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Old Dec 16, 2015, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by UA Insider
Hi everyone,

Starting January 1, 2016, you’ll earn more Premier qualifying miles (PQMs) for full-fare and discounted First or Business – up to double the current rate. The higher PQM rates go into effect for flights starting January 1, 2016 regardless of booking date.

New 2016 PQM Earning for United and United Express:

Full-fare First or Business (F, J): 300% (Currently 150%)
Discounted First or Business (A, C, D, Z, P): 200% (Currently 150%)
Full-fare Economy (Y, B): 150% (No Change)
Discounted Economy (M, E, U, H, Q, V, W, S, T, L, K, G, N): 100% (No Change)

Please check back shortly for full details regarding this change at mileageplusupdates.com. In addition to United and United Express operated flights, PQM earnings for select Star Alliance partners are also increasing.

Thank you,

-UA Insider
Originally Posted by UA Insider
This change does not impact PQS.

UA Insider
Originally Posted by UA Insider
Hi everyone. For clarification, there are no changes to the PQD credit card waiver.

-UA Insider
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Richym99
Hard to believe some of the negativity so far to what should be seen as positive step. It's as if nothing that UA does, good or bad will be good enough for some on this board.
You say that as if it is impossible for this to be a bad thing for anybody. There's been many people posting concise reasons why there may be negative effects to them because of this (unintended and otherwise).
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by thebakaronis
So far I've found that only LH and LX are participating in the increased PQM program. Which is a bummer since AI and Air China aren't in it; they usually have cheaper Business Class fares. Am I missing any other partner?
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 4:35 pm
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This further dilutes 1K benefits from my perspective. I have no problem meeting the PQD requirement as-is, and frequently purchase first/biz. Unless they drastically raise the PQD threshold, this is a negative change.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 4:41 pm
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One potential unintended consequence of this announcement is that people will fly UA less because it will take them less flights to hit status levels. This will add more PQMs for me and makes it more likely I will fly RT CPH-JFK on DL because I won't need the 8k PQM from that flight and would rather pay $1300 for RT in paid J.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
One potential unintended consequence of this announcement is that people will fly UA less because it will take them less flights to hit status levels. This will add more PQMs for me and makes it more likely I will fly RT CPH-JFK on DL because I won't need the 8k PQM from that flight and would rather pay $1300 for RT in paid J.
...but you won't get the chance for additional GPUs or RPUs that will be harder to use when everyone's a 1K
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by thebakaronis
So far I've found that only LH and LX are participating in the increased PQM program. Which is a bummer since AI and Air China aren't in it; they usually have cheaper Business Class fares. Am I missing any other partner?
Originally Posted by rankourabu
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And OS.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 5:02 pm
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Meaningless move, as you will NOT earn PQD flying *A carrier on *A carrier stock.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by StringerBellBivDeVoe
You say that as if it is impossible for this to be a bad thing for anybody. There's been many people posting concise reasons why there may be negative effects to them because of this (unintended and otherwise).
I don't doubt that some may be negatively impacted by this personally, but lets just acknowledge first and foremost that contrary to the general level of predictions across this board that UA were going to continue to remove benefits for all frequent flyers, they have actually given us something extra. I cannot recall on single prediction from anyone that PQM earnings would be increased in any way in 2016, so anything that they give should be accepted as a bonus, not slated.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 5:11 pm
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This goes into the "meh" category for myself as well. I'm mostly on partners intra-Asia or Asia-EMEA, so none of my usual flights get the PQM bump (though not expected, looks like its just the usual suspects anyway from a quick glance).
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by NH_Clark
I like this.. especially if no change to MP qualifications for CY16. ^
+1 ^ ^ ^

This works very well for business travelers who fly in paid C, though clearly it is intended as another carrot to steer us to UA-metal where both EQM and RDM will be higher.

Clearly some *A partners are favored more than others, to wit:

Compare:

LH = 200% for C/F
ANA = 150-300% for C/F

With:

SQ = 100-125% for C
TK = 100-125% for C

I am still looking for the bad news which usually accompanies announcement of enhancements.... so far so good

Originally Posted by StringerBellBivDeVoe
Yep. I think the goal is to effectively kill CPUs and GPU/RPUs by making them impossible to get/use. There will be only one way into F/J now - buy it.
With all due respect that's absurd. Nobody is going to pay hundreds or thousands to "buy up" just for a few EQMs. Anybody who truly values F is already paying for it - in many cases the price differential is not that significant (i.e. I'm only paying $200 for Y->F for 6 hours of flying from Mexico to USA - almost the same price as those 500mi upgrades used to cost).

Rather, the objective here is to incentivize customers to fly on UA's inferior international C/F product instead of *A like SQ etc. without spending millions to upgrade the product. And it may very well work for those at the margins - I would forego SQ if it meant I could achieve 1K rather than 1P.

Originally Posted by Plane-is-home
I don't mind it, but be honest, this is the first step to a purely spent based system for status. I rarely agree with UA but I believe that would be a good thing.
Ding, ding, ding! Correct answer. As predicted elsewhere, it is only a matter of time before status is 100% based on $$$ instead of miles. And then it's game over for the mileage runners and the credit card churners.

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Old Dec 16, 2015, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by MrOCTeckels
Take a look at the LH earning tables... the PQM rates are increasing there too. Most importantly for me, LH P fares now earn 200%, instead of 100%.
Excellent.
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by mrswirl
I suppose this change encourages the type of buying behavior UA really wants to see - people buying up to F and other higher fare classes instead of el-cheapo economy.

I don't see myself benefitting from this anytime soon as my company's expense policy explicitly denies any class other than lowest fare economy - even for long haul international. I know there are many other companies with this same requirement.

This will mostly benefit the upper-crust and executive manager levels flying on OPM who are allowed to buy higher fares or wealthy leisure travelers willing to shell out the extra bucks.
+1, sadly I fall into the same group I have a lot of long-haul work travel scheduled this year (so far already have booked 2 round-trip TATLs in Jan, and have a likely TPAC in Feb - all in Y) and this pretty much kills any enthusiasm I had for possibly making 1K this year or for that matter even trying to stay loyal to UA. What's the point if they're just giving away status to the folks who don't need it in the first place?

That being said, I can see the rationale, will definitely encourage more folks to pay their way into F/J.

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Old Dec 16, 2015, 5:42 pm
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Is million miler status earned based on distance flown? or the PQM?
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by schnitzer
Is million miler status earned based on distance flown? or the PQM?
MM uses BIS (with 500 mile min for elites)
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Old Dec 16, 2015, 5:43 pm
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so happy about this.
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