context). It's not true that you "never set foot in" ICN; you will land there and later depart. As this construction makes it your ticketed destination, you could even stay a while if you wanted.

PHX87CM1 SEA to SEL:

Code:

Category 8: Stopover restrictions

  2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
      DIRECTION AT USD 100.00 EACH
      NONE IN GUAM
      PERMITTED IN AREA 3.
    CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.


Category 12: Surcharges

  A SURCHARGE OF USD 400.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
  THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL WHEN TRAVEL IS TO/FROM/VIA
  JAPAN. APPLIES PER ADULT. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
    PROVIDED TRAVEL IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
      ANY OZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY OZ
      ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY OZ
      ANY 7C FLIGHT OPERATED BY 7C
      ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 7C.

A total of 500.00 USD of surcharges for stopping over in Japan, but that pales in comparison to the fare difference. In other news, really good business fares to Seoul. Also, inventory permitting, better deals may be had via YVR on AC.

mduell Mar 23, 2016 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by BH62 (Post 26377018)
Looking at a RT SEA-KIX in late June using the "lowest business fare" panel on the far right of the "economy" screen. So picked an outbound SEA-SFO-KIX on UA at approx $3700, then go to return fares. Most of them are similar amounts, but part-way down the page, for flights involving a leg on Asiana, e.g. KIX-ICN-SFO-SEA, the fare is shown as $0. OK, just for fun, select that & get an all-in fare somewhere in the $4000 range. BTW, an all-UA RT prices to approx $7k. Can someone explain this ... does it get an all-inclusive RT fare or a magic glitch in the software. If so, maybe I should buy a Lotto ticket.

This is one of the many confusing consequences of UA's poor implementation of trying to display per segment pricing instead of the minimum total trip price at each stage of the flight search.

I recommend one of the better flight search site, like Google Flights or ITA Software or Hipmunk.


Originally Posted by BH62 (Post 26377592)
Isn't this akin to hidden city? Is it "legally" bookable or would it automatically cxl if one never set foot at SEL per se?

No, you can book it, make the ICN/KIX connections, and be fine.

euslaner Mar 23, 2016 6:25 pm

I am using Chrome, so I decide to see if there is a problem with my password. I enter my MP number and name. It can't find me.

We could not process your request. Please see the message below and make revisions.
The traveler information you entered does not match our records. Please revise the traveler’s name and/or the frequent flyer program account number.

They are telling me that I don't know my name. I could imagine that I might forget my MP number (though this is not the case, unless my 1K card is wrong). But I do remember my name even if the bomb doesn't.

RockyBalboa Mar 23, 2016 6:32 pm

I was unable to change my flight on Sunday night. I'd tinkered with the idea of upping my departure from Tuesday to Monday but I couldn't do it on the regular site, mobile site or the app.

I would click on "change my flight" and it would give me an error and tell me to call in.

narvik Mar 23, 2016 6:45 pm

I should hold off booking anything for the next few months. Luckily I am already set until end of June (unless there's an unexpected trip).

Looked at a possible one-way EWR-DEL on April 9.
On United.com the cheapest is EWR-DEL with one stop in HKG at $2143 (Q + Y). Direct EWR-DEL is $3599 (B). NOTHING is showing up in low buckets AT ALL anymore.
Google flights finds the cheapest United flight as: LGA-ORD-EWR-DEL in (T + W and taking 29 hours) for $902 and wants to book it on united.com???

WHAT IS GOING ON????

No GPU or RPU searches possible now.

narvik Mar 23, 2016 6:53 pm


Originally Posted by higher_flyer (Post 26377629)
Considering they can't even spell Brussels ....


Now corrected.

televisor Mar 23, 2016 6:53 pm

I booked an LX (intra-europe) flight today, it took an hour to ticket. I then discovered that even booking via UA I'm getting the "light" fares, decided to cancel (2-3 hours after booking). The website errored out after the screen where you choose between refund or flight credit (I selected refund).

Now I don't know what's happening with my payment. The flight initially appeared under cancelled itineraries, and now appears under "Inactive" itineraries. I see the following banner, but selecting "Change flights" also errors out. There's still a hold on my payment card, so no idea what's going on.

"Your itinerary cannot be retrieved because it has been cancelled. You may use the remaining value of your ticket toward a new flight by selecting the "Change Flight" link below. A change fee may apply.

// Edit: turns out my "inactive" itinerary has a cancel link, which lets me choose between refund and credit again, this errors out again. I guess that means the refund didn't work. I might try calling tomorrow, but worst case I'll have to chargeback...

// Edit: 3 tries later, the cancellation worked? Except now it claims it's giving me credit instead of refunding.

Kacee Mar 23, 2016 6:56 pm


Originally Posted by televisor (Post 26377942)
I booked an LX (intra-europe) flight today, it took an hour to ticket. I then discovered that even booking via UA I'm getting the "light" fares, decided to cancel (2-3 hours after booking). The website errored out after the screen where you choose between refund or flight credit (I selected refund).

Now I don't know what's happening with my payment. The flight initially appeared under cancelled itineraries, and now appears under "Inactive" itineraries. I see the following banner, but selecting "Change flights" also errors out. There's still a hold on my payment card, so no idea what's going on.

