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HB7 Jul 27, 2021 2:59 pm

The Daily Telegraph is also reporting that US and EU residents who are fully jabbed will skip quarantine, under plans to be approved tomorrow. Apparently people may also be able to transit via red-list countries without having to quarantine in a hotel (article isn't clear if this is just hotel quarantine or quarantine altogether):

It follows a trial by Heathrow, BA and Virgin which found the practical difficulties of verifying the vaccination status of travellers was overcome in 99 per cent of cases amid concerns over the complexities of different US states' paper and digital certificates. The results have been submitted to the Government.

Ministers are also expected to confirm that double vaccinated expats will be able to travel to the UK from amber countries without self-isolating. The current exemptions from quarantine for fully jabbed travellers from amber list countries only cover Britons who have been vaccinated by the NHS.

Ministers will also consider plans to allow travellers who transit through red list country hubs including Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Doha, Istanbul and Bahrain to avoid hotel quarantine provided they remain airside when they make their connections. At present, they are not exempt.

DaveS Jul 27, 2021 11:57 pm

The lead story on the BBC now:


Senior cabinet ministers are to discuss allowing fully vaccinated travellers from the EU and US to avoid quarantine when they arrive in England.

A review of the rules is due by 31 July - the second date in the Department for Transport's plan for a safe return to international travel.

Sources said the isolation exemption was likely to be discussed at the Covid Operations meeting on Wednesday.

But they said a decision on whether to proceed will not necessarily be taken.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57992929

S_W_S Jul 28, 2021 2:48 am

I just got the results of my antibody test back, and the result is positive with a value of ≥2500 U/ml.

Looking at the Testing for all page CWS linked that seems like a good result (not that it matters!).

DaveS Jul 28, 2021 3:04 am


Originally Posted by S_W_S (Post 33444028)
I just got the results of my antibody test back, and the result is positive with a value of ≥2500 U/ml.

Looking at the Testing for all page CWS linked that seems like a good result (not that it matters!).

Does this count as willy waving (mines bigger than yours)? ;)

KARFA Jul 28, 2021 3:15 am


Originally Posted by alex67500 (Post 33419378)
I had my second jab of Moderna yesterday morning, and I'd seen some strong reactions from others around me, but holy moley! Shivers, fever, aches everywhere... Paracetamol didn't really work. I guess it's a sign that my immune system has kicked in, but I wasn't expecting to be down for 12 hours like that. Should I report something, or is that expected since the guide already says it'll happen in more than 1 in 10 people?

​​​​​​PS: KARFA batch 3003608 ;)

just had my same and waiting to leave. same batch number as you. I haven’t planned much else for today!


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corporate-wage-slave Jul 28, 2021 5:24 am


Originally Posted by S_W_S (Post 33444028)
I just got the results of my antibody test back, and the result is positive with a value of ≥2500 U/ml.

Looking at the Testing for all page CWS linked that seems like a good result (not that it matters!).

It is indicative of you having had Covid about 4 to 6 months ago, then two vaccines. We still don't know if this is a good figure or not, but I would speculate that you won't be troubled by COVID-19 for a long time. It is in a literal sense off the scale.

DaveS Jul 28, 2021 6:21 am

BBC are reporting the re-opening decision is made:


Fully-jabbed US and EU travellers to be allowed quarantine-free travel to England

Ministers have decided that fully vaccinated travellers from the US and EU will be allowed to enter England without the need for quarantine, the BBC understands.

The Covid operations committee met this morning and full details of the decision will be released mid-afternoon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57999362

13901 Jul 28, 2021 6:29 am


Originally Posted by DaveS (Post 33444262)
BBC are reporting the re-opening decision is made:

Great to hear but He hasn't Tweeted yet...

corporate-wage-slave Jul 28, 2021 6:32 am


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 33444279)
Great to hear but He hasn't Tweeted yet...

Take that leak as being his alternative way of Tweeting within Collective Responsibility.

Internaut Jul 28, 2021 6:41 am

Will US and EU citizens who arrive, fully vaccinated, still need to take a PCR test after arrival? Or does this requirement apply to British citizens/residents only?

Dan1113 Jul 28, 2021 6:46 am


Originally Posted by Internaut (Post 33444311)
Will US and EU citizens who arrive, fully vaccinated, still need to take a PCR test after arrival? Or does this requirement apply to British citizens/residents only?

Test needed on day 2 is for all.

DaveS Jul 28, 2021 7:09 am


Originally Posted by Internaut (Post 33444311)
Will US and EU citizens who arrive, fully vaccinated, still need to take a PCR test after arrival? Or does this requirement apply to British citizens/residents only?

As Dan1113 rightly says, day 2 is expected to still be needed as is pre-departure. This is similar to many other countries, though handled less efficiently here.

Silver Fox Jul 28, 2021 8:12 am

Just to note that I drove past a pharmacy in Heston and they were queuing around the block to get their jabs. Looked a mix of ages from about 40 years downwards but the overwhelming majority was 20-somethings.

squawk Jul 28, 2021 8:19 am

The BBC report says this will come into effect on Monday (2nd Aug) at 4am.

Excellent news for those of us who live in Amber countries and would like to visit family.

Understandably, the information on GOV.UK isn't yet updated to reflect the latest changes.
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Now... the next question is: what is the most convenient/cost-effective way of procuring the required PCR tests? I assume this aspect isn't changing from the current system?

DaveS Jul 28, 2021 8:29 am


Originally Posted by squawk (Post 33444588)
The BBC report says this will come into effect on Monday (2nd Aug) at 4am.

Excellent news for those of us who live in Amber countries and would like to visit family.

Understandably, the information on GOV.UK isn't yet updated to reflect the latest changes.
​​​​​
Now... the next question is: what is the most convenient/cost-effective way of procuring the required PCR tests? I assume this aspect isn't changing from the current system?

No change it appears. It really does need a shake up as it is a bit of a mess.


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