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Old Feb 25, 2022, 9:47 am
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Rule 5 Cancellation of Reservations
  • In addition to exercising any of its remedies in Rule 6 K) below, UA reserves the right to cancel bookings and/or reservations which it deems fraudulent, abusive, illogical, fictitious, which are booked and/or reserved with no intention of flying, or for which the passenger makes a misrepresentation without notice to the passenger or the individual making the booking. The types of improper reservations that UA will cancel without notice include, but are not limited to: reservations made without having been requested by or on behalf of the named passenger; reservations made to hold or block seats for the purpose of obtaining lower fares, MP award inventory, travel certificates, or upgrades that may not otherwise be available; reservations made to manipulate, abuse, or circumvent any of UA’s fare rules, policies or provisions; reservations made for the same passenger on flights traveling on or about the same date between one or more of the same or nearby origin or destination cities; and reservations with connections that depart before the arrival on the inbound flight.
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Old Apr 20, 2023, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Stgermainparis
Booked an international award ticket with UA yesterday for son and today received an email saying it was canceled. No clue why. No agent available by phone or chat for 40 minutes. It’s not for a few months but why would they cancel? All UA metal.
Did it include partners like TK/ET/TG (basically all non-LH Group)? I'm guessing you had a warning that the ticket might take 24 hours and to check back. It sounds like the partner refused to accept the booking so United has no choice but to cancel it. All of your miles should be automatically refunded and any taxes refunded to your card. If this was an all UA booking then something went wrong and they can re-instate it.

We'll need more info like:
1. What flights were you booked on?
2. Was an actual e-ticket ever issued? Not the email saying "we are processing..." but the email that says "eTicket Itinerary and Receipt" and it has a 016xxxxxxx number for the ticket and appropriately lists all flights.

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Old Apr 20, 2023, 9:26 pm
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Resolved. But I want to update for future readers and to honor the replies that helped me sort this out. Okay so there indeed was an e-ticket issued bc I have the email and number. I had canceled another flight (occurring the day before) with a partner award on UA metal and apparently UA system wasn’t seeing that cancelation. So they thought it was a duplicate booking. The chat agent reinstated the new rez and said it would prob be canceled also bc of original rez/duplicate. However, after almost two hours on hold with booking airline, I think the duplicate is officially canceled. Got an email as such and see points redeposited. But geez that was stressful.
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Old Apr 20, 2023, 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Stgermainparis
Resolved. But I want to update for future readers and to honor the replies that helped me sort this out. Okay so there indeed was an e-ticket issued bc I have the email and number. I had canceled another flight (occurring the day before) with a partner award on UA metal and apparently UA system wasn’t seeing that cancelation. So they thought it was a duplicate booking. The chat agent reinstated the new rez and said it would prob be canceled also bc of original rez/duplicate. However, after almost two hours on hold with booking airline, I think the duplicate is officially canceled. Got an email as such and see points redeposited. But geez that was stressful.
Thanks for getting back with the outcome.

Very interesting how aggressive UA has gotten cancelling what they deem to be duplicate reservations.
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Old Apr 21, 2023, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by Stgermainparis
Booked an international award ticket with UA yesterday for son and today received an email saying it was canceled. No clue why. No agent available by phone or chat for 40 minutes. It’s not for a few months but why would they cancel? All UA metal.
Did you get a warning email about the duplicates prior to getting a cancellation email?

How far in advance of the desired flight was the cancellation?

Thanks.
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Old Apr 21, 2023, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by 747FC
Did you get a warning email about the duplicates prior to getting a cancellation email?

How far in advance of the desired flight was the cancellation?

Thanks.
No warning email or call. Cancellation email received exactly 24.5 hours after e-ticket email received (minutes after I’d booked it).

Took 50 minutes to get someone on the app chat. They saw the duplicate but reinstated the cancelled one and said it would get canceled again if other booking stayed in system. I believe other ticket is now out of system and see points from that partner reinstated, so hopefully this time the new booking will stick. I get the impression that something happens at the 24 hour mark re duplicates since right after 24 hours I got the email.

