Nov 1, 2013, 4:08 am
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New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)
Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html
Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
Questions and Answers
Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Additional details on changing tickets booked prior to 2/3/14 per UA Insider:
Full details are in post #2588 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22283437-post2588.html
Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Q: How will award pricing apply to mixed-carrier Saver Awards?
(reverted to J.Edward's rev)
New UA Award/Upgrade Chart (vs. Current Chart)
Changes took effect for travel booked starting February 3, 2014. See UA Insider's post linked here for more info about the date change. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22263212-post2366.html
Awards with *A partners now cost more than similar awards flown only on UA metal.
- F awards on partners went up 40-80%
- J awards on partners went up 20-40%
- F and J awards on UA metal (or mixed carriers where UA metal is in premium cabin followed by partner segment in lower class) as well some Y awards increased by 5-20% (US to Europe in F up 19%, US to Middle East in F up 20% for example)
See below for the round-trip increases on partner metal :
US ✈ Southern South America: +10,000 J, +5,000 F
US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F
US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F
US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F
US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F
RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Europe: +40,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Northern/Central/Southern Africa: +40,000 J, +110,000 F
US ✈ Middle East: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +130,000 F
US ✈ Central Asia/India: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ South Asia: +15,000 Y, +40,000 J, +120,000 F
US ✈ North Asia: +5,000 Y, +40,000 J, +100,000 F
US ✈ Japan: +5,000 Y, +30,000 J, +85,000 F
US ✈ Oceania: +30,000 J, +70,000 F
US ✈ Australia/New Zealand: +25,000 J, +100,000 F
RTW: +20,000 Y, +90,000 J, +100,000 F
Changes to upgrade policy for intra-Asia and northern South America flights
- Complimentary Premier Upgrades and instant upgrades are not applicable
- Regional Premier Upgrades (for any fare class) and Global Premier Upgrades (for flights booked in fare class Z, P, S, T, L, K, G or N) can no longer be requested on or after November 1, 2013
- There is no co-pay exemption for MileagePlus Upgrade Awards requested on or after November 1, 2013
- The above changes do not apply to Copa-operated flights.
Questions and Answers
Q: If I book an award in January 2014 and then make changes in February or beyond (in routing, airline, origin, destination, etc), will it be repriced according to new mileage requirements, or will I keep the old pricing on that ticket?
Our existing change process will apply. Changes to awards that require a change in date do not result in a change to the award price. Any other change will require an add/collect in miles and fees for changes or cancellations will still apply as per our existing policies.
Changes that will not trigger a re-price for itineraries ticketed before February 3, 2014 include:
- Date/time (cabin, region, and award type can't change)
- Carrier on one or more segments (cabin, region, and award type can’t change)
- Origin/Destination within the same regions (carrier and cabin can’t change)
Q: Do these rates apply for tickets purchased after Feb 3 or for travel after Feb 3? That is,if one purchases a ticket now, to fly on Mar 15, will that be new or old pricing?
Updated handling for mixed UA-Partner United/partner award itineraries: As we shared with the initial announcement, the Star Alliance/Partner partner award pricing will apply to Business or First awards for itineraries that include at least one flight segment operated by a MileagePlus partner carrier in Business or First.
However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.
- For example: IAD-FRA in United BusinessFirst connecting to FRA-FCO in Lufthansa Business, will be priced at the United mileage award amount.
- Note that this exception will not apply to a few specific regions and routings, such as intra-Africa connecting segments and certain fifth-freedom routes (e.g. BKK-KUL operated by Lufthansa)
Changes to MileagePlus Award and Upgrade Policies - Eff. 3-Feb-2014
Jan 31, 2014, 11:25 am
#2296
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is OS J cabin visible online? if so, is there ever availability VIE-IAD and at what booking window?
if not visible how's the best way to find it. i'm looking for November 2014 dates.
if not visible how's the best way to find it. i'm looking for November 2014 dates.