This has happened with my last two refund attempts.

The reservation is cancelled, but you have to call to get a refund. The agent may tell you the refund has been properly requested, but it has not. You will never get your money back without agent intervention.

narvik Mar 23, 2016 7:11 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 26359458)
That's normal. International one-ways are typically only available at full fare.


Sorry, I normally agree with you, but this is not true in my experience on the international routes that I have been flying. I normally see low buckets (T, S, W, Q) on UA even on direct one-way flights.

Of course it will be dependent on availability.

But I'd not use the phrase "That is normal." ESPECIALLY describing anything related to united.com as of late! :)

Kacee Mar 23, 2016 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 26378002)
But I'd not use the phrase "That is normal." ESPECIALLY describing anything related to united.com as of late! :)

On this we can fully and unconditionally agree :)

findark Mar 23, 2016 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 26377902)
I should hold off booking anything for the next few months. Luckily I am already set until end of June (unless there's an unexpected trip).

Looked at a possible one-way EWR-DEL on April 9.
On United.com the cheapest is EWR-DEL with one stop in HKG at $2143 (Q + Y). Direct EWR-DEL is $3599 (B). NOTHING is showing up in low buckets AT ALL anymore.
Google flights finds the cheapest United flight as: LGA-ORD-EWR-DEL in (T + W and taking 29 hours) for $902 and wants to book it on united.com???

WHAT IS GOING ON????

No GPU or RPU searches possible now.

Not unusual at all for international one way fares to be sky-high. There is no fare published EWR to DEL which is lower than B. It's silly that the one way fare is more than four times the total cost of the cheapest round trip ticket, but there you have it.

LGA-ORD-EWR-DEL is a really clever way to backtrack without officially backtracking, and fares as NYC to CHI // CHI to DEL.

If K space were open it would almost be cheaper than any OW to book an EWR-DEL RT and throw away the return :D

mduell Mar 23, 2016 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by boston11 (Post 26348112)
Is it just me, or is there something funny going on with buying LX-operated tickets through the website? I've been trying for the last day to purchase a ticket for LHR-ZRH-NRT. I can get to the final purchase page, but after hitting 'Purchase', I get

***
We’re sorry, but united.com was unable to complete your request. Please try later or contact united.com Support in the U.S. and Canada at 1-800-396-1751; the U.K. at 0800 028 5003; elsewhere use the local phone number.

Reference your confirmation number:
***

and there is no confirmation number. Yesterday when I tried to call in the purchase, I was quoted a Q fare that was 3 times the cost of the ticket online. Today when I called in, I was told that united.com can only sell me a ticket operated by UA or LH ?!

I had a number of issues booking LX flights in December for January travel. Errors, randomly dropped segments, etc. Eventually I got what I wanted for the fare I wanted (like other travel search engines said I could do), but they made an ordeal out of it.


Originally Posted by LHR Wannabee (Post 26359370)
There also seems to be a discrepancy in pricing trips round-trip and multi-city and one-way. For multi-city, shouldn't the segments price out the same as one-way? (I am also getting the full fare option only for the multi city searches too and one time got only full fare economy options and discount first on another where the lowest Economy from EWR-FLL was mid $600 and First was mid $300.)

Has anyone else experienced this today or lately? It is driving me crazy since I want to book a trip and don't have confidence in what I am seeing.

Many of the cheap oneway or half RT fares have combinability restrictions. You may be able to find one way fares that you can book separately, but not with 3-4-5 of them on the same ticket.


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 26359725)
Yes by a factor of as much as 10 or 20x if you're using the calendar to search for fares and imposing restrictions such as limited number of stops.

Yea, I'm quite pleased with the speed Google has brought to a classically slow search problem. In the early days they suffered from accuracy/optimality issues, but now they match ITA quite well at 10x the speed.


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 26359725)
From my perspective, the only reasons to use united.com are (i) you need to search for a specific fare class, or (ii) you need to see fare bucket availability. And of course the second is currently irrelevant since it's not being displayed.

ITA Software handles specific fare classes, without the constant errors of UA.sux.


Originally Posted by krazykanuck (Post 26360429)
It's also showing me this. Yum... I'm hungry for a meal of "1". Hope only one person is hungry :D

The meals thing is a common glitch, sometimes 1, sometimes 6.


Originally Posted by televisor (Post 26377942)
I booked an LX (intra-europe) flight today, it took an hour to ticket. I then discovered that even booking via UA I'm getting the "light" fares

That's not unusual, light vs flexi vs whatever they call it is a function of fare class AFAIK. If you book deep discount, it's a light fare.


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 26378002)
Sorry, I normally agree with you, but this is not true in my experience on the international routes that I have been flying. I normally see low buckets (T, S, W, Q) on UA even on direct one-way flights.

What routes? That's atypical here in Houston.

narvik Mar 23, 2016 7:43 pm


Originally Posted by mduell (Post 26378083)
What routes? That's atypical here in Houston.

EWR-PEK (my most flown route. It gets boring! :))

Added: Well, I was trying to book a EWR-DEL one way and can confirm the high price OW, so I guess you and Kacee are indeed correct. PEK seems the [only?] exception. Shrugs!


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