Desired flight in 3 months.
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Old May 19, 2023, 6:46 am
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Booked EWR-LHR roundtrip cash July outgoing; November return (flying with another airline in November from the US)


​​​​​​Booked DUB-EWR one-way award 1 day after LHR arrival in July (alternative transport from London to Dublin)


Got email notifications from UA on both reservations subject to cancellation. Called UA and agent added some notes.

Stop being so sensitive, UA, god damn it!
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Old May 19, 2023, 11:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
Booked EWR-LHR roundtrip cash July outgoing; November return (flying with another airline in November from the US)


​​​​​​Booked DUB-EWR one-way award 1 day after LHR arrival in July (alternative transport from London to Dublin)


Got email notifications from UA on both reservations subject to cancellation. Called UA and agent added some notes.

Stop being so sensitive, UA, god damn it!
Will be interested to hear if UA and its systems can keep their sensitivity down with notes in the PNR flight info or if the auto algorithms will keep on flagging the flights and autogenerating e-mails.

Good luck.

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Old May 20, 2023, 7:50 am
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United cancelled my DUB-EWR award ticket. Just sent an email to express my annoyance.
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Old May 20, 2023, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by DELee
Will be interested to hear if UA and its systems can keep their sensitivity down with notes in the PNR flight info or if the auto algorithms will keep on flagging the flights and autogenerating e-mails.
Originally Posted by Repooc17
United cancelled my DUB-EWR award ticket. Just sent an email to express my annoyance.
Algorithm: "Notes? What are notes? I don't see no notes! I don't gotta read your stinking notes!"
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Old May 20, 2023, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
United cancelled my DUB-EWR award ticket. Just sent an email to express my annoyance.
Are you asking to have DUB-EWR reinstated? I have to say, that seems like an insane degree of sensitivity for flagging "impossible" reservations.

Good luck.
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Old May 20, 2023, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by fumje
Are you asking to have DUB-EWR reinstated? I have to say, that seems like an insane degree of sensitivity for flagging "impossible" reservations.

Good luck.
Yep, asked for DUB-EWR to be reinstated.

EWR-LHR.(+1)
DUB-EWR (+2)

I actually have legitimate reason to be in London for 1 day only, and yes, departing from DUB is to save some $ (tax).
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Old May 20, 2023, 9:55 am
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Interesting thing happened to son this past week. Originally booked into EWR as final destination, but work changed plans and he needed to get to BNA by end of day. He would need to transfer between a UA hub from where he was coming from anyway, and purchasing a one-way from EWR-BNA was cheaper than changing his current ticket. So he simply kept the original PNR and booked the subsequent EWR-BNA flight about 2hrs from when he was going to land in EWR (no bags, etc.).

Anyway, flight into EWR went mechanical on tarmac and was delayed on the ground for quite some time. As soon as they inserted the new flight plan into the system- which was now going to pull into the gate 10 minutes or so after his EWR-BNA flight- he gets an email from UA cancelling his EWR-BNA ticket. Two separate reservations. He calls UA and asks why they simply cancelled his flight instead of rebooked. Said that they were different reservations so he wasn't protected (understandable). But that the system realized he wouldn't be able to make that second flight. He asked "what if I was never on the first flight?" and agent answered that he would've been in system as a no-show by then, etc.

They re-booked him on later BNA flight at no cost (I wonder if he got lucky here), but I found it interesting that the system was that advanced in recognizing two completely separate reservations by the same person AND the fact that he wasn't going to make the first one. Almost like they treated it as one PNR without the protections it is afforded.
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Old May 20, 2023, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
United cancelled my DUB-EWR award ticket. Just sent an email to express my annoyance.
Originally Posted by RNE
Algorithm: "Notes? What are notes? I don't see no notes! I don't gotta read your stinking notes!"
Yup. Algorithm. Apparently quite sensitive.

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Old May 21, 2023, 2:22 pm
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Emailed, nothing. Called, got the reservation reinstated. And again email cancellation warning message.

I am going to fly with someone else now. This is helpless.
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Old May 21, 2023, 2:47 pm
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There's plenty of *A airlines you can ticket it with, either revenue or award. Just use a different *A airline currency (miles) to book the flights. Book one with UA and other with another *A airline. Problem solved.
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