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MasterGeek Mar 22, 2017 9:48 am

As a Canadian permanent resident (not US or Canadian citizen), is a NEXUS card enough to cross the border by land or air or for boarding a domestic or transborder flight ?

eigenvector Mar 22, 2017 10:29 am


Originally Posted by MasterGeek (Post 28071484)
As a Canadian permanent resident (not US or Canadian citizen), is a NEXUS card enough to cross the border by land or air or for boarding a domestic or transborder flight ?

Domestic flight in either country - yes
Anything else you mentioned - no

From CBSA:

Permanent residents of Canada who are members of the NEXUS or FAST programs must travel with a passport and proof of permanent residence, and may be asked to present these documents to the officer upon arrival at the border.
From CBP:

Residents (PR) of Canada who are landed immigrants need a passport and visa to enter the United States, unless they are a citizen of a country eligible for the Visa Waiver Program (VWP). If they are a citizen of a country eligible for the VWP, they are only required to have their valid passport - coming by land or sea. If coming by air, they will need to have advance approval to travel through the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA).

greglvnv Mar 22, 2017 3:29 pm

Do CBP officers at Canadian Pre-Clearance only ask you for your passport if you used it at the GE kiosk (as opposed to Nexus)? If that's the case, I think it would be a matter of consistency.

Also, can you use just your Nexus to obtain a boarding pass at a kiosk on a US-Canada flight (without having to have your passport scanned)?

Kiraly Mar 23, 2017 9:00 am


Originally Posted by greglvnv (Post 28073222)
Also, can you use just your Nexus to obtain a boarding pass at a kiosk on a US-Canada flight (without having to have your passport scanned)?

Ask the airline. If the airline says you need a passport, then you need it. What CBSA/CBP say you need and what the airlines say you need are two different things.

emcampbe Mar 23, 2017 9:04 am


Originally Posted by Kiraly (Post 28056136)
It is supposed to work that way, and all the rules from CBSA say so. But in reality it doesn't. Let's all hope they get that fixed soon.

I'm not convinced it is supposed to be that way. My strong suspicion is US privacy regulations prohibit sharing this info. with Canada unless specifically approved to do so by the member. I'd also guess submitting the application online you agree to this sharing, but not in general for the site, like when updating your passport. If this is the case, would require adding a disclaimer that you'd have to check before submitting update, or doing it as now, with a second, manual update for the Canadains.


Originally Posted by N1120A (Post 28070038)
AC is very good about taking NEXUS. With other carriers, YMMV. UA mostly gets it right, though I recently had a UA agent at DEN (British origin, so maybe overly security-statish) say they were told not to take them because of the new ETA in Canada. This makes no sense, given that the NEXUS card states your country of citizenship on it, and Americans don't require ETA.

Not my experience - UA has never taken them, IME, definitely at US stations, and at YYZ - both pre- and post- UA outsourcing its ground staff there.


Originally Posted by greglvnv (Post 28073222)
Do CBP officers at Canadian Pre-Clearance only ask you for your passport if you used it at the GE kiosk (as opposed to Nexus)? If that's the case, I think it would be a matter of consistency.

Also, can you use just your Nexus to obtain a boarding pass at a kiosk on a US-Canada flight (without having to have your passport scanned)?

CBP officers will ask for your passport if they want - shouldn't matter what ID you use at the kiosk. Typically, if you don't get an X/O, you will be waived through without being asked for anything. Typically, with an O (food declaration, get sent to booth but not necessarily secondary), I typically just get asked what I have, either from random or for declaring something), I've had officers ask just for my Nexus card or for my passport. My rule is to bring my passport no matter what, because if you're asked for your passport, you've already lost, no matter what the stated rule is.

As to your question about being able to scan your Nexus card, not in US stations for sure. At YYZ, the scanners at the check in kiosks are complete crap, and I can't even get it to scan my passport which works in every other kind of machine I've tried.

phltraveler Mar 23, 2017 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 28076184)
Not my experience - UA has never taken them, IME, definitely at US stations, and at YYZ - both pre- and post- UA outsourcing its ground staff there.

Same. Never had my GE or NEXUS card accepted by UA when flying from EWR, YVR, YUL, YYZ.


