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Any Drawbacks from having MP account registered to foreign address?
#271
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MDE
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It would be pretty easy to search for members who had changed their addresses in the last year from US to non-US and who had no tickets that originated outside the US. That list could easily be examined to figure out the best audit candidates. Based on some of the other audits I've heard about UA performing of late I'd think this is quite likely to happen if lots of people 'move' simply for MP PQD purpses.
The airlines are required to confirm a return ticket when departing the USA, or the Costa Rican government can fine them (or so I've been told a million times). They always require that I prove I'm leaving when I fly in here, whether from the USA or any other country. That proof requires a ticket number if not on the same airline which I'm flying in.
As for Pre, I'm 100% since they tied it to GE. Sometimes my BP doesn't say Pre Check, but I still always get the 3 beeps. The surprise regular security line may come upon me one day, but thus far I've been quite lucky.
For those of us who prefer Copa, btw, they do NOT participate in Pre. It's the only downside to using them for flights to/from LA, but it's one I'm willing to tolerate as my tiny little bit of punishment for UA removing CPU/RPU availability from northern South America to USA flights. I have vowed not to fly UA to/from the USA, even when departing from Central America. Once there, it's different, but a whole lot of my annual revenue will now be going into Copa's pockets instead of UA's.
#274
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MDE
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#275
Join Date: Sep 2012
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I'm still unable to buy anything on united.com. Others have reported that they live outside the USA, but have CC billing addresses in the states and have no problem.
I talked to UA about this, and they advised me to delete all of my saved cards, then reenter them. I did that. A friend here also advised me to change my billing country in my profile to United States, and my preferred language as English. My billing preference was already U.S., but changing to English did result in my notices coming in my native English again.
Today I tried to buy a ticket, but the system once again tried to use my Costa Rican home address as my billing address. The agent with whom I spoke started the, "Try deleting your CC info..." line. I told her that I had already done that. She couldn't figure it out, booked my ticket and transferred me to tech support. They opened a ticket on it saying, "It should work."
I tried to FareLock a trip tonight for April, but it won't even let me do that. This is going to be a long year if I have to phone in every time I need to do anything. ::heavy sigh::
I talked to UA about this, and they advised me to delete all of my saved cards, then reenter them. I did that. A friend here also advised me to change my billing country in my profile to United States, and my preferred language as English. My billing preference was already U.S., but changing to English did result in my notices coming in my native English again.
Today I tried to buy a ticket, but the system once again tried to use my Costa Rican home address as my billing address. The agent with whom I spoke started the, "Try deleting your CC info..." line. I told her that I had already done that. She couldn't figure it out, booked my ticket and transferred me to tech support. They opened a ticket on it saying, "It should work."
I tried to FareLock a trip tonight for April, but it won't even let me do that. This is going to be a long year if I have to phone in every time I need to do anything. ::heavy sigh::
#276
Join Date: Dec 2006
Programs: United 1k aa exec plat
Posts: 1,861
one drawback i had,is compensation vouchers for overseas were given as 10% discounts rather than a $ value. dont know if that still is the case
#277
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: SUV
Programs: UA *G MM
Posts: 7,045
I have had zero problems over 3 years. Sometimes when I am in Japan and not logged in (or have been logged out is more likely) and quote a flight and get JPY and then proceed to payment it will bump me back to requote it in USD because of my billing address.
Why don't you just ensure that the correct billing address appears on the payment page?
I get promotional emails in both English and Japanese.
Also I have had TSA Pre from the early days even before I got Global Entry.
Why don't you just ensure that the correct billing address appears on the payment page?
I get promotional emails in both English and Japanese.
Also I have had TSA Pre from the early days even before I got Global Entry.
I'm still unable to buy anything on united.com. Others have reported that they live outside the USA, but have CC billing addresses in the states and have no problem.
I talked to UA about this, and they advised me to delete all of my saved cards, then reenter them. I did that. A friend here also advised me to change my billing country in my profile to United States, and my preferred language as English. My billing preference was already U.S., but changing to English did result in my notices coming in my native English again.
Today I tried to buy a ticket, but the system once again tried to use my Costa Rican home address as my billing address. The agent with whom I spoke started the, "Try deleting your CC info..." line. I told her that I had already done that. She couldn't figure it out, booked my ticket and transferred me to tech support. They opened a ticket on it saying, "It should work."
I tried to FareLock a trip tonight for April, but it won't even let me do that. This is going to be a long year if I have to phone in every time I need to do anything. ::heavy sigh::
I talked to UA about this, and they advised me to delete all of my saved cards, then reenter them. I did that. A friend here also advised me to change my billing country in my profile to United States, and my preferred language as English. My billing preference was already U.S., but changing to English did result in my notices coming in my native English again.
Today I tried to buy a ticket, but the system once again tried to use my Costa Rican home address as my billing address. The agent with whom I spoke started the, "Try deleting your CC info..." line. I told her that I had already done that. She couldn't figure it out, booked my ticket and transferred me to tech support. They opened a ticket on it saying, "It should work."
I tried to FareLock a trip tonight for April, but it won't even let me do that. This is going to be a long year if I have to phone in every time I need to do anything. ::heavy sigh::
#278
Join Date: May 2008
Location: worldwide
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 286
Changed my address to foreign address now but i still have US based credit cards and now i cant book online. when i try to purchase it says billing address is too long more than 35 characters plesse correct. but i am still using my US based address for billing. i had to call in three times to book so far.
#279
Join Date: Sep 2012
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I have had zero problems over 3 years. Sometimes when I am in Japan and not logged in (or have been logged out is more likely) and quote a flight and get JPY and then proceed to payment it will bump me back to requote it in USD because of my billing address.
Why don't you just ensure that the correct billing address appears on the payment page?
I get promotional emails in both English and Japanese.
Also I have had TSA Pre from the early days even before I got Global Entry.
Why don't you just ensure that the correct billing address appears on the payment page?
I get promotional emails in both English and Japanese.
Also I have had TSA Pre from the early days even before I got Global Entry.
Changed my address to foreign address now but i still have US based credit cards and now i cant book online. when i try to purchase it says billing address is too long more than 35 characters plesse correct. but i am still using my US based address for billing. i had to call in three times to book so far.
#280
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NYC
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Waiting until I get my 1K card in the mail to swap address. I already did a 24 hour test of my int'l address, and immediately 4 UA segment requirement, and PQD line item disappeared.
#281
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
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So do people think that UA will simply let people "move" this year without requiring any proof, moreover, let people book tickets with US-based billing addresses while "living" overseas ??
If so, whats the point of PQD if every one who wants to will circumvent the rules anyway...
If so, whats the point of PQD if every one who wants to will circumvent the rules anyway...
#282
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NYC
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Can't be any harder than what CBP asked me for during my Global Entry interview, which was a cable or utility bill listing the address. I could arrange that for my int'l address.
#283
Join Date: Sep 2012
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So do people think that UA will simply let people "move" this year without requiring any proof, moreover, let people book tickets with US-based billing addresses while "living" overseas ??
If so, whats the point of PQD if every one who wants to will circumvent the rules anyway...
If so, whats the point of PQD if every one who wants to will circumvent the rules anyway...
As big as this forum and others have become, they still represent a very small fraction of the overall FF numbers. As is often said, most people fly to get somewhere. Many probably don't even know about most of the recent changes to the M+ redemption rules, plans for removal of IFE and installation of satellite WiFi, qualification for Premier status requiring PQDs, etc.
I hope that this exclusive benefit of foreign residence isn't abused to the point that UA just eliminates it. If they want proof, that's easy. Any legitimate (and many illegitimate) foreign residents can provide that.
#285
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