Jun 19, 2018, 12:54 am
Last edit by: starflyergold
Please note that special rules apply to this thread given some of the recent arguments in this thread. I would like to draw your attention to the FT Rules, in particular about personal attacks, off topic and disruptive posts and discussing moderator action. From now on every rules violation in this thread will lead to immediate suspensions of posting privileges, no further warnings will be issued. These might be temporary or permanent. Should this not calm the situation down the thread will be closed down permanently.
starflyergold
TK forum moderator
starflyergold
TK forum moderator
Istanbul New Airport
Sep 24, 2018, 6:46 pm
#976
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ASIA
Programs: TK Elite, ALL Plus Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,530
Honestly, if we all know that it will most likely not open in time - then who cares.
Sedat Guzel came on here posting pictures of the progress which we from the outside would normally not have seen. I have enjoyed watching the progress through these pictures and by the look of things it will continue for some time more. But what's the purpose of bashing the messenger - does it really make you feel better? Enjoy the pictures for what they are. The airport will ultimately open one day.
Sedat Guzel came on here posting pictures of the progress which we from the outside would normally not have seen. I have enjoyed watching the progress through these pictures and by the look of things it will continue for some time more. But what's the purpose of bashing the messenger - does it really make you feel better? Enjoy the pictures for what they are. The airport will ultimately open one day.
Sep 25, 2018, 12:22 am
#977
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: ZRH / YUL
Programs: UA, TK, Starwood > Marriott, Hilton, Accor
Posts: 7,295
What I did not enjoy was the stubborn, facts-resistant, against-all-indications propaganda of "everything is perfect and will open on October 29" commentary that came with Sedat's pictures.
If, instead, Sedat had continued to just share progress pictures and said "doen't look so ready yet, we'll see when and how it will actually start full operations", none of the debate in this thread would have happened.
Sep 25, 2018, 12:41 am
#978
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,602
Sedat, we love you. Don't take personally the nonsense around this thread, just keep posting pictures please 
Sep 25, 2018, 12:59 am
#979
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: TK
Posts: 12
I agree with hflr and airoli. The reason most of us look at this website is so we can make informed decisions regarding air travel. Whilst we all appreciate the pictures provided by Sedat his posts contained the normal government propaganda that those of us who live in Turkey know only too well.
Sep 25, 2018, 1:04 am
#980
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ASIA
Programs: TK Elite, ALL Plus Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,530
I agree with hflr and airoli. The reason most of us look at this website is so we can make informed decisions regarding air travel. Whilst we all appreciate the pictures provided by Sedat his posts contained the normal government propaganda that those of us who live in Turkey know only too well.
Sep 25, 2018, 1:16 am
#981
Moderator, Turkish Airlines Miles&Smiles & Accor ALL
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: BRU
Programs: TK*G, Accor ALL Platinum
Posts: 7,592
Just my two cents: Most of us in this forum fly TK regularly and as such have an obvious interest in the new airport and in particular the operational implications for TK. That's why this thread is in the TK forum and NOT in the destinations forum (Europe). On the operational implications we have yet to hear any details. Not one word, a month out from the supposed opening date we know nothing. Many here have been through airport openings and these almost never go smoothly. The intersection of this project with the colourful Turkish political scene has always made things more complicated.
Pictures are all nice and well and I too appreciate them but they will not detract from the need to give passenger and potential passengers information (will I book a flight via IST when I have no idea how smooth my connection will work?). I know for a fact that large corporate customers have ordered TK to come in-house and explain what is actually going on and have warned them not to give a PR explanation but operational details.
Pictures are all nice and well and I too appreciate them but they will not detract from the need to give passenger and potential passengers information (will I book a flight via IST when I have no idea how smooth my connection will work?). I know for a fact that large corporate customers have ordered TK to come in-house and explain what is actually going on and have warned them not to give a PR explanation but operational details.
Last edited by starflyergold; Sep 25, 2018 at 2:02 am
Sep 25, 2018, 1:22 am
#982
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: TK
Posts: 12
That's fair enough but if someone has a vested interest they should at least declare that. It's like if a TK flight crew member posts that TK on board service is the best in the industry the fact that I might know they work for TK helps me put their post into context.
Sep 25, 2018, 2:23 am
#983
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Silver, VS Red, HH Gold, IHG Gold, Marriott Gold, SPG Basic, Alitalia Status Match
Posts: 1,173
I have a J flight scheduled out of IST in early January and another one next August. I'm hoping the January flight will remain at Ataturk and the August one will be out of the new airport (and that the lounge is completely finished by then 
).
And the lack of information from the airport or TK on this is disappointing, but I assume they're using the same consultants Marriott used for the recent merger with SPG, and particularly the travel package transition.
).And the lack of information from the airport or TK on this is disappointing, but I assume they're using the same consultants Marriott used for the recent merger with SPG, and particularly the travel package transition.
Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 am
#984
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 613
Just my two cents: Most of us in this forum fly TK regularly and as such have an obvious interest in the new airport and in particular the operational implications for TK. That's why this thread is in the TK forum and NOT in the destinations forum (Europe). On the operational implications we have yet to hear any details. Not one word, a month out from the supposed opening date we know nothing. Many here have been through airport openings and these almost never go smoothly. The intersection of this project with the colourful Turkish political scene has always made things more complicated.
Pictures are all nice and well and I too appreciate them but they will not detract from the need to give passenger and potential passengers information (will I book a flight via IST when I have no idea how smooth my connection will work?). I know for a fact that large corporate customers have ordered TK to come in-house and explain what is actually going on and have warned them not to give a PR explanation but operational details.
Pictures are all nice and well and I too appreciate them but they will not detract from the need to give passenger and potential passengers information (will I book a flight via IST when I have no idea how smooth my connection will work?). I know for a fact that large corporate customers have ordered TK to come in-house and explain what is actually going on and have warned them not to give a PR explanation but operational details.
I’m not a TK/ THY customer at all and my interest is more in architecture than in aviation.
The intention should be cleer for everybody.
Sep 25, 2018, 6:28 am
#986
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 96
Honestly, if we all know that it will most likely not open in time - then who cares.
Sedat Guzel came on here posting pictures of the progress which we from the outside would normally not have seen. I have enjoyed watching the progress through these pictures and by the look of things it will continue for some time more. But what's the purpose of bashing the messenger - does it really make you feel better? Enjoy the pictures for what they are. The airport will ultimately open one day.
Sedat Guzel came on here posting pictures of the progress which we from the outside would normally not have seen. I have enjoyed watching the progress through these pictures and by the look of things it will continue for some time more. But what's the purpose of bashing the messenger - does it really make you feel better? Enjoy the pictures for what they are. The airport will ultimately open one day.
Those are public images that Sedat spreads here without any permisson, infringing copyrights in probably every of his posts.
Sep 25, 2018, 11:10 am
#989
Moderator, Turkish Airlines Miles&Smiles & Accor ALL
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: BRU
Programs: TK*G, Accor ALL Platinum
Posts: 7,592
Unfortunately this thread will be permanently closed. What was supposed to be an informative thread about the new airport has progressively turned into a propaganda and counter propaganda exercise. Despite repeated warnings in thread and in the wiki the amount of FT rules violations have made it impossible to keep this thread open. If anyone wishes to discuss politics I highly recommend OMNI.
Once TK related operational information becomes available and the airport has opened a new thread will be created.
starflyergold
TK forum moderator
Once TK related operational information becomes available and the airport has opened a new thread will be created.
starflyergold
TK forum moderator
Last edited by starflyergold; Sep 25, 2018 at 11:58 am