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 28076184)
CBP officers will ask for your passport if they want - shouldn't matter what ID you use at the kiosk. Typically, if you don't get an X/O, you will be waived through without being asked for anything. Typically, with an O (food declaration, get sent to booth but not necessarily secondary), I typically just get asked what I have, either from random or for declaring something), I've had officers ask just for my Nexus card or for my passport. My rule is to bring my passport no matter what, because if you're asked for your passport, you've already lost, no matter what the stated rule is.

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I always travel light and don't buy anything at my international destinations, so I've never gotten an O. With a "normal" receipt (no X or O) at US customs non-preclearance, I just hand the officer my receipt and have never been stopped (even when the GE photo caught me off guard and took a photo of the top of my head [looking down at the fingerprint scanner...)

When at preclearance in Canada they typically want my boarding pass and my passport, sometimes NEXUS card as well.

YVR: Both times I've been there they just asked how many bags I checked.
YUL: Typically more detailed questions on the nature of my visit, turning the monitor towards me to ask if the bag depicted on screen is mine.
YYZ: They've just asked to scan my boarding pass and then made sure that they had a photo of my bag. [One time UA didn't photograph my bag and I got sent back to international baggage handling #2 while United looked for my bag for 35 minutes... joy.] If you don't check luggage, my observation has been that an airport employee directs you past the booth and you just hand your GE receipt to the CBP Officer near the doors to the transborder gates.


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 28076184)
As to your question about being able to scan your Nexus card, not in US stations for sure. At YYZ, the scanners at the check in kiosks are complete crap, and I can't even get it to scan my passport which works in every other kind of machine I've tried.

Never tried it, UA has my passport saved from mobile app scan and I travel internationally enough where it doesn't "fall off" my profile. I just enter my MileagePlus account # when I get to the kiosk.

Rare Mar 23, 2017 10:02 pm


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 28076184)
UA has never taken them, IME, definitely at US stations...


Originally Posted by phltraveler (Post 28077734)
Same. Never had my GE or NEXUS card accepted by UA...

My NEXUS card was accepted at the gate by a UA agent in DEN in September.

Kiraly Mar 24, 2017 10:37 am


Originally Posted by Rare (Post 28079133)
My NEXUS card was accepted at the gate by a UA agent in DEN in September.

For a flight to Canada? Or within the US?

I_Can_Fly_US_Airways Mar 24, 2017 11:04 am

Great To Hear (-:
 

Originally Posted by eigenvector (Post 28068556)
Regarding declaration cards, got home to YVR last night and found the paper cards already phased out for NEXUS members. Declaration questions were on the kiosk and the receipt has been modified to remove the reference to presenting your declaration card at the exit. Asked two different CBSA officers who both agreed, no need to fill the card in any longer for NEXUS.

Got an email last week from GOES saying that this feature was coming, but not till April & only at certain airports (YVR not being mentioned as the 1st one BTW), so glad to hear this is now "live".

eigenvector Mar 24, 2017 11:29 am


Originally Posted by I_Can_Fly_US_Airways (Post 28081284)
Got an email last week from GOES saying that this feature was coming, but not till April & only at certain airports (YVR not being mentioned as the 1st one BTW), so glad to hear this is now "live".

Yeah, I was surprised and impressed to see a government program implemented ahead of schedule!

Rare Mar 24, 2017 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by Kiraly (Post 28081150)
For a flight to Canada? Or within the US?

To Canada. Sorry, thought that was clear from the context. I haven't had to show ID at the gate for a domestic flight in years.

seawolf Mar 24, 2017 10:31 pm

In the past several months, CBP have been doing 3-way checks of picture in kiosk receipt, passport and you. This includes YUL where they ask for passport even if you use NEXUS card at kiosk.

eigenvector Mar 24, 2017 10:48 pm


Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 28083591)
In the past several months, CBP have been doing 3-way checks of picture in kiosk receipt, passport and you. This includes YUL where they ask for passport even if you use NEXUS card at kiosk.

Since January 20, CBP has stamped my passport every time through YVR Preclearance. First time being stamped into the US since I got NEXUS.

1KChinito Mar 25, 2017 10:19 am


Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 28083591)
In the past several months, CBP have been doing 3-way checks of picture in kiosk receipt, passport and you. This includes YUL where they ask for passport even if you use NEXUS card at kiosk.

In today's uncertain environment, I would carry all documentations with me in case someone decides another form/documentation is required. It could be disastrous not being allowed in because of a new requirement.

flyerCO Mar 25, 2017 11:57 pm

I take both card and passport everywhere. This way if something happens to one I still have the other to get back. No needing to find the closest consulate and waiting.


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