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Old Nov 1, 2013, 4:08 am
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New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)

Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html

Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
  • F awards on partners went up 40-80%
  • J awards on partners went up 20-40%
  • F and J awards on UA metal (or mixed carriers where UA metal is in premium cabin followed by partner segment in lower class) as well some Y awards increased by 5-20% (US to Europe in F up 19%, US to Middle East in F up 20% for example)

See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
US ✈ Southern South America: +10,000 J, +5,000 F

US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F

US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F

US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F

US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F

US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F

US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F

US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F

US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F

US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F

RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F

Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
  1. Complimentary Premier Upgrades and instant upgrades are not applicable
  2. Regional Premier Upgrades (for any fare class) and Global Premier Upgrades (for flights booked in fare class Z, P, S, T, L, K, G or N) can no longer be requested on or after November 1, 2013
  3. There is no co-pay exemption for MileagePlus Upgrade Awards requested on or after November 1, 2013
  4. The above changes do not apply to Copa-operated flights.


Questions and Answers

Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Originally Posted by UA Insider
Our existing change process will apply. Changes to awards that require a change in date do not result in a change to the award price. Any other change will require an add/collect in miles and fees for changes or cancellations will still apply as per our existing policies.
Additional details on changing tickets booked prior to 2/3/14 per UA Insider:
Originally Posted by UA Insider
Changes that will not trigger a re-price for itineraries ticketed before February 3, 2014 include:
  • Date/time (cabin, region, and award type can't change)
  • Carrier on one or more segments (cabin, region, and award type can’t change)
  • Origin/Destination within the same regions (carrier and cabin can’t change)
Full details are in post #2588 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22283437-post2588.html

Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Originally Posted by UA Insider
The new award pricing takes effect for bookings made on or after Feb 3, 2014 for all future travel dates. If you purchased a ticket prior to then for travel on March 15, and no changes are made to the itinerary, the current pricing will apply.
Q: How will award pricing apply to mixed-carrier Saver Awards?
Originally Posted by UA Insider
Updated handling for mixed UA-Partner United/partner award itineraries: As we shared with the initial announcement, the Star Alliance/Partner partner award pricing will apply to Business or First awards for itineraries that include at least one flight segment operated by a MileagePlus partner carrier in Business or First.

However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
  • For example: IAD-FRA in United BusinessFirst connecting to FRA-FCO in Lufthansa Business, will be priced at the United mileage award amount.
  • Note that this exception will not apply to a few specific regions and routings, such as intra-Africa connecting segments and certain fifth-freedom routes (e.g. BKK-KUL operated by Lufthansa)
(reverted to J.Edward's rev)
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by lax2010
Is the booking engine back online? Too bad I have only a few hundreds miles left :-) :-) :-)
Doesn't appear to be yet at 11:20 AM ET. Finally, LH released a seat I wanted but a UA agent didn't see any availability around 10:00 AM. then, I am patiently waiting for the web to work with me.
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 9:22 am
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I can still see some space available for today at old prices... i.e. LH F out of IAD. Not sure if it's bookable, but someone may get lucky. Looking at the calendar screen on results page when I search for space today, everything else totally whited out
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 9:25 am
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer
Did you receive a ticket number e-mail?
Yes-received an e-ticket and proper number of "old" miles were deducted from my account.
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 9:30 am
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I was not aware of all the commotion going on and just went to change my award seat 10 min ago.
Site displayed the available seats, but they did not let me complete the transaction. Appears there is still a website technical error. In the end, I called the reservation desk and they were able to change/modify/edit my itinenary.

Just reporting.
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 9:49 am
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Were flights on United and Hawaiian (on one itinerary, say EWR-HNL first leg on United, and HNL-LIH on 2nd leg, but on same day and same itinerary) supposed to be 28.5K each way instead of 22.5K each way? I thought as long as it was without a stopover, it was still supposed to be 22.5k. Guess not?
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 10:02 am
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Trying to pull up TATL award flights, can't get anything to display, keep getting message "no flights available"
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by yoshapman
Were flights on United and Hawaiian (on one itinerary, say EWR-HNL first leg on United, and HNL-LIH on 2nd leg, but on same day and same itinerary) supposed to be 28.5K each way instead of 22.5K each way? I thought as long as it was without a stopover, it was still supposed to be 22.5k. Guess not?
Intra-island is supposed to be an add-on.
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by RS250Racer
Not sure, I am in the same boat...guess we will find out.
Wish I would have gambled with you guys. Instead I forked out an extra $120 in fees to secure Thai F through FRA with a stopover in CDG on the way back. Would have preferred a stopover at NRT.

Best of luck!
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 10:31 am
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I cannot find any TATL award availability at the moment except for today at the old rates. Maybe this is the change that they implementing and the website update is complete.
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by yoshapman
Were flights on United and Hawaiian (on one itinerary, say EWR-HNL first leg on United, and HNL-LIH on 2nd leg, but on same day and same itinerary) supposed to be 28.5K each way instead of 22.5K each way? I thought as long as it was without a stopover, it was still supposed to be 22.5k. Guess not?
Any inter-island travel on HA whether it's the only carrier or part of a mixed itinerary triggers 5,000 extra miles or 6,000 according to the new chart.

So, if you can get an itinerary on United to your final destination in Hawaii (they serve a few airports), you'd be saving 5,000/6,000 miles.
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by OrlandoFlyer
I cannot find any TATL award availability at the moment except for today at the old rates. Maybe this is the change that they implementing and the website update is complete.
This morning I booked three business class award tickets Europe-West Coast for travel this summer at the old rates. Feeling very grateful.
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by JetAway
Yes-received an e-ticket and proper number of "old" miles were deducted from my account.
If UA will retroactively recredit miles for PNR that was booked after 2/1 and was charged the old higher mileage, they will probably go back to subtract more miles for PNR that was booked after midnight 2/3 with the old lower mileage from the old chart. UA has been famous in removing miles from MP member account since after the merger :-).
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by lax2010
If UA will retroactively recredit miles for PNR that was booked after 2/1 and was charged the old higher mileage, they will probably go back to subtract more miles for PNR that was booked after midnight 2/3 with the old lower mileage from the old chart. UA has been famous in removing miles from MP member account since after the merger :-).
I think they'd struggle to do that and comply with the DOT rules. I know the 4-mile thing went against people, but these bookings showed the same price throughout the booking process and we're at sensible mileage levels.
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by JetAway
I guess I got in just under the wire. Booked LH F IAD/FRA next week for 67,500 miles about an hour ago.
I got lucky too! 7am PST changed a Intl itin from C to F when I saw two O seats open.....for 2015! WOW, I didn't even know there was a wire to get under, I figured it would happen tonight.

Originally Posted by lax2010
If UA will retroactively recredit miles for PNR that was booked after 2/1 and was charged the old higher mileage, they will probably go back to subtract more miles for PNR that was booked after midnight 2/3 with the old lower mileage from the old chart. UA has been famous in removing miles from MP member account since after the merger :-).
They are welcome to try, I have no miles left
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Madone59
They are welcome to try, I have no miles left
No worries, they will simply automatically charge your credit card on file 3.5 cents per miles plus tax.
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