Jan 31, 2014, 11:28 am
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OS J isn't typically available until 3 months out from what I've been able to find in the past.
Jan 31, 2014, 11:31 am
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yeah i was poking around in February and saw that, thanks. bummer. i have SN J but into JFK which is a 10am departure from BRU. IAD was zeroed out. i want something that leaves later, or leaves from a city further east (planning to be in ATH).
Jan 31, 2014, 11:35 am
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Got the same story yesterday. Pushed for more information. She talked to her "lead," read up on it, and confirmed that date changes will not trigger re-pricing. She also said that different routing (so long as origin and destination remain the same) will not change pricing, but I am less certain about that.
I guess I should be content that I even was able to get LH F for a date 6 months from now (9 at the time of booking)
Jan 31, 2014, 11:37 am
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what about polish airways (LOT). i see J award availability on EF but it says premium economy class. anyone know what the business class award class is for LOT?
Jan 31, 2014, 11:38 am
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I booked RT tickets for 2 yesterday, DFW-FRA (LH-C), FRA-BKK (TG-F), BKK-SIN (TG-C), SIN-BKK (TG-C), BKK-FRA (TG-F), FRA-DFW (LH-C) for 140,000 miles/each. I got the confirmation numbers for LH & Thai. When I log in to LH, I couldn't select seats. I used to be able to do it before. Any ideas why I can't select seats now?
Jan 31, 2014, 11:42 am
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Check out TK. There's a ton of IST - IAD J availability in November and it's an a333
Jan 31, 2014, 11:43 am
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I booked RT tickets for 2 yesterday, DFW-FRA (LH-C), FRA-BKK (TG-F), BKK-SIN (TG-C), SIN-BKK (TG-C), BKK-FRA (TG-F), FRA-DFW (LH-C) for 140,000 miles/each. I got the confirmation numbers for LH & Thai. When I log in to LH, I couldn't select seats. I used to be able to do it before. Any ideas why I can't select seats now?
Jan 31, 2014, 11:45 am
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I booked RT tickets for 2 yesterday, DFW-FRA (LH-C), FRA-BKK (TG-F), BKK-SIN (TG-C), SIN-BKK (TG-C), BKK-FRA (TG-F), FRA-DFW (LH-C) for 140,000 miles/each. I got the confirmation numbers for LH & Thai. When I log in to LH, I couldn't select seats. I used to be able to do it before. Any ideas why I can't select seats now?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufth...nsa-com-2.html
Jan 31, 2014, 11:46 am
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Good point you bring up. What time zone do we use to determine when 2/1 is? Hawaii time? Alaska time? Chicago time?
I was checking on my awards and one leg downgraded to J. Of course if i find another F routing after today i have to buy miles to afford to make a change? (Im almost out)
I was checking on my awards and one leg downgraded to J. Of course if i find another F routing after today i have to buy miles to afford to make a change? (Im almost out)
Last edited by CDKing; Jan 31, 2014 at 11:52 am
Jan 31, 2014, 11:46 am
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Have anyone notice that United already change some awards before Feb 1st? Before Europe to US Mainland was 27500. Check last 2 days it is already changed to 30000. Guess United is being sneaky.
Jan 31, 2014, 11:53 am
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BRU-JFK on SN is fine except that it departs so early i have to go from ATH-BRU the evening before.
Jan 31, 2014, 12:01 pm
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My wife flew JFK-WAW on their 787 in C and didn't like it. Apparently the seats weren't great, the food was mediocre and the service terrible. Also you can't redeem UA miles for Premium Economy.
Jan 31, 2014, 12:03 pm
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nothing available around my needed date, IST-IAH was my first choice (trying to start as far east in Europe and end up as far west in USA as possible -- or get to east coast late just in time for the last flights to California).
BRU-JFK on SN is fine except that it departs so early i have to go from ATH-BRU the evening before.
BRU-JFK on SN is fine except that it departs so early i have to go from ATH-BRU the evening before.